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12-11-2006, 11:55 AM
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Hey Improviz
To keep you posted since you have seen no Gallardos in the 11's, bone stock Gallardo SE in South Florida at the Supercar Challange, turned an 11.89@118. Jason Heffners own 430 Spider which magazines put at 120+ mph car and high 12's to low 11''s could only manage high 12's at 114.
Oh and yes, here is the timeslip....
Oh and yes, here is the timeslip....
12-11-2006, 12:53 PM
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Nice run! It's about time (2 years?) someone breaks 12's in this car.
A few ?'s:
How many runs did it make that day? Where they all in the 11's? Or was this an anomaly? Stock tires? What other cars ran that day besides an f430 (s65,e55??(times)?
Details please.
A few ?'s:
How many runs did it make that day? Where they all in the 11's? Or was this an anomaly? Stock tires? What other cars ran that day besides an f430 (s65,e55??(times)?
Details please.
12-11-2006, 02:48 PM
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[QUOTE=L8Apex;1881975]Nice run! It's about time (2 years?) someone breaks 12's in this car.
A few ?'s:
How many runs did it make that day? Where they all in the 11's? Or was this an anomaly? Stock tires? What other cars ran that day besides an f430 (s65,e55??(times)?
Details please.[/QUOTe
Looks like there were a bunch of runs and only 1 in the 11's which was supposedly recorded by someone else even though he has a few videos of his mid 12 runs. Personally I hope he did hit the 11's but I would still like to see that run.
A few ?'s:
How many runs did it make that day? Where they all in the 11's? Or was this an anomaly? Stock tires? What other cars ran that day besides an f430 (s65,e55??(times)?
Details please.[/QUOTe
Looks like there were a bunch of runs and only 1 in the 11's which was supposedly recorded by someone else even though he has a few videos of his mid 12 runs. Personally I hope he did hit the 11's but I would still like to see that run.
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I don't know how they got that MPH. There are three different 06 M6's listed on Dragtimes.com and one is 113 and 2 are 114. Anything in the 120's seems a bit of a stretch unless they had a factory ringer. How's the G doing?
12-11-2006, 07:06 PM
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About 5 minutes ago I booked the G into B. Hills for 10.20 on Wednesday morning. I'm travelling to Dallas so my gf is going to use my car while they fix the hatch. This being said, my car needs to go in too. It makes a strange whirring noise when sat at idle about one in five times I start it up. It really is enough to make you buy a Honda Civic!
Any buyers for the 65 yet? I bet you'll be sad to see it go
12-12-2006, 02:37 AM
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To keep you posted since you have seen no Gallardos in the 11's, bone stock Gallardo SE in South Florida at the Supercar Challange, turned an 11.89@118. Jason Heffners own 430 Spider which magazines put at 120+ mph car and high 12's to low 11''s could only manage high 12's at 114.
Oh and yes, here is the timeslip....
Oh and yes, here is the timeslip....
...you just shot yourself in the foot, and very thoughtfully gave me the ammo to do it.
Went to NWS. No weather station at Wittmann on their maps. If you've got a link to it, let's see it. Altitude is 1280 ft. from the page you linked to (the "look up race tracks" link at the bottom).
I went and checked the temps for that day for Phoenix. Phoenix, which is at a lower altitude, had a high of 88 degrees.
At 4PM.
But your message says 1PM.
At which time the temp was more like 85. Humidity was at 9% at noon, so I just used that.
According to the Z06 forum link you gave, you ran a 12.588 (this is a 12.6 if you're rounding, allen, not a 12.5
) at 113.207
This, corrected, comes out to a 12.09 @ 117.65 .
Which does show that your modifications made your Gallardo faster.
Unfortunately, you might recall the following. I showed it to you before, in this post. It is our own rogerv's timeslip in his bone stock S65 AMG:
And I must also thank you for providing me with the handy-dandy DA calculator. Becuase, you see, Infineon Raceway, where rogerv ran his car, has a DA too!
And when I plug the numbers in for rogerv's run using the conditions on his timeslip, I come up with a DA-corrected time of:
11.59 @ 122.61
Got that? No? Let me make it a little larger:
11.59 @ 122.61
Still having trouble? Let me make it just a little larger so it chokes you a bit more on the way down:
11.59 @ 122.61
Beeyutch, I just OWNED you.
Went to NWS. No weather station at Wittmann on their maps. If you've got a link to it, let's see it. Altitude is 1280 ft. from the page you linked to (the "look up race tracks" link at the bottom).
I went and checked the temps for that day for Phoenix. Phoenix, which is at a lower altitude, had a high of 88 degrees.
At 4PM.
But your message says 1PM.
At which time the temp was more like 85. Humidity was at 9% at noon, so I just used that.
According to the Z06 forum link you gave, you ran a 12.588 (this is a 12.6 if you're rounding, allen, not a 12.5
) at 113.207This, corrected, comes out to a 12.09 @ 117.65 .
Which does show that your modifications made your Gallardo faster.
