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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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BIX Levelling???

I did a search before...

I read in other threads that after installing BIX we have to levelling them (no auto-levelling installed so...) I seached for pics of the levelling buttons and no luck, anyone knows where to find it?

We can do the alignment after installing the BIX rigth?
(I don't have the BIX, I ordered them)
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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I believe in EU the consideration is that you need to have AUTO levelling, thus no controls to the driver to adjust.

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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Its the same as you guys in US

After installing it, is no need to adjust nothing???
The beams are aligned???

How can we align it, so the ligth is pointing forward and to the rigth direction

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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In halogen headlamps exists this 2 adjusters (pic)

And in the BIX?
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Surely the xenons are auto leveling. Thats usually standard as if they were pointing up you would absolutely blind oncoming traffic. Thats why a lot of people get pissed at the riceys who get aftermarket HID and blind everybody because their lights are not auto leveling.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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amit1, hes talking about ordering just the bi-xenon set w/o the auto-leveling unit.

almost anyone who bought the bi-xenon non-stock without the auto-leveling just lives w/o it and adjusts the beam manually.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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almost anyone who bought the bi-xenon non-stock without the auto-leveling just lives w/o it and adjusts the beam manually
Yes,
and I want to know how to manually adjust the beam???

The BIX have those adjusters like in halogen headlights?
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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I would think that even if you buy the units and stick them on a non-lighting package car, the units themselves would have the leveling built in. Afterall the leveling is probably just done by moving the projectors up and down inside the lighting housing right?
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Young Doc
I would think that even if you buy the units and stick them on a non-lighting package car, the units themselves would have the leveling built in. Afterall the leveling is probably just done by moving the projectors up and down inside the lighting housing right?
your forgetting the lights them selfs need sensors to know what would be "level" so there is a sensor in the front and rear of the car. as indicated in the attachment. with out them how would the lights know what is level and what the proper adjustment. i assume you could have those sensors put in if you wanted to.. maybe. but honestly do you realy NEED auto leveling?
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Yes I know that, but HOW I ADJUST THE BEAM AFTER INSTALLING THE BIX???

Please, anyone knows? the pic I posted doesn't work for explanation?
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Yes I know that, but HOW I ADJUST THE BEAM AFTER INSTALLING THE BIX???

Please, anyone knows? the pic I posted doesn't work for explanation?
i dont know, ill tell you after Steve is out in may/june and installs mine

i would assume they are adjusted in the same manor as the non-BiX lights. seeing as lots of people install the BiX after they buy there cars. they have to beable to be adjusted in the same or similar manor. no sence in driving around with a light that points toward the moon
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gaiex
Its the same as you guys in US

After installing it, is no need to adjust nothing???
The beams are aligned???

How can we align it, so the ligth is pointing forward and to the rigth direction

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Actually, it's not the same as us guys in the US. We don't have regulations that mandate autolevelling on HID headlights.

But anyhow, you mentioned "LEVELLING" which is different than "ADJUSTING" so I wasn't clear.

Yes, the adjustments are the same as on the halogen headlights. Yes, you do need to adjust them after you install them (as you read in the other posts).

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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i would assume they are adjusted in the same manor as the non-BiX lights. seeing as lots of people install the BiX after they buy there cars. they have to beable to be adjusted in the same or similar manor. no sence in driving around with a light that points toward the moon
Yes, the adjustments are the same as on the halogen headlights. Yes, you do need to adjust them after you install them (as you read in the other posts).
I hope so

I just bougth a pair of Euro BIX for my coupe, after one year searching, very hard to find
And my FIRST MOD Yupiiiiiiiiiiii
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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nice. im getting my lights from steve.

i cant wait for them.. mmmmm.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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I got EURO Bi-X for my Sports Coupé about a year ago now, and US Bi-X for my wife's Sports Sedan last October, from Steve (MBenzNL), and he showed me very quickly how to level them, by flashing the lights at a wall from a set distance, then measuring the height. You adjust the up/down the same way as the Halogens, taking the same precautions that the screws don't come off, if you turn too much. Just do it slowly, and it helps to have someone help you to keep the measurements on equal sides the same.

