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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MB-BOB
Maybe we just think alike? I'm sure it's not because we both are wiser with age...

As you can tell, this little license plate issue means something to me. IMO, when you think of why these plates REALLY are "required" it takes on Big Brother significance.

People park in lots "head-in" 98% of the time, so a front plate can't be seen by a Police Car patrolling the lot. And some perp speeding away from a crime scene shows the police his tail, not his front. So, no help for the Cops in these cases.

But it does aid those intersection cameras that snap photos of front bumpers and driver's faces as they run lights. And it's no secret the vertical face of the plate in front provides an ideal reflective "Target" giving accurate readings for radar and laser speed guns. So, in short, we have these laws to promote revenue generation by local governments?

As a non-speeder and one who hates red light runners, I don't find these benefits sufficient to outweigh the detriments noted previously. I know it's just me... or not.
Not to beat a horse to death, but there is some clarification required here, yes, you are correct that the push for front license plate enforcement is based on the rising number of red light cameras installed in many California intersections, and the bottom line is that we need those cameras to reduce the number of traffic accidents caused by red light runners. The drop in the number of these types of collisions is staggering - so , as a matter of opinion (and a former victim of a red light runner colliding with my police car) the benefits far outweigh the inconveniences.

The plates do not, however, serve any reflective purpose to aid in the use of radar or laser radar devices. The devices (if properly calibrated) will operate with or without front license plates.

As I also posted on a previous related thread, and in agreement with the previous view on this thread, the bottom line is that it is California law and those who do not comply are subject to a ticket. If you don't like the rule, then you should move to a state that does not have this law.

Also, you need to keep in mind that there is a little box on California citations that indicates if the violation is correctable or non correctable. If the officer checks "correctable" then it is nothing more than fixing it and a small court fee. If the officer checks "non correctable" then the court will impose additional fees - usually totalling over $100 - a risk many would probably not take.

Hope this helps.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Trekman
its funny cuz I know for a fact that if anyone here got pulled over for not having front plates, we would tell the cop that it came from the dealer with out it....
LOL, you're right, I do hear that a lot and my response "Ignorance is no excuse, please sign on the line"
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MVillareal
If you don't like the rule, then you should move to a state that does not have this law
only if you are BIG on following the rules because people would break the rules all the time. For instance, Governor Schwarzenegger rode his Harley Davidson without having a motorcycle license and nobody fined him. Moving to another state just to conform with a rule seems rather excessive to me. If everybody did that, they would all be in Germany because nobody really drives 65 mph, except when they see a highway patrol car next to them.

On second thought, bad idea moving to Germany because the Germans require a front plate on all of the cars over there

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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mick1
only if you are BIG on following the rules because people would break the rules all the time. For instance, Governor Schwarzenegger rode his Harley Davidson without having a motorcycle license and nobody fined him. Moving to another state just to conform with a rule seems rather excessive to me. I would rather pay the fine instead.
Kudos to you for manning up and accepting the consequences - there is definitely not enough of that in this society. I'll tell you right now, I would have thrown the ticket "book" at the governor if that was my call. I'm a firm believer in equal enforcement of the law, no matter who the violator is.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MVillareal
Kudos to you for manning up and accepting the consequences - there is definitely not enough of that in this society. I'll tell you right now, I would have thrown the ticket "book" at the governor if that was my call. I'm a firm believer in equal enforcement of the law, no matter who the violator is.
I'm more upset with highway patrol officers speeding when they don't chase anyone. Sometimes I would see them driving well over 70 mph without having the flashing lights and siren on. I'm sure some of you have seen them too. Those guys are definitely living above the law.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mick1
I'm more upset with highway patrol officers speeding when they don't chase anyone. Sometimes I would see them driving well over 70 mph without having the flashing lights and siren on. I'm sure some of you have seen them too. Those guys are definitely living above the law.
There are times (more often than not) when officers must respond to backup calls and higher priority calls (not necessarily Code 3 - lights and siren) and it necessitates that they drive faster than usual. When a fellow officer is requesting assistance and only 1 unit is authorized to run with lights and siren to his location, I will be the first to tell you that I would be breaking the speed barrier to get there even if I wasn't the one designated to roll "Code 3"

Do officers overdrive unnecessarily? They sure do and it doesn't make it right, but that is the nature of any profession - Just as they're are priests who molest and doctors who abuse drugs - it sucks.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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This plate bracket uses the existing threaded tow hook hole to affix a front plate, without drilling into the bumper. This plate bracket seems ideal to satisfy the requirements for a "fix-it-ticket" without making permanent mods to the vehicle.

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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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I took off the bracket today to see the damage and they managed to drill between 6-8 holes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the hell do they do that???

