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TECH answers re lights.
So far no answer to this. How do we activate "cornering lights" in Xenons on ML. Can this be done? Previous post states that an empty bulb socket is in the lamp assembly. Cannot see that in mine.
Glad to get positive answer from any source.
Glad to get positive answer from any source.
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If you have the Xenons, the headlights will follow the position of the steering wheel when the headlight switch is in the Auto position. This is from page 125 of the 2014 Owners Manual:
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MB did not put that option on our vehicle in NA...discussed in depth prior..bottom line..there isn't any
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If you search diligently enough, I think you will find the thread. Good luck!
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I am reasonably certain that I saw a thread about this very issue somewhere on the forum when I was searching the Bixenon lighting package. Apparently there is a disconnect from what the manual says compared to how the vehicle is actually equipped. From what I gleaned, cornering lights are only on the European variant. They don't exist on U.S. vehicles, ostensibly because they are non DOT compliant.
If you search diligently enough, I think you will find the thread. Good luck!
If you search diligently enough, I think you will find the thread. Good luck!
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My Cornering Lights
I am reasonably certain that I saw a thread about this very issue somewhere on the forum when I was searching the Bixenon lighting package. Apparently there is a disconnect from what the manual says compared to how the vehicle is actually equipped. From what I gleaned, cornering lights are only on the European variant. They don't exist on U.S. vehicles, ostensibly because they are non DOT compliant.
If you search diligently enough, I think you will find the thread. Good luck!
If you search diligently enough, I think you will find the thread. Good luck!
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Why No Cornering Lights ?
I asked a good friend of mine who is very knowledgeable about automotive lighting. Follows is my question and his response.
Me - "Do you have any idea why MB would have removed the cornering
lights from the 2014 & 2015 M-Class?"
Response - Probably same reason they put red rear turn signals on the US/Canada market: it costs less that way, and better equipment (+cornering lights, +yellow rear turn signals) are merely _permitted_, not required. Contrary to popular belief, even premium carmakers actively pursue cost reduction wherever they feel they can get away with it in a given market. Considering just about every market outside the US now permits truly adaptive headlamps (glare-free high beam/adaptive driving beam), cornering lamps are superfluous. It would not be the first time DB have said "Fine, if the Americans are going to be this stupid and backward about their lighting regulations, they're welcome to stupid and backward lighting".
(I'm sorta curious why the red rear turn signals don't grind your gears...they're demonstrably less safe than proper yellow ones the rest of the world requires).
Me - "Do you have any idea why MB would have removed the cornering
lights from the 2014 & 2015 M-Class?"
Response - Probably same reason they put red rear turn signals on the US/Canada market: it costs less that way, and better equipment (+cornering lights, +yellow rear turn signals) are merely _permitted_, not required. Contrary to popular belief, even premium carmakers actively pursue cost reduction wherever they feel they can get away with it in a given market. Considering just about every market outside the US now permits truly adaptive headlamps (glare-free high beam/adaptive driving beam), cornering lamps are superfluous. It would not be the first time DB have said "Fine, if the Americans are going to be this stupid and backward about their lighting regulations, they're welcome to stupid and backward lighting".
(I'm sorta curious why the red rear turn signals don't grind your gears...they're demonstrably less safe than proper yellow ones the rest of the world requires).
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I asked a good friend of mine who is very knowledgeable about automotive lighting. Follows is my question and his response.
Me - "Do you have any idea why MB would have removed the cornering
lights from the 2014 & 2015 M-Class?"
Response - Probably same reason they put red rear turn signals on the US/Canada market: it costs less that way, and better equipment (+cornering lights, +yellow rear turn signals) are merely _permitted_, not required. Contrary to popular belief, even premium carmakers actively pursue cost reduction wherever they feel they can get away with it in a given market. Considering just about every market outside the US now permits truly adaptive headlamps (glare-free high beam/adaptive driving beam), cornering lamps are superfluous. It would not be the first time DB have said "Fine, if the Americans are going to be this stupid and backward about their lighting regulations, they're welcome to stupid and backward lighting".
(I'm sorta curious why the red rear turn signals don't grind your gears...they're demonstrably less safe than proper yellow ones the rest of the world requires).
Me - "Do you have any idea why MB would have removed the cornering
lights from the 2014 & 2015 M-Class?"
Response - Probably same reason they put red rear turn signals on the US/Canada market: it costs less that way, and better equipment (+cornering lights, +yellow rear turn signals) are merely _permitted_, not required. Contrary to popular belief, even premium carmakers actively pursue cost reduction wherever they feel they can get away with it in a given market. Considering just about every market outside the US now permits truly adaptive headlamps (glare-free high beam/adaptive driving beam), cornering lamps are superfluous. It would not be the first time DB have said "Fine, if the Americans are going to be this stupid and backward about their lighting regulations, they're welcome to stupid and backward lighting".
(I'm sorta curious why the red rear turn signals don't grind your gears...they're demonstrably less safe than proper yellow ones the rest of the world requires).
I stand by this system failing some regulator test for light scatter..
I would agree that the ils hid's throws a good amount of light out to the side .
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Nah, sounds plausible but the GLK has them with the ILS. The ils in the new w166 2012-2013 on has the hardware (the reflector, bulb holder and I would assume the wiring harness) but it's not active...so it's de-featured just to save a pair of bulbs? I've seen a video from a canadian c63 that does have them.
I stand by this system failing some regulator test for light scatter..
I would agree that the ils hid's throws a good amount of light out to the side .
I stand by this system failing some regulator test for light scatter..
I would agree that the ils hid's throws a good amount of light out to the side .
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The thinking in the US years ago when yellow light bulbs were phased into the US Market was that forward facing bulbs would be Amber and rearward facing bulbs would be red. The same was true for side marker lamps. That way even from some distance away in dark night conditions, you could look at the lights and know if an intersecting car was going slowly from right to left or vice versa, and whether it was approaching or departing from you.
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