Considering used E63 S, what should I look out for?
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Considering used E63 S, what should I look out for?
I'm back in the market for a fast sedan, and I'm considering the W213 E63 S. Little about myself: I previously owned a stage 2 e85 RS3 (mid-high 10 second daily), I drive very little now (~4k miles/yr), and I'd rather dump my money in a bigger boat than massive depreciation on a brand new luxury performance car I don't drive all that often. My biggest concern is what gremlins are common on these vehicles and what should I be looking for? Whatever I buy, I'll be taking to a MB dealership for a pre-purchase inspection fyi. Thanks 
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if budget allows, look for MY2021 onwards ... seems to have fewer issues than MY2018-2020. Whatever you buy, better consider having extended warranty as well.
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The W213 E63 has proven to be a solid and reliable car. One somewhat common and crucial issue is the rear main engine seal failing, which is an expensive repair.
How prevalent the issue is hard to determine since there is no reliable data to go by.
It seems the RMS failure may be caused by the oil separators becoming more restrictive over time leading to positive crankcase pressure and compromising the RMS.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-rms-leak.html
Otherwise, it's an amazingly awesome and capable car.
How prevalent the issue is hard to determine since there is no reliable data to go by.
It seems the RMS failure may be caused by the oil separators becoming more restrictive over time leading to positive crankcase pressure and compromising the RMS.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-rms-leak.html
Otherwise, it's an amazingly awesome and capable car.
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2023 E63S AMG - Grey Magno
I may have one for sale in a month or two if you don't find one
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I was just joking with him. This thing is turning out to be a nightmare. Local body shops aren't giving me any kind of confidence on getting the paint matched correctly. Some refuse to even touch it. I'll have to take it out of state about 350 miles each way to an authorized MB dealership who say they can fix it to be perfect. I guess we'll see what happens
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I was just joking with him. This thing is turning out to be a nightmare. Local body shops aren't giving me any kind of confidence on getting the paint matched correctly. Some refuse to even touch it. I'll have to take it out of state about 350 miles each way to an authorized MB dealership who say they can fix it to be perfect. I guess we'll see what happens
Sad story for sure. I'm sure hoping for the best for you man.
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As others have stated, RMS issue is very common on these vehicles, we have had this repair covered for our E63 S Fidelity extended warranty customers, the repair is about $10K at the dealership.
You can feed me a couple listings you'd like to see extended warranty coverage information for at my contact information below, repairs accepted at all Mercedes-Benz dealerships and licensed independents in the US/Canada.
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You can feed me a couple listings you'd like to see extended warranty coverage information for at my contact information below, repairs accepted at all Mercedes-Benz dealerships and licensed independents in the US/Canada.
Trenton O. Gibson
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
1. RMS and oil separators
2. 2018's had issues with injectors/CEL - some of these were lemoned
3. exhaust flap fail causing low boost
4. trans overheating (rare)
5. Bad coils/plugs by 30-50k miles (coils are hard to find or pay premium)
6. Inner tire wear common due to stance and geometry of suspension
7. Bad main battery can caused lots of random gremlins - make sure battery is healthy
8. paint peeling or clear coat peeling on calipers
9. loud clicking left bay of engine - bad purge valve
10. vibration while at idle or brake applied in drive at a standstill (axle issues)
11. loud brakes ... squealing - usually due to not driving enough or hard enough braking
12. Was the car tuned - do you care? Maybe you should
13. Some cars had poor fitment of exterior trim pieces
14. Brakes/parts and install from dealer expensive but much cheaper and reasonable aftermarket and with indy or personal garage install
15. Know about the spare tire and tools
16. know about CarPlay wireless limitations and screen size limitations
17. know the difference between sport and active seats - read up
2. 2018's had issues with injectors/CEL - some of these were lemoned
3. exhaust flap fail causing low boost
4. trans overheating (rare)
5. Bad coils/plugs by 30-50k miles (coils are hard to find or pay premium)
6. Inner tire wear common due to stance and geometry of suspension
7. Bad main battery can caused lots of random gremlins - make sure battery is healthy
8. paint peeling or clear coat peeling on calipers
9. loud clicking left bay of engine - bad purge valve
10. vibration while at idle or brake applied in drive at a standstill (axle issues)
11. loud brakes ... squealing - usually due to not driving enough or hard enough braking
12. Was the car tuned - do you care? Maybe you should
13. Some cars had poor fitment of exterior trim pieces
14. Brakes/parts and install from dealer expensive but much cheaper and reasonable aftermarket and with indy or personal garage install
15. Know about the spare tire and tools
16. know about CarPlay wireless limitations and screen size limitations
17. know the difference between sport and active seats - read up
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this past weekend , I was at a MB dealership to test drive a C43
they had a 2023 E63 with 10 k miles , not final edition, and the price listed was 148 k . MSRP on that car was 135 k
apparently dealers are asking premium because of V8
I don't know if this is true across the board
these cars are great but not worth that kind of money for a used example
I will consider looking at F90 M5 , 2023 around 105 k, much better value
if there is a hype over the V8 at this time , you might risk significant depreciation if the hype dies .
BTW just picked up a 2024 RS3 as a second DD , and I love the little thing . Feels light, nimble , and handles fairly well. C43 was better than expected but did not feel special, though the interior was nice quality
they had a 2023 E63 with 10 k miles , not final edition, and the price listed was 148 k . MSRP on that car was 135 k
apparently dealers are asking premium because of V8
I don't know if this is true across the board
these cars are great but not worth that kind of money for a used example
I will consider looking at F90 M5 , 2023 around 105 k, much better value
if there is a hype over the V8 at this time , you might risk significant depreciation if the hype dies .
BTW just picked up a 2024 RS3 as a second DD , and I love the little thing . Feels light, nimble , and handles fairly well. C43 was better than expected but did not feel special, though the interior was nice quality
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