Wow!!! I would return that car ASAP - that is completely unsat! Keep us posted...all I need to say is document...document..document all your interactions w/this dealer. Some don't find this to be a big deal - I'm with you on this one. Bumper plugs ain't gonna cut it for me. I'm pretty damn sure this dealer has had to deal with this issue before and if they needed to get you to sign something they would have beforehand. There's plenty of other places you can go to, to obtain another vehicle.

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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MVillareal
There are times (more often than not) when officers must respond to backup calls and higher priority calls (not necessarily Code 3 - lights and siren) and it necessitates that they drive faster than usual. When a fellow officer is requesting assistance and only 1 unit is authorized to run with lights and siren to his location, I will be the first to tell you that I would be breaking the speed barrier to get there even if I wasn't the one designated to roll "Code 3".
Where is this at - Where only one officer is authorized to run 'code' to a call???
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wingless
This plate bracket uses the existing threaded tow hook hole to affix a front plate, without drilling into the bumper. This plate bracket seems ideal to satisfy the requirements for a "fix-it-ticket" without making permanent mods to the vehicle.

pretty useless for an MB dont you think?
i think it's a neat idea. if they had one for our cars i would buy it.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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My car has a tow hook mount in the front bumper. It has a small plastic cover over it. Inside is a single threaded hole. I did mount my plate there for a few mins while PD signed me off.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Moviela
My car has a tow hook mount in the front bumper. It has a small plastic cover over it. Inside is a single threaded hole. I did mount my plate there for a few mins while PD signed me off.
interesting. do you have an AMG bumper?
i dont have my car atm so i cant even find out if i have it. if the bracket above works i would def. buy it!
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Where is this at - Where only one officer is authorized to run 'code' to a call???
Well guys, I have had my car for over a year now. I thought I updated it on what they did but I guess not, they had the holes fixed and painted over for me. You can't even tell it was ever drilled into. Now all I have are dents on my front and rear bumper from people who don't know how to parallel park in LA

Anyways, this is how my car looks like now. Just got it tinted on thursday
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wingless
This plate bracket uses the existing threaded tow hook hole to affix a front plate, without drilling into the bumper. This plate bracket seems ideal to satisfy the requirements for a "fix-it-ticket" without making permanent mods to the vehicle.

Originally Posted by 14cue
pretty useless for an MB dont you think?
i think it's a neat idea. if they had one for our cars i would buy it.
Sure, just give 'em a call, they'll set you up. The Moss plate kit eye bolt threads match those on the MB towing eye bolt.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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I actually think I'm going to get one of those.
Not that I'm permanently putting on my front license plate.... never will.
But this might come in handy instead of double-sided velcro sticky tape to get those "correctable" citations signed off.


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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Sure, just give 'em a call, they'll set you up. The Moss plate kit eye bolt threads match those on the MB towing eye bolt.
sweet! i will give them a ring.
anyone know if the c55 bumper has this towing eye? i swear i never saw one even on my c230 amg bumper/
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 14cue
sweet! i will give them a ring.
anyone know if the c55 bumper has this towing eye? i swear i never saw one even on my c230 amg bumper/
it would be on the bumper impact strip, not the bumper itself.

Both on the C-Coupe and C-Sedan.

C55 however, is different front end than other C-Sedans, so I'm not sure on that one.


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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
it would be on the bumper impact strip, not the bumper itself.

Both on the C-Coupe and C-Sedan.

C55 however, is different front end than other C-Sedans, so I'm not sure on that one.
ahh, gotca. i think it's the same. i remember taking it off once and there wasnt a screw hole. maybe i have to look closer...
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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I covered the holes with bumper plugs. Doesn't look too bad..
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 04:20 AM
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My suggestion for all you folks in LA is to stay the hell away from metered parking near Little Tokyo. I just got a $25 first offense for failure to display front plates, and that was the ONLY reason I got a ticket -- the meter still had time on it; there were three squad cars in that area on what appeared to be meter maid duty, which is a waste of resources IMO.

I'm up for Flexible Service B next week, but I'm debating whether I should actually get my bumper drilled.

Do any other Cali residents know if it's OK to keep the plate inside on the dash (it's still being displayed up front) instead? I've been in AZ before, and I'd like to avoid putting a plate up front if I can. I know it's RTFStateLaws, but it's an interesting question that deserves discussion anyway.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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that bumperplug thing seems great, i think i will try it as well. When you purchase the plug, do they paint it for you or you have to do it yourself?
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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my car is silver, does anyone know what our silver named in MB?
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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my car is silver, does anyone know what our silver named in MB?
My car is iridium silver but you can probably check yours on the mb website
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Front License Plate HELP

Hey guys,
I just got a ticket for not having a front license plate, and I remember someone on this form was talking about have a front license mount that screwed into the front tow hitch of the car? i was wondering if anyone here can help me find that or shoot me in the right direction to get that license plate mount. ?

thx for the help.
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