Saprissa

I would wait if it's an easy job. If not, do it now, and have them re-check the work during Service B.
I don't know how it is in EUROPE for Service B. But here in the USA, brake pads are not part of the 4-year MB Maintenance Commitment.

My Service Booklet specifically says:

"Wear items such as, but not limited to, engine belts, tire wear and rotation, wiper blades, wiper rubber inserts, brake discs, brake pads, brake pad wear sensors, clutch discs and clutch pressure plates are not covered by the Mercedes-Benz Maintenance Commitment."


Carlos

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gaiex

4 years??? We only have 2, the same as 2 years factory warranty

How many miles did you guys made with factory pads??? (I think I only need the front ones )

The brake discs wouldn't damage? I know when is no pad to brake its almost iron with iron, but I'm not getting noises or something yet, and I also have brake power...

r3v1ls

My front ones only lasted for 10k miles... which sucks. But i do live in LA with stop and go traffic 24/7. At 25k miles i'd get them changed in the coming weeks. I wouldn't take the risk of ruining the rotors... then it gets expensive

Saprissa

that's for sure. Mine are going on 15,000 miles now, and are just starting to squeal. The pad itself is not that badly worn, but the noise is annoying. It only happens on a slow stop, but it's still embarrassing when people look at you with a nice car (relatively speaking) and you're squealing like a private school co-ed, err... I mean squealing like a pig !

anyway, Gaiex, if you've still got good pad left, they are NOT squealing, and you've got good braking power; then I would have them check the brake sensors. They might have pulled off, and that's what is giving you the error message. Just ask them for a complete inspection and honest advice. Most dealers will just tell you that they need to be replaced. Since it is not a warranty item, they charge you a whole lot of $$$$ or EUROS in your case.

good luck, let us know how it goes !

Carlos

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Needing2knowDud

This topic has been already chatted about. USE the search FEATURE.

gaiex

Its strange, last week mines squealed 2 times and thats it, yesterday the ligth turn on and no squeal now

I will ask to check the sensors and brake pads, maybe one bad sensor, who knows (I haven't remembered this little detail yet)

(my dealer is at my home town, but I'm only there at the weekends, thats why I'm trying delaying the trip to the dealer :p )

Gregs210

Get it in now, don't wait unless you don't drive much. Once the warning goes on, you have less than 1,000 miles and that's if you're easy on the brakes.

If you wait for noise, you're buying rotors, too. MBZ rotors are not supposed to be turned, so you have to replace them if you gouge them up.

If you don't want to do it yourself then take it to an independent garage, you don't have to have it done by the dealer.

It's not a terribly difficult job, if you've done discs on other cars you won't find any surprises from your benz. I did a pictorial post on an E and it's very similar, search for thread 107227 if you want more info.

Sensors don't just come on and go off. If you get the warning it's because the pad has worn down and the rotor has worn the insulation off the sensor and closed the circuit. Go look at the pics with the post thread noted above, you'll see how little pad was left.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
Greg

Saprissa

Shut up IDIOT !

Saprissa

Good advice Greg.
There's also a sticky here in the W203 forum, or at least there used to be on changing brakes on the C-Coupé. Very helpful for the Do-It-Yourselfers !

gaiex

The ligth is not allways on, when I start to drive its off, but after some braking, not so few, it turns on.

Thanks guys for the info

Gregs210

The basic malfunction clears when you start the car, so once you get the warning it doesn't stay on or keep coming on, you just get the basic "malfunction" warning when you shut off the engine the next time. Then it's clear until you next drive it and step on the brake enough to short it again and it comes back on. If it stayed on or kept coming on every time you stepped on the brake you'd go crazy looking at it (as well as the little beep all the time).

Very soon it will come on the first time you stop after starting the car, and at some point (unless you get it done before then) you will get a second warning because you'll have revealed the sensor on the other wheel, so when that sensor shorts you'll get another warning. For a while you'll get the double warnings and then eventually when you step on the brake you'll only get one because both close their respective circuits simultaneously.

