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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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E46 M3 vs SLK 55

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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**** dude. Your E39 5 series must be POS then. BMW started out making Isetta's and the like. Ever see one of those?

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Unless YOU lose to a M3, I wouldn't sweat it. Besides, someone will always have a faster car than you, even if it's a Lambo.
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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i have won with my SLK 55 against an 997 S and a M3 CSL !!!
I dont know the video has been posted how the SLK 55 can lose !!
in the video the M3 wins easy and it is not real !!!

The performance of the SLK55 and the M3 CLS are very close!! Infact i won but not so easy!!
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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I find this really strange too. I had a race with M3 before and it was a pretty tight race. Though SLK had an edge over it. But in the video the M3 just seem to be walking away from it.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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I find this really strange too. I had a race with M3 before and it was a pretty tight race. Though SLK had an edge over it. But in the video the M3 just seem to be walking away from it.
Perhaps that's because you're actually intelligent enough, and care enough about actually winning the race, to start with your car in gear. The races were run like this: M3 was in gear, SLK55 is in auto mode. Honk horns, stomp both. M3 takes off and gets something like 1/2 second plus jump while SLK's computer overrides stupid driver and downshifts to proper gear.

Oh, and the M3 was modded...read the post in full.

M&M is a longtime troll in this forum and others, who has a single-minded obsession: tearing down the reputation of any and all competitors to BMW M cars. He has posted here for over four years, at Audiworld for at least five, in the South Africa Audi Club for longer, and in multiple other forums, always playing the same game. For a partial list of the lies in which I've caught M&M in this forum, have a look at this post:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=119

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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Improviz
Perhaps that's because you're actually intelligent enough, and care enough about actually winning the race, to start with your car in gear. The races were run like this: M3 was in gear, SLK55 is in auto mode. Honk horns, stomp both. M3 takes off and gets something like 1/2 second plus jump while SLK's computer overrides stupid driver and downshifts to proper gear.

Oh, and the M3 was modded...read the post in full.

M&M is a longtime troll in this forum and others, who has a single-minded obsession: tearing down the reputation of any and all competitors to BMW M cars. He has posted here for over four years, at Audiworld for at least five, in the South Africa Audi Club for longer, and in multiple other forums, always playing the same game. For a partial list of the lies in which I've caught M&M in this forum, have a look at this post:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=119

For a look at his trolling, here is his posting history, of threads he's started:

Great job, mate! I was in shocked when I was reading all that. haha. We have an M3 back home but only drive it once in a while whenever I get back and my butt dyno never recall it being faster than slk55.
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Chimp, we did some runs in manual mode. M3 still won.

Then we did 5 STANDING STARTS. Guess what? Bot cars were in 1st gear for those.

BTW, get a life.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by M&M
Chimp, we did some runs in manual mode. M3 still won.

Then we did 5 STANDING STARTS. Guess what? Bot cars were in 1st gear for those.

BTW, get a life.
Busted, in yet another lie, and thank you for stepping right into my trap.

None other than you, M&M, wrote at m3forum.net, in the following post, that three of the four videos were done with the SLK55 in auto mode and waiting for it to kick down:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showp...69&postcount=7
Originally Posted by m&m at m3forum
Yeah the other 3 videos were in auto mode. Problem is when u stomp it, it downshifts & the M3 is gone while it's busy doing its thing.
Actually I rather leave the owner to sort out the gearbox. I got my stick & I was in front 8 times out of 8.
You couldn't tell the truth if someone held a gun to your head. Bet you're a riot at poker games...always wearing long sleeves, right?
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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I don't understand. What did I lie about? We have 24 runs on tape.

CONFUSED POES!
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Wow, the proven liar won't admit he's a liar....

...what a surprise.

For those of you who take this guy seriously: I've got some swamp land in Florida I'd love to sell ya!

M&M lies about how much his car's modifications affected its performance, *and* about jumping on his car first in a video:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=160

M&M gets busted by user zumbalak in Audiworld's S4 forum. First, he posts following photo of him driving his M3 at the track:
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/274461.phtml
Then, user zumbalak compares the photo with other photos M&M posted there of his car (he posts as "343bhp" there), and found obvious discrepancies:
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/274595.phtml

After zumbalak posted this, m&m went and edited his original post to say that he was driving his *cousin's* car, lol!!! What a joke....I suppose the blue one in the links below is his **other** cousin's car!!

zumbalak then analyzed some other photos M&M posted of "him" in "his" silver M3, which had by then morphed into a smurf blue model (look at the a-piller; exterior paint is clearly smurf blue!)
M&M's original post of the pics:
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/274802.phtml
and zumbalak's nailing him on the smurf blue:
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/274901.phtml
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/274896.phtml

