MB Numbers are up for new C230!
09-19-2005, 10:36 AM
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MB Numbers are up for new C230!
Dont know if anyone has already posted this, but the numbers are up for the new c230 as far as performance is concerned. I cant remember what they were for the I4, but I'm sure somebody has em.
09-19-2005, 10:56 AM
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2005 C230 Sedan 6spd
Originally Posted by Humbucker87
thats what i thought.....so the increased hp numbers dont really do anything for the car I guess
Kompressor
Faster, better MPG! :p
09-19-2005, 12:44 PM
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'04 Mars Red C230K Sport Coupe (not Coup-EH)
Originally Posted by Jkw
Yea, I don't know why they gave up on that I4
Out of curiosity, what's going on in other markets, like in Europe where there are smaller displacements? Are they just using low comp/low displacement V6s or are they still putting out I4s? And is the 230 V6 the same engine as the 350, just lower spec?
09-19-2005, 01:47 PM
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C55 AMG, 135i, 911 GT3, GLE43 AMG
From an image/marketing point of view, a V6 sounds better for potential customers than a 4-banger which is supercharged. Also, Mercedes wants to push their new 4 valve per cylinder engines to replace their ancient 3 valve motors.
At BMW, the entry level 3 series is the 325 in North America, and that car also has a 6 cylinder engine.
At BMW, the entry level 3 series is the 325 in North America, and that car also has a 6 cylinder engine.
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09-19-2005, 04:35 PM
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gotcha....oh ya and BTW the other numbers are out too, I was just a little excited/biased towards the c230 numbers and I figured you guys had enough iniative to look em up yourselves.
09-19-2005, 05:55 PM
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2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie
From an image/marketing point of view, a V6 sounds better for potential customers than a 4-banger
THe new six is slower, gets significantly worse mileage, and it likely more expensive to machine and build. Two heads vs 1. 4 cams vs two. 24 valves vs 16...etc.. It all adds up. Remember, the supercharger is a purchased component, and everything else that goes with it as well. Simple, bolt on stuff. Low cost. Anything that's done in an MB factory is going to be expensive.
So glad I have the old 'crude' M111.
09-19-2005, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jedcred
Out of curiosity, what's going on in other markets, like in Europe where there are smaller displacements? Are they just using low comp/low displacement V6s or are they still putting out I4s?
Originally Posted by jedcred
And is the 230 V6 the same engine as the 350, just lower spec?
09-19-2005, 08:02 PM
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2006 c230
I'm still debating which to get, the 05 or the 06. I'm leaning towards the 06. I drove the 2006 and 2005 back to back both in Manual for 3 hours. It felt as if the 2006 was faster, more responsive, and struggled less up hills. The I4 also struggled when turning the A/C on. Another remark my father made was that the V6 is conventional and will have less problems in the long run, as opposed to the I4 which is a high tech 4 with a kompressor. He works for mercedes as a service manager and always hears of problems with the kompressor. Just my 2 cents.
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Are kompressor more prone to problems? 
Originally Posted by Ccoupe2006
I'm still debating which to get, the 05 or the 06. I'm leaning towards the 06. I drove the 2006 and 2005 back to back both in Manual for 3 hours. It felt as if the 2006 was faster, more responsive, and struggled less up hills. The I4 also struggled when turning the A/C on. Another remark my father made was that the V6 is conventional and will have less problems in the long run, as opposed to the I4 which is a high tech 4 with a kompressor. He works for mercedes as a service manager and always hears of problems with the kompressor. Just my 2 cents.
