clk-sterre

I have a c220 diesel, completely stock (have it 8 months approx.)

Now I was looking around to find some new rims for the car and finally I found what I was looking for.

As a noob to technical parts of a car, I just went out to look for rims I like..





specification : 8 1/2j x 17h2 et52

First I went to the technical control to ask if it was allowed to put 17 inch wheels under the car, so I wouldn't have problems passing the control. That was no problem.

Now, this morning I went to the tire-shop to put tires on it and put it under the car...
But they don't match ...

So I assume there is no way to get this rims under the car?

Thanks upfront


Sven

Ttran

the offsets are too high for our cars. You probably need spacers. If I'm correct offsets for w202 chassis is around 35-40 or lower? correct me if I'm wrong.

wichipong

you would need 20mm spacers if you want to use it on your car... good luck

joeljp

Found this site recently, it covers just about all the models and what wheels/tyres combination. I'm also looking for a new set of 18 or 19 for my beast and with this chart, I can at least weed out what will not fit.

http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/inf.../mercedes-benz

clk-sterre

http://www.givacartuning.com/Spacers...e::142352.html

is this the one I need then? The price suggested, is that for 4 spacers or only for 1 ?

Thanks upfront.

(this is going to get expensive shoes for the car ...)

wichipong

i dont understand what it says but H&R spacers come in sets of 2's and 4's... :dunno:

it doesnt have to be H&R as long as it is made of great quality stuff and it should work...

dont forget longer studs coz you woould need em!

clk-sterre

thanks for the reply. I am mailing around to ask people who make this 'things' (spacers) what and how. For sure it is 20 mm?

what do you guys think of these set of wheels under a w202 elegance black? Will it match?

I am curious how much these rims cost new. Want to know if I will pay more with the spacers and the hole upgrade.

And btw , there is also something as adapters. They say it is better to use adapters because of the longer studs or so ...

kind regards

Sven

waybomb

Are those ML wheels? If so, I believe ML wheels are made for 14mm bolts, not 12mm bolts. Could be wrong though.

Just make sure the 12mm bolt fits properly.

FWIW - spacers suck. Buy wheels with the correct offset. I believe you will be much happier.

clk-sterre

the rims are from a ML 163 indeed.

Still haven't found 'spacers' for the wheels. Maybe I will resell the rims and look around to find 'matching' wheels.

Can someone explain me what the stock W202 specifications are? I mean, what offset etc ... (hope you guys understand what I mean)

And can someone explain to me in very simple words why a 8 1/2j x 17h2 et52 rims doesn't match this type of car...

=) I know, probably stupid questions, but 'mi no understand' this technical vocabulary

kind regards
/S

waybomb

Don't know what wheels you have on your car. So, in order to find an interchange that works without spacers, you need to know some things.

First off, your wheel bolts are 12mm; the ML rims won't work. Your bolt circle is 112mm in diameter. The ML wheels are 14mm x I think 114mm, not sure, but I do know they won't work on your car.

8 1/2J is the width - 8.5 inches
17h2 is the diameter - 17 inches
et52 is the offset. Meaning, the flange, the part that actually touches your brake rotor, is 52mm offset from the center line of the wheel. Toward the outside of the rim.

Now, to find out what will work on your car, you need to take one wheel off. In the back side of the wheel, will be numbers similar to those above.

Then look up "wheel offset calculator" via google or whatever search you like.

Then, plug in the numbers on your wheel, and the numbers on the proposed wheel, and the calculator will show which way the wheel moves, and by how much. Then you can take that info and go out to your car, and measure if the new wheels fit.


ps - you will not find adapters to attach the ml wheel to your 202. Here's a pic of our 202 with w210 sport wheels.

clk-sterre

Thanks upfront for clearing this things up for me. Now I understand more about rims and sizes and etc

maybe stupid question in a W202 subtopic, but what are these ML rims worth approx? Will resell them and look for rims that fits my car. They are originals with no damage at all. (you can see in the pics)

The car is a w202 from january 1998, completely stock. So the standards wheels/rims are still on the car. Necessary to get the rims of and look or is there a manual with the specifications of the rims I have?

This forum is already been very helpfull for me. Hopefully you can understand a bit my english. It is not my mothertongue.

/S

Magnum126

You can fit these wheels to your car with wheel adapters that can be purchased here.
http://www.motorsport-tech.com/wheel_adapters.html The cost will be around $310 plus shipping for 4 of them. You need to fill in your car so 1998 Mecedes C-class with a 23mm thickness for the front spacers and a 32mm thickness for the rear if you want the front and rear wheels to both sit with the same flush fit front and rear. If you are not worried about that you can order 4 of the 23mm thick adapters. So if you wish to order click on "click to purchase" then fill in 1998 Mercedes C-class. Use the one piece adapters with hub centric to vehicle and wheel centric to vehicle wheel option.
Then choose 23mm thickness for the front and 32mm thickness for the rear or 4 of the 23mm. Then choose the 14x1.5mm stud size, and 66.56 for the center bore size and 5x112mm for the bolt pattern diameter. These adapters will fit those ML wheels perfectly to your car.

waybomb

Jeez, I'm sorry I stated adapters weren't available! Learn something new every day.

I'm bookmarking that site - could be useful one day.

To be honest though, I'd prefer to use wheels not need spacers.

Magnum126

I agree with you. I prefer to use wheels that are made in the bolt pattern and offset for my car. I'm just showing that it can be done if he so wishes.

Darth Speed

You can use those rims but they need to be offset about +30 which means they need a 22mm spacer. Spacers come in 20mm and 25mm. they will also add a lot of drag on your car and may not be a good idea on a diesel.

ohlord

20-25mm spacers are not an idea to consider at all.
You don't get into the habit of trying to fit the wrong rims for the application by making something out of what was a poorly purchased decision in the first place.
Go to http://www.1010tires.com/
for tire and offset calculations and some much needed rim tire education
Then go to the diy section on www.benzworld.org w210 forum and locate the list of all Mercedes model rim/tire combinations.That is your homework assignment for the evening

OCKlasse

15mm spacers front and 25mm spacers rear would be fine.

H&R Trak spacers work well, especially in the 25mm application!