Vogtland in, Brabus out...
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2002 C230 : 2007 C230
Originally Posted by SoCalCLK
Nice photos. Why the switch from Brabus to Vogtland?
Also, how do you like the ride with the Koni springs?
Also, how do you like the ride with the Koni springs?
I switched to Vogtland because I think they make better springs. Notice in the pics above, the Vogtland has less coils than the Brabus, but are the same length. This gives you a lighter, stiffer spring with more available travel.
I think the Koni adjustables are the best choice for any aftermarket spring. They allow you to dial in the ride just the way you want it. Even at full stiff, there is no harshness.
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2017 W205 C43 AMG
The C43 Springs look crude and bulky next to the Brabus.
I know what you mean about the coil amount. While my Brabus springs feel totally stable and smooth at high speeds (100+ mph), which is unbelievable!
However, at low speeds, with heavy stop and go braking, the CLK tends to have a lot of brake squat and "nose dive" which I do not like. Have you experienced the same with your Brabus?
I know what you mean about the coil amount. While my Brabus springs feel totally stable and smooth at high speeds (100+ mph), which is unbelievable!
However, at low speeds, with heavy stop and go braking, the CLK tends to have a lot of brake squat and "nose dive" which I do not like. Have you experienced the same with your Brabus?
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C230 Sport Coup + 2006 W164 ML350 + 99 Ford Escort RIP
Up to your old tricks eh Kwik? 
he he
Pushing them purple springs still ?
I liked the pics of the factory the most...
Ha. I broke my vow of silence after only 3 months....
but my reasons are as Frank Zappa would say,
"strictly commercial". Selling some rims in the classified.
I'll say no more.
PS. Get any tools donated yet?
BTW, got my sunroof replaced....again.
he he
Pushing them purple springs still ?
I liked the pics of the factory the most...
Ha. I broke my vow of silence after only 3 months....
but my reasons are as Frank Zappa would say,
"strictly commercial". Selling some rims in the classified.
I'll say no more.
PS. Get any tools donated yet?
BTW, got my sunroof replaced....again.
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Originally Posted by Ashkan's C280
less coils the better?
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Originally Posted by Ashkan's C280
so which is better for you brabus or amg???
I would call it a tie. Brabus has the better drop, but the taller AMG springs obviously have better travel. Stiffness is about equal.
Originally Posted by Ashkan's C280
so which is better for you brabus or amg???
I would call it a tie. Brabus has the better drop, but the taller AMG springs obviously have better travel. Stiffness is about equal.
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Originally Posted by Ashkan's C280
you go against what you say first you say taller is better then shorter?
shorter is better if you want to lower center of gravity and/or get that dropped look, but...
with equal number of coils & wire diameter, the longer spring would have more travel.
what is better depends on what you want...and what other components you have...
what do you want?
The only real way to get the right spring/shock combo for your taste is to try all the combinations...
so start buying & swapping...
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Originally Posted by KWiK
no...not at all
shorter is better if you want to lower center of gravity and/or get that dropped look, but...
with equal number of coils & wire diameter, the longer spring would have more travel.
what is better depends on what you want...and what other components you have...
what do you want?
The only real way to get the right spring/shock combo for your taste is to try all the combinations...
so start buying & swapping...
shorter is better if you want to lower center of gravity and/or get that dropped look, but...
with equal number of coils & wire diameter, the longer spring would have more travel.
what is better depends on what you want...and what other components you have...
what do you want?
The only real way to get the right spring/shock combo for your taste is to try all the combinations...
so start buying & swapping...
Thanks for the picks.
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Vogtland DIY
Hi Kwik,
Thanks for the picks of your springs!
I am new to this forum.
Is it very difficult to DIY springs? I like what I read about Vogtlands and it seems pretty straight forward.
Next questions is, do I need to change anything else to lower my car?
Do I have to change the shocks at the same time?
I keep reading about #2 and #4 pads but I have no idea what that means.
Thanks for taking the time.
Peter
Thanks for the picks of your springs!
I am new to this forum.
Is it very difficult to DIY springs? I like what I read about Vogtlands and it seems pretty straight forward.
Next questions is, do I need to change anything else to lower my car?
Do I have to change the shocks at the same time?
I keep reading about #2 and #4 pads but I have no idea what that means.
Thanks for taking the time.
Peter
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99CLK320,
This is not a for sale issue and don't mean to highjack your thread but I would like to get some feedback/discussion on inside tire wear due to negative camber after lowering. I have a set of Vogtlands to install and a rear camber kit (engineered by ghostrider on the w208 board)to dial the camber back in on the rear. Also: I found a front lower inside control arm bolt made by MB that allows camber adjustment on the front. The front bolt thingie doesn't allow for much adjustment so if your car is really slammed you probably need the Kmark camber kit.
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99CLK320,
Pads: I know with the 208 and the 211 there are 5 different thicknesses of rubber pads that top the springs. The total difference between the thinnest #1 and the thickest #5 is .67 mm. Some people take them complete out and gain and little extra drop. I don't have the link to the thread on the 208 board but go over there and do a search. There has been an endless discussion on the topic. On Kwik's first post, fourth picture, there is a rubber pad on the inside of the top of the spring housing.
And by the way, cool spring compressor. Why didn't you use it on the rears? TIA, dlb
And by the way, cool spring compressor. Why didn't you use it on the rears? TIA, dlb
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