M&M gets busted lying about Car & Driver test car "not having launch control" when, as I showed via a link to his posts, he had participated in discussion on M5 board, twice, about the car having launch control:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....5&postcount=37

M&M gets busted comparing apples to oranges, deliberately comparing slower test data for E55 *wagon* agains M5 when he'd previously been told that this data was for the E55 wagon:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....1&postcount=11

M&M gets busted posting a false claim about the CLS55 after I'd proven it false to him on three separate occasions by posting the actual article he was citing:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=109
Even after proof was provided, M&M continued to lie:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=129

M&M gets busted in a lie he'd stated repeatedly, namely that all European magazines test their cars on "dusty airfields" and with a passenger:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....st#post1183934

M&M gets busted cherry-picking fastest M3 results, slowest C55 results to deceptively portray the M3 as being faster:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....3&postcount=35

M&M gets busted lying about having "bone stock tires" on his car, when it was actually wearing drag radials:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....9&postcount=68
M&M continued to lie, stating that even though I'd found a post of his in the South Africa Audi club where he bragged about how much drag radials had helped his car's launch at about the same date from which he'd posted his timeslip, well, by golly, he actually got better times without them. But then, I found the following, where he'd actually admitted (again at the South Africa Audi forum) that he *HAD* run his best time with semi-slicks (drag radials):
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=112

M&Ms four-year-plus history of trolling other Internet forums under multiple user IDs;

(click here for other multiple instances of the same behavior):

M&M getting busted lying about "stock" M3s running 12 second 1/4 miles:

M&M getting busted lying *again* about the "stock" M3s *and* three more lies:

M&M refusing to engage in honest debate, lying about what I said, and changing the subject when proven wrong:

M&M stating he would be at a dragstrip on Sunday, then not showing up and issuing a lameass excuse when he found out a C32 was going to be there to take him up on his challenge (whoops; gee, I know I told you I was going to be there, but I decided to get my car modded--on Sunday!!)
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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no way that was a stock m3... i raped so many M3s on my way to CT from boston, i eventually lost the will to try to race them! good job man, dumb*ss M&M. additionally, how could WHOEVER raced him not notice that it wasn't stock!?
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Chimp ********. I went thru' ALL your posts & there's no proof of me lying in ANY of them. WTF?

for example, I say here's me driving on the circuit.

Then, you say, "that's not your car"

WTF? When did i say it was?

Also I lied when I said a car doesn't make any more power on the dyno. DUH. IT doesn't.

Get a life POES. None of your links have proof of anything.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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HAHAHHA, here's another one of my lies:

Originally Posted by Improviz
You lied in stating the following:


Quote:
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And seeing as this isn't with the full blown LC, it can be done as many times as you want.
HAHHAAHA, crunt. You got pinned with your own quotes. I said full blown LC. So what I'm a liar. Do US spec cars rev to 4500rpm like Euro versions?

Every single one of your accusations has holes like this. I didn't lie about anything. You too dumb to learn to read, you inbred poes.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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HEY DUMBASS. Take you dick out your mom's @ss & read. I said it didn't make more power on the dyno. I didn't say it didn't make it faster.
7 day ban. Be polite, do not instigate, obey rules.
Let this also be a warning, it's no fun to close threads and then have to monitor another one that's just like the closed thread.
If anyone else wishes to act uncivilized they can join the ban list for a longer duration.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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OK so here's a list of everything I lied about:

- Saying my car is not faster when it is (but I said it's not making any more power, I didn't say it's not faster)
- Showing pics of me driving on the track (oh wait, it was me, but not in my car, hard to comprehend I know)
- Saying the US cars didn't have full blown LC (Errrrrr, they don't)
- Comparing some slower cars to faster ones (mmm, is that lying?)
- Showing an AMS test of a CLS55 instead of Sport Auto one (oh nice 1, because the CLS5 did bad in the one test we must ignore that)
- Saying some Euro mags test on dusty airfields (errr some do, eg Topgear)
- Lying about my stock tyres (well I volunteered that info long before I got "bust" & my best time was with stock tyres)
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Originally Posted by M&M
HAHAHHA, here's another one of my lies:



HAHHAAHA, crunt. You got pinned with your own quotes. I said full blown LC. So what I'm a liar. Do US spec cars rev to 4500rpm like Euro versions?
You lie again. The test in question DID USE THE EURO VERSION. This was my point: you LIED about it. You KNEW it was the Euro version of the car, because you had participated in TWO posts on the BMW forum where you discussed this fact.

And then you came over here and LIED about it.

YOU KNEW that those two cars were Euro versions with launch control, and yet you came to our forums and falsely claimed that they did not. In my post, which anyone here can read, I quoted the posts in which you participated and discussed this prior to coming here and claiming that the car did NOT have the Euro launch control.
Here is the post. It contains links to the BMW forum where you discussed the cars' having Euro launch control prior to lying about it here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....5&postcount=37

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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Geez, now he's even lying about what I said he llied about!!

