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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 02:30 AM
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Misfire under load due to cracked Evo sport header

CEL has been on and off for over 6 months, due to cylinder 6 misfire. visited several garages and changed the spark plugs, coils, fuel filter twice, still no luck. last week, I went to another garage for another thorough check, and they finally found out that one of my headers is cracked, got it welded and now my car is running happily ever after, SINCE it has a CP+SC pulley combo installed.

p.s.:the purpose of this post is just a reference for anyone who has got his CEL on but can't figure out the problem.
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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Damn that sucks. How do you like the Evosport headers? I still have to install mine. Did you notice any gain?
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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why would you have it welded? I'd send it back for a new set. If those welds failed the others might as well etc. I had a set of POS JBA headers that did that on my supercharged bronco 5.8l. They also ate plug wires like crazy!
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by M_M
CEL has been on and off for over 6 months, due to cylinder 6 misfire. visited several garages and changed the spark plugs, coils, fuel filter twice, still no luck. last week, I went to another garage for another thorough check, and they finally found out that my one of my headers is cracked, got it welded and my car runs happily ever after.... (due to the CP+SC pulley combo)
Wow. thats not good. wonder what evo will do for you. for 3K those should not crack.
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by spr
why would you have it welded? I'd send it back for a new set. If those welds failed the others might as well etc. I had a set of POS JBA headers that did that on my supercharged bronco 5.8l. They also ate plug wires like crazy!
I agree totaly

For that kind of coin, I would certainly want a new set.

See yeah
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by M_M
(due to the CP+SC pulley combo)
So you are saying this happened due to a CP=crank pulley(what size?) and a C3P S/C pulley? Also you mentioned over 6 months back...were the S/C pullies selling at that time?
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by c32used
So you are saying this happened due to a CP=crank pulley(what size?) and a C3P S/C pulley? Also you mentioned over 6 months back...were the S/C pullies selling at that time?
ditto same Qs.
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by c32used
So you are saying this happened due to a CP=crank pulley(what size?) and a C3P S/C pulley? Also you mentioned over 6 months back...were the S/C pullies selling at that time?
They had custom ones back then. There was a custom made SC pulley for sale in classfields not too long ago, might still be there.
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kindafast
They had custom ones back then. There was a custom made SC pulley for sale in classfields not too long ago, might still be there.

Ok I understand custom but do you remember what size and who made or sold it? I was leaning on trying the C3P S/C pulley with my 178 pulley but this scared me luckily it was only the header that took the major damage but who knows maybe his wallet did too since he took it to several shop to diagnose the problem til it was found.
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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M M will have to clarify... I read his post COMPLETELY differently than you. Basically, I thought it sounded like he's saying his car is running happily ever after DUE TO the CP + SC pulley combo, now that he's had the header crack fixed.

NOT that the CP + SC pulley combo somehow CAUSED the header crack, which seems to be how the rest of you are taking it...
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
M M will have to clarify... I read his post COMPLETELY differently than you. Basically, I thought it sounded like he's saying his car is running happily ever after DUE TO the CP + SC pulley combo, now that he's had the header crack fixed.

NOT that the CP + SC pulley combo somehow CAUSED the header crack, which seems to be how the rest of you are taking it...
Thats why I asked him the question just incase I misunderstood what he said so the wait is on til M M clarifies...if I misunderstood him sorry...not my intention at all.
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by c32used
Thats why I asked him the question just incase I misunderstood what he said so the wait is on til M M clarifies...if I misunderstood him sorry...not my intention at all.
That's what I figured...

Just stating how it sounded to me, that's all.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
M M will have to clarify... I read his post COMPLETELY differently than you. Basically, I thought it sounded like he's saying his car is running happily ever after DUE TO the CP + SC pulley combo, now that he's had the header crack fixed.

NOT that the CP + SC pulley combo somehow CAUSED the header crack, which seems to be how the rest of you are taking it...

EXAETLY!!
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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mdncn2762: well, I would say the gain is there but not really dramatic, no touque loss though.

spr, hooleyboy and MRAMG1: it's too much hassle to ask them for a new set, so if it could be fixed, I'd just fix it right away.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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post edited, I hope it won't get anyone confused.

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Originally Posted by M_M
post edited, I hope it won't get anyone confused.

the purpose of this post is just a reference for anyone who has got his CEL on but can't figure out the problem.
Thanks 4 clarifying and sorry for misunderstanding

Now a question???
Whose S/C pulley you have and what size crank pulley are you using? If you can please try to dyno it with combo pullies...
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Originally Posted by c32used
Thanks 4 clarifying and sorry for misunderstanding

Now a question???
Whose S/C pulley you have and what size crank pulley are you using? If you can please try to dyno it with combo pullies...
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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I dont recall, Hummm maybe.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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Glad to hear you fixed your problem, but when having cracked headers, didn't
you hear a nasty exhaust leak?

Also having a crank pulley / supercharger pulley combo with no tune, CAN
cause the car to run lean, and WHEN you run lean the exhaust temperature
goes through the roof.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 04:49 AM
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c32used: asp 178mm + code3 56.8mm SC.

nerhouma: i didn't hear the exhaust leak though, maybe there's something wrong with my ears!

without a program, I think my car tends to run rich.
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Originally Posted by M_M
c32used: asp 178mm + code3 56.8mm SC.

nerhouma: i didn't hear the exhaust leak though, maybe there's something wrong with my ears!

without a program, I think my car tends to run rich.

Are you planning to do a dyno? Because I think you're the first person who is using an sc pulley and a crank pulley in combination. A lot of people are interested in the result. Do you think you can do a review?
Which pulley did you have first? and how did it feel once you got a 2nd one? Do you get belt slip? Does you sc overheat? Have you done 1/4, dyno?
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Originally Posted by kindafast
Are you planning to do a dyno? Because I think you're the first person who is using an sc pulley and a crank pulley in combination. A lot of people are interested in the result. Do you think you can do a review?
Which pulley did you have first? and how did it feel once you got a 2nd one? Do you get belt slip? Does you sc overheat? Have you done 1/4, dyno?
+1

I am very interested in this if really little to none issues..do you have a tune?
I truely want to see a review if possible...how long you had it?
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kindafast
Are you planning to do a dyno? Because I think you're the first person who is using an sc pulley and a crank pulley in combination. A lot of people are interested in the result. Do you think you can do a review?
Which pulley did you have first? and how did it feel once you got a 2nd one? Do you get belt slip? Does you sc overheat? Have you done 1/4, dyno?
I'm running both too. I tried to post on here earlier about the results, but my account has been restricted since I registered over three months ago (could not post), so I've just been lurking in the bushes like a creep. Mods have me fixed up now though.

Anyway, I'm running ASP + Code3 and my car pulls very hard in the mid-range, but I lost A LOT of power above 5000 RPM. Jerry @ LET has my ECU as we speak however, and I am confident this will fix the problem.
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