If you wait long enough, you'll grind off the end of the sensor, and then you'll never get another warning. At that point you're either grinding into the rotor or will be in just a few more stops.

If you do it yourself be sure to change the sensors. They're very cheap and particularly once you've ground one down enough to close the circuit, you'd probably break it trying to remove it from the pad.

Take care and enjoy stopping the ride,
Greg

mleskovar

Actually the 'sensor' is nothing more than a wire looped in a piece of plastic....when the loop wears through and opens (not shorts) you get the error. Be aware that not all wheels/C models/years have sensors on the same wheels. None have sensors on both back wheels that I have heard and some have a sensor on only one front wheel (as reported on this forum). You would be smart to check all wheels when the sensor light goes off. I had one pad with only .040" remaining and no error light.

amdeutsch

Oh Carlos........Wake up. (j/k) Did your confidential intelligences sources forget to mention this combo; Sticky link?

Saprissa

That would be it !!

and btw, Amdeutsch, you ARE my confidential intelligence source !!


Carlos

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erich

I bought a used 2002 C240 and I had the same problem. My brakes squeeled like a pig once in a while and I took it to the dealer and they said the the pads and rotors are fine.

Anyway, 2 months later the brake pad warning light popped on had just the pads replaced, the rotors weren't even cut, and its been 10,0000 miles with no squeeles.

You can have them put the paste on the pads but for a little more just have them change the pads.

Erich

gaiex

I think, maybe I'm going to install Brembo brake pads, this week I will resolve that out

rbardo

HEy Guys,

Ive been away for a while, so whats up?!

I was wondering if anyone could tell me the best priced place to order some OEM brake pads for my wizzer? I know evo is like $71 but Im thinking in the vicinity of $61....

Thanks Guys and hope all is well!


ps. my latest toy is a Triumph Speed Triple :v

PUREMS

Feel free to shoot us an email. We carry hundreds of stock replacement parts from brake pads to O2sensors, to belts.

rbardo

Hey thanks mate!

i just ordered from Evosport this afternoon though.. wasnt bad, actually happy with the price including shipping..

Ill look you up next time as I couldnt find your URL. :p

Buellwinkle

Is that MB only or other brands? I need pads for my Honda and Ford pretty soon.

victor20170

Does anybody know if the brake pads are covered under the 4 years/50k miles warranty. I just recently sold my my car to my friend, and she's telling me that the brakes are starting to squeak. I was under the impression that a light had to come up when it was time to change them. Can anybody confirm both questions? If they aren't cover under warranty, could anybody recommend a place to buy them online?

Thanks,

Victor

P.S. Keep in mind that the car has around 17k miles.

drexappeal

Nope. 2 things never/rarely covered under warranty (unless there was something majorly faulty with them - i.e. they go bad after 2 weeks of having the car) = tires and brake pads. I'm sure there are sponsors on this site that sell brake pads. You can also try searching the forum for "brake pads" and I'm sure there'll be a few threads that'll indicate where you can purchase pads.

As for the squeaking, this is common with all Mercedes brakes. Mine started squeaking after the first year. I think they sprayed some sort of solution to lessen the sound, however, it's still there every now and then. If the brake pads are low, the warning light will indicate such and that is when you know you will have to change them for sure. Best bet, if the car is still under the 4 year/50,000, is to have her bring the car in to have the brakes checked. If it's still under the warranty, having them check it will be free.

victor20170

Man that sucks. I am glad I got a BMW this time. Thanks for the info

Victor

drexappeal

Why? Does BMW cover brake pads under warranty? If so, I think they're the only company I've heard of to do that.

Saprissa

yeah, one of BMW's big marketing schemes directly aimed at Mercedes-Benz potential buyers is their FREE Maintenance package that also INCLUDES the "wear & tear" items that Mercedes doesn't do, even on their pre-2005 Free Maintenance Plans.

Look at a BMW commercial closely, and you'll see the jab they take at Mercedes every time by highlighting their free maintenance program !

sad but true !