Gaiex, remember, many of the features & options available in Europe may or may not be options in the US, or even required in the US. Such as auto-leveling. However, if you purchase an MB in the USA with Bi-X from the dealership you will get auto-leveling and head-lamp washers. If you retro-fit Bi-X, you will not have auto-leveling or washers. Not that it's impossible to add these, but very cost prohibitive, and not worth the hassle for the convenience (if any) that they provide.

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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My notes indicates auto-leveling is done also via the suspension but I am in the midst of a PC conversion and dont have access to the photos. THey were taken off this board or Benworld so you may want to browse these two engines. r-
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Gaiex, remember, many of the features & options available in Europe may or may not be options in the US, or even required in the US. Such as auto-leveling. However, if you purchase an MB in the USA with Bi-X from the dealership you will get auto-leveling and head-lamp washers. If you retro-fit Bi-X, you will not have auto-leveling or washers. Not that it's impossible to add these, but very cost prohibitive, and not worth the hassle for the convenience (if any) that they provide.
Thanks, I'm aware of it, I've been reading it here at MBworld
(here in Europe only the factory BIX have auto-leveling and washers like in US, this Mod is the same in Europe and US)

To level them, I don't need to have much work, I will go to a auto electrician, because they have a machine to see the beam direction/height, then is easy to level them, since is the same way as the Halogen headligths

Other question:
I can activate the Xenon present in DAS even if I don't have the BIX installed yet? rigth?
If not activated after the BIX being installed, they will "flick" when we turn the on ligths, but after that they will work fine, rigth?

Thanks again for your help

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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YES - you can set xenons to present before getting xenons

NO - xenons will not work properly after being installed without having the xenon set to present

YES - the bi xenons have the same adjustment bolts on the top - although the US spec bi xenons only have ONE of these 2 bolts accesible (the one that actually sets the height).

BEWARE that on the euromodel you will have to close the vacuumlines that currently go to the halogen headlights as you will get a vacuum leak if you don't

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Thanks STEVE,
Thats all I wanted to know

Sorry not buying you the BIX,after trying so much, but it looks like you don't have any set in stock!

BEWARE that on the euromodel you will have to close the vacuumlines that currently go to the halogen headlights as you will get a vacuum leak if you don't
I didn't know that, it looks like there are diferences between Euro ans US after all

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ive had two BiX units replaced because the autoleveling motors have gone out. save yourself the trouble, set it and forget it.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
ive had two BiX units replaced because the autoleveling motors have gone out.
...I have plenty of those in-headlight-levelling-motors...
Originally Posted by gaiex
Sorry not buying you the BIX,after trying so much, but it looks like you don't have any set in stock!
no worries

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this is a pic of the xenon, but the bixenon will have the knob at the same place.

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...I have plenty of those in-headlight-levelling-motors...
thanks steve, ill keep that in mind when my warranty is up
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Hi, I saw your posts on a different thread, but I thought you might be able to help me with some info from a tech CD. I would like to aim the headlights on my '02 C230 Coupe with the std. (not bi-xenon) lights. I was hoping that there are wall chart dimensinsons published somewhere. Like "x high, x apart with car x feet back from the wall aim beam here"
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Hi ****,

Unfortunately, MB does not produce any specs like that. The tool that is specified for aiming headlights is made by Bosch. This tool is primarily a fresnel lens (just like used in a lighthouse, only turned backwards) that focuses the beam down into a very small pattern which is then aimed against a target inside the tool itself. I wish I had a picture of it, I'm sure it would make more sense if I did.

One thing though, the US standard for headlights is a 1.3 degree downward slope, which is taken into account with the tool.

Your local dealer should have this tool, although I don't know how much they would charge to do the work. It only takes about 15 minutes at the most. The funny thing is that most dealers only think of this tool as used on Distronic sensor aiming rather than headlights as it was originally designed for.

I wish I had better news for you.

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