Pathetic, truly pathetic. You're so dishonest that you're even lying about what I wrote.

Originally Posted by M&M
OK so here's a list of everything I lied about:

- Saying my car is not faster when it is (but I said it's not making any more power, I didn't say it's not faster)
NO, you came over here and attempted to downplay the effect of the mods on your car's performance to make it look as though any ol' M3 could beat an SLK55, while you had bragged about how fast your mods made your car at m3forum.net. My post contains links to your post at m3forum and the post in which you downplayed the mods' effectiveness is linked to in this thread, first post.

Originally Posted by M&M
- Showing pics of me driving on the track (oh wait, it was me, but not in my car, hard to comprehend I know)
You certainly implied it. But oh, yeah, I'm sure that people all over South Africa lend you their M3s (at least two different cars) and let you run them at competitive events--especially when you've got one of your own.

Originally Posted by M&M
- Saying the US cars didn't have full blown LC (Errrrrr, they don't)
No, you falsely claimed that the cars a US magazine had tested did not have launch control, when in fact you had already participated in discussions at the BMW forum where you, yourself, wrote of their being Euro versions with Euro launch control. So you already knew that the cars were *EUROPEAN* cars which *DID* have "full blown launch control" before coming over here and lying about it, and I proved this by linking to the posts in which you had discussed this prior to coming here and claiming that they didn't. My post has the links. People can read for themselves:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....5&postcount=37

Originally Posted by M&M
- Comparing some slower cars to faster ones (mmm, is that lying?)
Selectively picking the slowest test data for Mercedes cars and the fastest for BMWs in a deceptive attempt to demonstrate BMW superiority is certainly extremely dishonest. Proven here: https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....1&postcount=11

Originally Posted by M&M
- Showing an AMS test of a CLS55 instead of Sport Auto one (oh nice 1, because the CLS5 did bad in the one test we must ignore that)
No, you lied and posted absolutely inaccurate data, falsely claiming that the CLK55 AMG was tested slower than it was in an AMS comparison test between it and the M5 and continued to do so even after I'd corrected you, and linked you to the AMS VIDEO OF THE TEST, on three separate occasions. This is, by any standard, a lie.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=109
Even after proof was provided, M&M continued to lie:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=129

Originally Posted by M&M
- Saying some Euro mags test on dusty airfields (errr some do, eg Topgear)
Again: you did not say SOME, you said ALL European magazines test on dusty airfields, with a passenger, and I quoted this in the post (below). Both were lies, which you continued to repeat even after I repeatedly challenged you to produce one example. Further, you claimed that *specific* tests were conducted on dusty airfields, and I provided you with the actual test articles, which said no such thing.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....st#post1183934
Again, a lie. And you lie about it now.

Originally Posted by M&M
- Lying about my stock tyres (well I volunteered that info long before I got "bust" & my best time was with stock tyres)
Sequence was this;
1) you came here and posted a timeslip dated May 2, 2004, and claimed to have run a very fast time with a very suspiciously low 60' time on stock tires, when your car was "bone stock" (your words). Myself and others were suspicious and disputed this, but you argued, repeatedly, that your car was "bone stock".

2) I produced a post of yours from April 23, 2004, ONE WEEK BEFORE the date on this timeslip, that you'd made in the South Africa Audi forum where you'd bragged about mounting up semi-slicks (drag radials) on your M3, and how much they'd improved its launch and performance, claiming that it took off like a scalded cat. You also detailed how you were able to launch without spin at a higher RPM than with the normal tires. The title of the post was "got me a quattro M3!" Here is what you wrote:
Originally Posted by I8A4RE, a.k.a. M&M
Got me a Quattro M3
April 23 2004 at 6:14 PM
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Just kidding Put on my Dunlop Direzza 02G H1 semi-slicks. Pre getting to Tiger Wheel & Tyre, I did a launch at 4000rpm at a specific robot. (same robot you & raced at RS6King). Car spun a bit & revs dropped to 3500 until it hooked up & launched pretty well.

After fitting semi's went back to same robot. 4000rpm clutch dump, revs stayed at 4000rpm & immediately car took off like a scalded cat. No wheelspin. If anything, it felt like it was going to start wheel-hopping.

Have fitted them to a spare set of mags. Have the road tyres on my original set. Takes 10 minutes to swap. Tyres are totally legal. DOT & SABS approved for street use. I just have to avoid standing water, but I don't plan on driving around with them anyway.

