M-Class (W166) Produced 2012-2015

NEED AN MB TECH

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jan 2, 2015 | 04:29 PM
  #1  
greasykid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 831
Likes: 13
From: N.C. USA
2015, ML250 BlueTEC
NEED AN MB TECH

If you are an MB TECH pls pm me. Just a quick question. Thx.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2015 | 09:17 PM
  #2  
DUTCH's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 35
From: Atlanta, GA USA
2000 MB G500 NMLE, 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI Prestige
Originally Posted by greasykid
If you are an MB TECH pls pm me. Just a quick question. Thx.
I'd be willing to bet you can get as good or better answer to your question on one of the forums as compared to a MB tech. However, it's your choice.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 10:04 AM
  #3  
greasykid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 831
Likes: 13
From: N.C. USA
2015, ML250 BlueTEC
TECH answers re lights.

So far no answer to this. How do we activate "cornering lights" in Xenons on ML. Can this be done? Previous post states that an empty bulb socket is in the lamp assembly. Cannot see that in mine.
Glad to get positive answer from any source.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 10:10 AM
  #4  
DUTCH's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 35
From: Atlanta, GA USA
2000 MB G500 NMLE, 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI Prestige
Originally Posted by greasykid
So far no answer to this. How do we activate "cornering lights" in Xenons on ML. Can this be done? Previous post states that an empty bulb socket is in the lamp assembly. Cannot see that in mine.
Glad to get positive answer from any source.
If you have the Xenons, the headlights will follow the position of the steering wheel when the headlight switch is in the Auto position. This is from page 125 of the 2014 Owners Manual:
Attached Thumbnails NEED AN MB TECH-image1.jpg  

Last edited by DUTCH; Jan 3, 2015 at 10:36 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 10:29 AM
  #5  
greasykid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 831
Likes: 13
From: N.C. USA
2015, ML250 BlueTEC
Xenons

Understand. Looking for CORNERING LIGHTS.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 10:37 AM
  #6  
DUTCH's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 35
From: Atlanta, GA USA
2000 MB G500 NMLE, 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI Prestige
Originally Posted by greasykid
Understand. Looking for CORNERING LIGHTS.
That's what I was describing. See the image added to my edited message above, specifically the upper right corner.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 12:03 PM
  #7  
greasykid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 831
Likes: 13
From: N.C. USA
2015, ML250 BlueTEC
More Cornering Lights

Whatever you say. All I know is that my Lighting Package has NO cornering lights.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 01:24 PM
  #8  
Nanook's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,267
Likes: 56
From: Alberta, Canada
'18 GLE63S AMG /'19 PORSCHE TURBO S / '09 CORVETTE ZR1 /'14 LEXUS RX350/'16 RAV4 Ltd
MB did not put that option on our vehicle in NA...discussed in depth prior..bottom line..there isn't any
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 01:26 PM
  #9  
Bruce_Benz's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Central Virginia
ML 350
Originally Posted by greasykid
Whatever you say. All I know is that my Lighting Package has NO cornering lights.
I am reasonably certain that I saw a thread about this very issue somewhere on the forum when I was searching the Bixenon lighting package. Apparently there is a disconnect from what the manual says compared to how the vehicle is actually equipped. From what I gleaned, cornering lights are only on the European variant. They don't exist on U.S. vehicles, ostensibly because they are non DOT compliant.

If you search diligently enough, I think you will find the thread. Good luck!
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 01:28 PM
  #10  
Nanook's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,267
Likes: 56
From: Alberta, Canada
'18 GLE63S AMG /'19 PORSCHE TURBO S / '09 CORVETTE ZR1 /'14 LEXUS RX350/'16 RAV4 Ltd
beat you by 2 mins
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 01:57 PM
  #11  
Bruce_Benz's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Central Virginia
ML 350
Originally Posted by Nanook
beat you by 2 mins
Touché
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2015 | 03:25 AM
  #12  
MLee's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 141
Likes: 3
From: Land of OZ- Mornington Peninsula
ML350 BT soon......pleeeease. GOT IT NOW....Wooooo
Move to Australia mate.......we gottem........
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2015 | 04:26 AM
  #13  
jtorrebl's Avatar
Super Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 714
Likes: 10
From: Los Angeles
2025 Panamera GTS
Originally Posted by Bruce_Benz
I am reasonably certain that I saw a thread about this very issue somewhere on the forum when I was searching the Bixenon lighting package. Apparently there is a disconnect from what the manual says compared to how the vehicle is actually equipped. From what I gleaned, cornering lights are only on the European variant. They don't exist on U.S. vehicles, ostensibly because they are non DOT compliant.

If you search diligently enough, I think you will find the thread. Good luck!
My 2012 a6 with leds had them. My dads 2014 and 2012 s class had them. So not being dot compliant doesn't make sense to me. Looking at the housing it looks like it could hold an led cornering light but not sure. Also not sure that it's not there either.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2015 | 10:10 AM
  #14  
greasykid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 831
Likes: 13
From: N.C. USA
2015, ML250 BlueTEC
My Cornering Lights

Originally Posted by Bruce_Benz
I am reasonably certain that I saw a thread about this very issue somewhere on the forum when I was searching the Bixenon lighting package. Apparently there is a disconnect from what the manual says compared to how the vehicle is actually equipped. From what I gleaned, cornering lights are only on the European variant. They don't exist on U.S. vehicles, ostensibly because they are non DOT compliant.