Unfortunately, you might recall the following. I showed it to you before, in this post. It is our own rogerv's timeslip in his bone stock S65 AMG:
And I must also thank you for providing me with the handy-dandy DA calculator. Becuase, you see, Infineon Raceway, where rogerv ran his car, has a DA too!
And when I plug the numbers in for rogerv's run using the conditions on his timeslip, I come up with a DA-corrected time of:
11.59 @ 122.61
Got that? No? Let me make it a little larger:
11.59 @ 122.61
Still having trouble? Let me make it just a little larger so it chokes you a bit more on the way down:
11.59 @ 122.61
Beeyutch, I just OWNED you.
Haven't seen a timeslip of a Lambo, including yours, running an altitude-corrected 11.6 (or, as you would round it, an 11.5 ). Have you?
Haven't seen a video of any stock Lambo pulling any stock S65 or SL65. Have you?
I'm not really interested in what you, or others who, like you, have not raced a Gallardo head to head with an S65 or an SL65, have to say about what you *think* it can do. What I am interested in is raw numbers, and/or video, showing what it *can* do.
The problem is this: you have provided the raw numbers. They fall short.
Come back when you've got something to show. But your time and trap don't correct to any 11.59 @122.61, no matter how you slice it.Why not trot out some numbers of you beating an 11.56 @ 122?? Oh, I know why: because you don't have them!
). Have you?Haven't seen a video of any stock Lambo pulling any stock S65 or SL65. Have you?
I'm not really interested in what you, or others who, like you, have not raced a Gallardo head to head with an S65 or an SL65, have to say about what you *think* it can do. What I am interested in is raw numbers, and/or video, showing what it *can* do.
The problem is this: you have provided the raw numbers. They fall short.
Come back when you've got something to show. But your time and trap don't correct to any 11.59 @122.61, no matter how you slice it.Why not trot out some numbers of you beating an 11.56 @ 122?? Oh, I know why: because you don't have them!
As to what I was asking for: as you can see, I was asking for a Gallardo time which *beat* the S65, and now the SL65, and unfortunately, this one, like yours, falls short.
But in the meantime, we have another treat for you to choke on in your denial: a new video of a bone stock (despite your lie to the contrary, the car *is* bone stock, as verified by RennTechV12) SL65 running a rather impressive time.
The video, since you seem to have trouble with embedded hyperlinks as in above paragraph:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...76352028&hl=en
So, let's have a look at the time of the Miracle Lambo you found, the one and only car in the US to have gotten into the 11s that we know of (I'm sure if there were more, you'd have posted them): if the timeslip is accurate (and as many times as you've been caught posting innacurate data and lies, I'm dubious), the car you're posting about ran an 11.897 @ 118.95.
Great. Only problem is that a) this is one car, while most of them are running in the 12's; b) we have multiple videos of bone stock SL65s running well into the 11's, at higher traps than this.
For example, here is the time one from Scottsdale I linked to up above: 11.55 @ 120.44, which corrected to 11.40 @ 121.99 (and again: this is without barametric pressure, temperature, and humidity factored in, it is ONLY the altitude correction). This, by itself, gives the car a time which is 0.497 (one half second) and 3 mph faster than the Lambo you found. However, since you're so especially annoying, I went and got the data for the strip, used the highest temp and humidity for the day, and it still corrected faster, to a 11.33 @ 122.74.
Ooooooh, SNAP, allen: I know that first grade subtraction is probably a challenge to a stalwart like you, so allow me to save you the trouble: this means that the SL65 ran a margin of 0.567 seconds, and *3.79* mph.
Let me repeat that: this gives this SL65 a margin of 0.567 seconds, and almost *four* mph, over the best Lambo you could find!
And that's one. We have two, actually more than two, but given your penchant for ignoring data, I'll only force you to twist your mind up into enough of a pretzel to comprehend two:
rogerv's time in his stock S65 was, as posted before, 11.59 @ 122.61. Which is about 0.3 seconds and 3.66 mph faster than the Lambo.
So even when you get someone better than you, or with a faster car (anyone here find out where this slip is from, if the car was modded, etc.?), it still isn't as fast as *either* a bone stock SL65 nor a bone stock S65.
As to your car: you posted your best time was 12.588 @ 113.207, which corrected to a 12.09 @ 117.65.
Which is 0.76 seconds / 5.09 mph slower than the SL65, and 0.5 seconds / 4.96 mph slower than the S65.
I'll repeat that. YOUR BEST TIME TO DATE is 0.76 seconds / 5.09 mph slower than the SL65, and 0.5 seconds / 4.96 mph slower than the S65.
I'll repeat it one more time: YOUR BEST TIME TO DATE is 0.76 seconds / 5.09 mph slower than the SL65, and 0.5 seconds / 4.96 mph slower than the S65.
Clear enough for you there, sparky?? You just got OWNED again.
But here's your shot at redemption: let's see you take that stock SL65 at the strip in your modded lambo, allen:
Show up and race this Saturday! <--clicky-click!
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