The FWD guys might be interested in how much they gain off the line, especially in the 60ft times. Will let you know on Sunday.
The rest of this is detailed here, including a link to the timeslip, your false claims, etc.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....9&postcount=68

3) even after confronted with this, you still continued to deny having the tires mounted on your car when you'd made the run;

4) So I did some more digging, and produced a post from that same forum where you stated that your all-time best run was done with semi-slicks mounted on the car.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....&postcount=112

This is recorded, in print, and it's beyond dispute. You lied.

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:40 AM
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Chimp, we did some runs in manual mode. M3 still won.

Then we did 5 STANDING STARTS. Guess what? Bot cars were in 1st gear for those.

BTW, get a life.

Who's the one who needs to get a life?

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=122820
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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Yeah, let's see a ban on M&M
Why? Because he doesnt agree with you guys?

PS I spoke to M&M, seems he was banned from this forum. this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in the many forums that I post on. Someone got banned because he posted proof that an M3 is faster than an SLK55 AMG.

One way to describe it. Truly pathetic & disgusting.
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Hey guys, I am posting this on behalf of M&M, who was banned Hitler-style for no apparent reason.


Originally Posted by Chimproviz
NO, you came over here and attempted to downplay the effect of the mods on your car's performance to make it look as though any ol' M3 could beat an SLK55,
I said it didn't make any more power, but it improved acceleration. WHAT DID I LIE ABOUT? I didn't downplay ANYTHING poes. If you provide a link showing I said "The mods didn't make the car faster" Then I will leave this forum & never return. If not the shut your idiotic trap & stop saying I lied.

Originally Posted by Chimproviz
You certainly implied it.
You are a liar & yo been bust again. I implied that I was driving my car? Show me a link or STFU. I said "here's a pic of me on the track". There's no implications there.

Originally Posted by Chimproviz
No, you falsely claimed that the cars a US magazine had tested did not have launch control, when in fact you had already participated in discussions at the BMW forum where you, yourself, wrote of their being Euro versions with Euro launch control. So you already knew that the cars were *EUROPEAN* cars which *DID* have "full blown launch control" before coming over here and lying about it, and I proved this by linking to the posts in which you had discussed this prior to coming here and claiming that they didn't. My post has the links. People can read for themselves:
https://mbworld.org/forums/sho...5&postcount=37
Here's a link YOU provided from the editor of C&D in trying to show me as a liar:

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=64436

"We did use a U.S.-spec M5. During testing, after about 20 or so runs, we discovered that our best time was recorded when simply applying approx. 70% throttle from a dead start and increasing the throttle as traction increased. This techinique proved very difficult and inconsistant but was found to have the best times. Usually during our testing we will use whatever measure neccesary to achieve the quickest times. Our times are also corected for tempature, and humidity. - Ed."

So YOU LOSE. They tested a US spec car & there method is not monitored by the LC so it can be done all day long. STOP WITH THE LYING, LIAR!

Originally Posted by Chimproviz
Selectively picking the slowest test data for Mercedes cars and the fastest for BMWs in a deceptive attempt to demonstrate BMW superiority is certainly extremely dishonest. Proven here: https://mbworld.org/forums/sho...1&postcount=11
I can compare whatever I want. If you compare the 2 fastest cars you will still have the same winner.


Originally Posted by Chimproviz
No, you lied and posted absolutely inaccurate data, falsely claiming that the CLK55 AMG was tested slower than it was in an AMS comparison test between it and the M5
I lied in saying it was tested slower? Well it was. WTF. There are 2 AMD tests, one with the CLS55 & M5, one with the CLS55, SLK55, & M5. I found it on this forum 1st actually. You were referring to the one AMS test, I was referring to the other. Doesn't matter, M5 was faster & that's not a lie


Originally Posted by Chimproviz
Again: you did not say SOME, you said ALL European magazines test on dusty airfields,
If you provide a link with me saying the words "ALL EURO MAGS TEST ON DUSTY AIRFIELDS" then you win & I will leave. But you won't find that link because I didn't say ALL of them do. So STFU.


Originally Posted by Chimproviz
Sequence was this;
1) you came here and posted a timeslip dated May 2, 2004, and claimed to have run a very fast time with a very suspiciously low 60' time on stock tires, when your car was "bone stock" (your words). Myself and others were suspicious and disputed this, but you argued, repeatedly, that your car was "bone stock".
It was. With Toyo's I beat my times with the semi's by 2 thousandths of a second. So my best time at that track WAS bone stock. You can whatever you want about whatever being a coincidence, you need to provide a pic or video of the semi's on the car when I did my best run.

If you provide such proof then I am a liar, until then STFU.
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Just fyi, the ban was enforced before I placed my comment.

I just have to say to all parties involved, little shots here and there is fair game but the swearing and childplay needs to end.

And this is the last you'll hear from me on this thread.


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