If you search diligently enough, I think you will find the thread. Good luck!
Have had them on 5 previous MB's including the 2013 GLK350 & 2014 C350 Coupe I just traded. Sometimes I cannot follow MB's logic(?). I finally got folding mirrors but lost cornering lights. END OF STORY.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:31 AM
  #15  
Barry45RPM's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,017
Likes: 16
From: Ft. Lauderdale Area, USA
2015 ML 350
Originally Posted by MLee
Move to Australia mate.......we gottem........
Ah... but your steering wheel's on the wrong side.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2015 | 03:55 AM
  #16  
swatty's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 95
Likes: 4
From: Sydney, Australia
220SE Coupe, ML250, E320
Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
Ah... but your steering wheel's on the wrong side.
No, it's on the right side
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2015 | 04:44 AM
  #17  
MLee's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 141
Likes: 3
From: Land of OZ- Mornington Peninsula
ML350 BT soon......pleeeease. GOT IT NOW....Wooooo
Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
Ah... but your steering wheel's on the wrong side.
And the battery is under the drivers seat.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2015 | 09:18 AM
  #18  
schorert1's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 355
Likes: 2
2013 ML 550, CLK63 AMG, 2012 E350 4MATIC
Originally Posted by DUTCH
That's what I was describing. See the image added to my edited message above, specifically the upper right corner.
That's exactly the issue, they're detailed in the manual but they are not active on your NA ML.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 06:15 PM
  #19  
DUTCH's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 35
From: Atlanta, GA USA
2000 MB G500 NMLE, 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI Prestige
Why No Cornering Lights ?

I asked a good friend of mine who is very knowledgeable about automotive lighting. Follows is my question and his response.

Me - "Do you have any idea why MB would have removed the cornering
lights from the 2014 & 2015 M-Class?"

Response - Probably same reason they put red rear turn signals on the US/Canada market: it costs less that way, and better equipment (+cornering lights, +yellow rear turn signals) are merely _permitted_, not required. Contrary to popular belief, even premium carmakers actively pursue cost reduction wherever they feel they can get away with it in a given market. Considering just about every market outside the US now permits truly adaptive headlamps (glare-free high beam/adaptive driving beam), cornering lamps are superfluous. It would not be the first time DB have said "Fine, if the Americans are going to be this stupid and backward about their lighting regulations, they're welcome to stupid and backward lighting".

(I'm sorta curious why the red rear turn signals don't grind your gears...they're demonstrably less safe than proper yellow ones the rest of the world requires).
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 06:43 PM
  #20  
schorert1's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 355
Likes: 2
2013 ML 550, CLK63 AMG, 2012 E350 4MATIC
Originally Posted by DUTCH
I asked a good friend of mine who is very knowledgeable about automotive lighting. Follows is my question and his response.

Me - "Do you have any idea why MB would have removed the cornering
lights from the 2014 & 2015 M-Class?"

Response - Probably same reason they put red rear turn signals on the US/Canada market: it costs less that way, and better equipment (+cornering lights, +yellow rear turn signals) are merely _permitted_, not required. Contrary to popular belief, even premium carmakers actively pursue cost reduction wherever they feel they can get away with it in a given market. Considering just about every market outside the US now permits truly adaptive headlamps (glare-free high beam/adaptive driving beam), cornering lamps are superfluous. It would not be the first time DB have said "Fine, if the Americans are going to be this stupid and backward about their lighting regulations, they're welcome to stupid and backward lighting".

(I'm sorta curious why the red rear turn signals don't grind your gears...they're demonstrably less safe than proper yellow ones the rest of the world requires).
Nah, sounds plausible but the GLK has them with the ILS. The ils in the new w166 2012-2013 on has the hardware (the reflector, bulb holder and I would assume the wiring harness) but it's not active...so it's de-featured just to save a pair of bulbs? I've seen a video from a canadian c63 that does have them.
I stand by this system failing some regulator test for light scatter..

I would agree that the ils hid's throws a good amount of light out to the side .
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2015 | 10:55 PM
  #21  
Hoplatani's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Ml350 bluetech
Pffft

Originally Posted by DUTCH
That's what I was describing. See the image added to my edited message above, specifically the upper right corner.
I think he knows his car better than you!!
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2015 | 10:58 PM
  #22  
Hoplatani's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Ml350 bluetech
Don't loose your precious time

Originally Posted by schorert1
Nah, sounds plausible but the GLK has them with the ILS. The ils in the new w166 2012-2013 on has the hardware (the reflector, bulb holder and I would assume the wiring harness) but it's not active...so it's de-featured just to save a pair of bulbs? I've seen a video from a canadian c63 that does have them.
I stand by this system failing some regulator test for light scatter..

I would agree that the ils hid's throws a good amount of light out to the side .
Mr''il ow everything'' is not gonna understand what you mean by your answer, you are right, my brother in law has them in his 2013 in his C serie
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2015 | 09:18 AM
  #23  
Barry45RPM's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,017
Likes: 16
From: Ft. Lauderdale Area, USA
2015 ML 350
The thinking in the US years ago when yellow light bulbs were phased into the US Market was that forward facing bulbs would be Amber and rearward facing bulbs would be red. The same was true for side marker lamps. That way even from some distance away in dark night conditions, you could look at the lights and know if an intersecting car was going slowly from right to left or vice versa, and whether it was approaching or departing from you.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2015 | 04:07 PM
  #24  
Kartergreg's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 236
Likes: 30
From: Florida
2013 ML350 Bluetec, 2016 C3, 2020 Lincoln Aviator
Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
..... and whether it was approaching or departing from you.
I would have thought the white headlights or red taillights would have been a dead give away.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2015 | 05:07 PM
  #25  
Barry45RPM's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,017
Likes: 16
From: Ft. Lauderdale Area, USA
2015 ML 350
Originally Posted by Kartergreg
I would have thought the white headlights or red taillights would have been a dead give away.
Back then, up until darkness, as the sun set people first switched on their parking lights.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:43 PM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE