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Since my current OEM rotors look like Ruffles potato chips, this is definitely well needed and past due.
I ordinarily do most of the maintenance and work on my cars myself and I have the knowledge and tools but I'm starting to realize my age is starting to get in the way of my capabilities (lol). And it's so freaking hot now in south Florida it's hard to find the motivation to voluntarily go sweat my nuggets off, so I'm bringing it to my indy shop later this week and they're going to swap everything out.
I'm looking forward to saying goodbye to brown wheels, and better looking zinc plated rotors doesn't hurt either.
Since my current OEM rotors look like Ruffles potato chips, this is definitely well needed and past due.
I ordinarily do most of the maintenance and work on my cars myself and I have the knowledge and tools but I'm starting to realize my age is starting to get in the way of my capabilities (lol). And it's so freaking hot now in south Florida it's hard to find the motivation to voluntarily go sweat my nuggets off, so I'm bringing it to my indy shop later this week and they're going to swap everything out.
I'm looking forward to saying goodbye to brown wheels, and better looking zinc plated rotors doesn't hurt either.
I'll post an update after installation.
Im excited to hear about this. If it all checks out with you, especially the brake dust, this will be next for me as I’m almost 20k miles on stock pads and rotors.
Im excited to hear about this. If it all checks out with you, especially the brake dust, this will be next for me as I’m almost 20k miles on stock pads and rotors.
Everyone I've seen on these forums who've swapped to the Z23 pads have reported it completely eliminates the brake dust issue (zero dust). So I'm pretty confident I'll see the same (yay).
My OEMs are so bad that I can leave my garage with a clean car and after a couple of hours of cruising, brown front wheels. Maybe they should just ship these cars with all brown wheels to begin with, lol.
E63 S AMG, CLS550 4matic, C63 Ed 507, Volvo XC90 T8s
So interesting to see your Powerstop drilled slotted rotors and Z23 pads. I have not replaced my E63 brakes as yet but I just got the exact same product as you for my non Mercedes convertible. I had my old rotors and pads swapped out about 3 weeks back with this new Powerstop stuff. I am pretty happy - moderate to minimal brake dust and good progressive pedal feel. Of all my 3 MBs, only the E63 has brake dust issues because I went aftermarket with pads and rotors for my other two MBs. Most decent after market brands do much better with brake dust vs MB OEM pads. There is a reason my E63 came with black wheels from the factory I suppose - it may be MB's solution to prevent people from going, "Ugh !" when their silver wheels look brown.
So interesting to see your Powerstop drilled slotted rotors and Z23 pads. I have not replaced my E63 brakes as yet but I just got the exact same product as you for my non Mercedes convertible. I had my old rotors and pads swapped out about 3 weeks back with this new Powerstop stuff. I am pretty happy - moderate to minimal brake dust and good progressive pedal feel. Of all my 3 MBs, only the E63 has brake dust issues because I went aftermarket with pads and rotors for my other two MBs. Most decent after market brands do much better with brake dust vs MB OEM pads. There is a reason my E63 came with black wheels from the factory I suppose - it may be MB's solution to prevent people from going, "Ugh !" when their silver wheels look brown.
I'm glad to hear you are happy with them too and have found the same as others that it pretty much eliminates the dust issues. They look great also! If that's the stock wheel, I didn't know Enkei was a wheel supplier for Lexus, cool. That's a good looking wheel design.
I have the black multispokes with silver accents:
But they still turn brown quickly. It probably wouldn't bother me as much if they turned brown equally from front to back, but the rears usually look fine and the fronts look like sacks of nutmeg have blown up in there, lol.
The new PowerStop rotors and pads are installed. Only took the shop a little over 2 hours to complete. Quicker than it would've taken me to do it, for sure.
The brakes are definitely MUCH better than what I had, but what I had were worn out and crappy so it's hard for me to compare to new OEM.
Even after the bedding process, which I did hard, I don't notice any more dust than was already there. I'll know for sure after living with them for a week or so.
I'm very satisfied with my choice. When stomped on, they bite hard. And I think they look great too. Now I wish I had more open wheels so they could be seen better!
The new PowerStop rotors and pads are installed. Only took the shop a little over 2 hours to complete. Quicker than it would've taken me to do it, for sure.
The brakes are definitely MUCH better than what I had, but what I had were worn out and crappy so it's hard for me to compare to new OEM.
Even after the bedding process, which I did hard, I don't notice any more dust than was already there. I'll know for sure after living with them for a week or so.
I'm very satisfied with my choice. When stomped on, they bite hard. And I think they look great too. Now I wish I had more open wheels so they could be seen better!
Some before and after pics:
BEFORE
AFTER
So, when you say you bedded them hard...do you mean fire and smoke hard?
I just changed our Expeditions brakes...there was billowing smoke after my last hard stop. Had a moment where I sped up thinking about putting a fire out...
So, when you say you bedded them hard...do you mean fire and smoke hard?
I just changed our Expeditions brakes...there was billowing smoke after my last hard stop. Had a moment where I sped up thinking about putting a fire out...
Probably a bit much I'm thinking.
Not that hard, just to the point where I could smell them so I knew I had some good heat in them. I followed the PS bed-in procedure exactly.
But I'm going to take it back out later tonight when there are less people getting in my way and do it on the highway cycling from 50/60 to 10/5 to the point where I'm getting some smoke then I should be good.
It is an experience to consider what you think if concerned your vehicle was on fire...
Yeah, no thanks, lol. There's definitely a fine line between smoke and fire, so caution, some restraint and awareness of all of your senses is crucial. I've never set one on fire... yet... knock on wood. :p
I'm on my second set of pads with powerstop. One thing on my e63 is that the pads are clunky on initial bite either in D or R. The zero dust is what keeps me coming back to these even though its annoying, its only for the first pedal press. Do you get these noise on yours?
I'm on my second set of pads with powerstop. One thing on my e63 is that the pads are clunky on initial bite either in D or R. The zero dust is what keeps me coming back to these even though its annoying, its only for the first pedal press. Do you get these noise on yours?
I haven't noticed that myself, so I assume mine are not doing that. (?)
The next time I go somewhere I'll specifically pay attention to that and report back.
I'm on my second set of pads with powerstop. One thing on my e63 is that the pads are clunky on initial bite either in D or R. The zero dust is what keeps me coming back to these even though its annoying, its only for the first pedal press. Do you get these noise on yours?
this is because there is sometimes a little bit of play in the installation of the brake pad. You can install shims and that will totally take care of the issue. I have this occasionally on my E63 and my Acura. It's a pretty common issue and it's not a concern at all. just get some shims installed
this is because there is sometimes a little bit of play in the installation of the brake pad. You can install shims and that will totally take care of the issue. I have this occasionally on my E63 and my Acura. It's a pretty common issue and it's not a concern at all. just get some shims installed
Ah, thanks Pete! Yes this happened on both my 212 and 213. Do you have a link by chance for the shims?
Ah, thanks Pete! Yes this happened on both my 212 and 213. Do you have a link by chance for the shims?
who installed them? If you installed them - contact the vendor that sold them to you and ask for specific shims for your pads and they'll link you to the correct product and indication - brake pad clicking/shifting due to excessive play
I'm on my second set of pads with powerstop. One thing on my e63 is that the pads are clunky on initial bite either in D or R. The zero dust is what keeps me coming back to these even though its annoying, its only for the first pedal press. Do you get these noise on yours?
After checking, I can confirm mine don't clunk or make any noises at all.
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