Girly_tt

I'm seeing them listed as being different, but can't find what the actual difference is?

Welwynnick

On European cars, 4 pot calipers and 345mm discs were fitted up to 2002. 8 pot calipers and 360 discs were fitted thereafter (same as S55 kompresser).

On US, Japan and Australian cars, I believe the 4 x 345 brake were fitted to all models.

Nick

Girly_tt

I'm seeing some sites listing compatibility as 03-06, and 00-02, then I'm seeing others list 00-06... I would have thought they'd be the same. Not so sure now

wallyp

I just went thru this with the S430.

The early S430 cars have dual-piston calipers and vented disks on the rear. At the end of the 2002 model year, the rear brakes changed to single-piston sliding calipers and smaller solid disks.

But - either brake set-up will fit on the rear of any W220 or S500, if you change the entire set on both sides. This sorta makes the puzzling application listings make sense.

I suspect the S600 set-up is similar - as long as you use the complete set, either will probably fit any W220 S600.

Girly_tt

Ok, thank you. I just wanted to make sure the 02's wouldnt be a downgrade of any kind, or cause any fitment issues.

I appreciate the reply.

Im assuming then the brake pads would work across all years as well? Those are having the same conflicting compatibility in the listings.

wallyp

I didn't think to compare the brake pads when I switched the brakes - but I suspect that you will need the pads that match the calipers.

Girly_tt

I'm seeing some brake pads listed as fitting 00-06, some 03-06, some 01-13... Lol mildly confusing

Welwynnick

Can you post links to the sites please?


thanks, Nick

Girly_tt

http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/...ad=47433948732

http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/...ad=47433948732

Just the quick top results from Google.

Hans Ertl

Looks like brake pads are the same on the fronts from 00-06. On the rears they are different (smaller) on 00-02 models than on 03-06 models.

Girly_tt

Lol nice to see you join us lol

wallyp

"On the rears they are different (smaller) on 00-02 models than on 03-06 models."

Perhaps the S600 is different - but on the S430/S500, the earlier brakes have bigger disks and calipers.

Girly_tt

That would make sense they're bigger since they strapped on two turbos in 03.

Welwynnick

What year is your car?


Nick

Girly_tt

Mine is an 05.

Looking at picking up a crashed 02 for parts. Which is why I was asking about compatibility

tusabes

Yes it is opposite

S600 got better brakes in later years , while the s430/s500 got inferior brakes in later years

ZephTheChef

I was starting to wonder if you both were posting on the Girly TT handle, lol. It'll be much less confusing since you both have accounts.

Girly_tt

Nope, it was only me posting.

I told him he needed to join so he could document the build and repairs.

Girly_tt

Turns out... Like every accessory is broken.

I feel like this is turning into our Ram v10 project all over again. Haha

ZephTheChef

I have a hard time feeling sorry for you after you told me what you paid for it, lol. I think you'll still be way better off than what I bought mine for after you get everything fixed, though.

Girly_tt

If it's anything like our Ram was, we'd have been better off paying full retail on an S65 haha

ZephTheChef

I hear ya. Like my dad's Harley he bought @ Copart. By the time he had it together he literally could have bought a new one for about the same money, lol. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you just learn a lot.

Girly_tt

We'll see how it goes. At least everything will be new /thoroughly inspected, etc

Jack_88

If nothing else, you'll have saved a rare car from the boneyard.

cm60k

"2001 to fab/2004" W220 S600 non-turbo got 4-pot calipers with (345x32) Fronts & (315x22) Rears,,

"2004 to jun/2006" W220 S600 Bi-turbo got the same set-up with all 55K brakes, which is 8-pot calipers with (360x36) Fronts & (330x26) Rears..

,,ZAYED,,