Anti-Sway Bars R&D for C32/C240/C320/C230k
A bit of theory: W203, like many cars has 10 springs. Huh? Yes, you have coil spring in each corner, wheel and tire and what is called anti-sway or stabilizer bar on the front and in the rear.
We all know what coil springs do. It is the first thing we modify to improve handling and looks. This is what we did on our C32. We used H&R springs for C320 and they made a noticeable, yet comfortable, improvement in handling. Stock AMG shocks have no problem controlling these springs.
Now, wheels and tires. The size of the wheel, the sidewall stiffness of the tire and it's air pressure have a significant effect on car's handling. I will cover those in more detail next time, as we are getting ready to try 18s and 19s and judge their effect on handling.
Now, Anti-Sway Bars (ASB) or what also are known as stabilizer bars. ASB is what is called torsion spring. Their purpose is to keep, stabilize, car in side to side motion. C32 has 22 mm front bar and 16 mm rear bar. We made prototypes that are 24 mm in the front and 19 mm in the back. We did not want to go too big on the size. If the bars are too stiff, than the car starts to hunt on the freeway and turns nervous and choppy. Too make them more tunebale we made them 3-way adjustable on the front and 2-way adjustable in the back.
Here is the link to the front prototype:
Here is the rear:
By being able to change their rate, one can fine tune the suspension and set up the car for the track or the street, by simply moving ASB links. I will post more info on how ASB work later on.
I had them on my car for several days now and the car is noticeably more responsive with less roll through the corners. I took it over some pretty bad roads and it ran straight and true.
The bars will be powdercoated deep purple, our color and will come with new rubber bushings. First 25 sets should be ready by mid-August.
Thanks you for listening.
I'm very interested in this, can you quote me the price of the ASB? Or just the rough estimate.One more thing, regarding the suspension package, will it include everything? Spring, shock and ASB? Thank you and all the best on your research ... Go Vadim
rrf: Give me a week of playing with different settings and I will post more info.
Thank you for encouraging words everyone.
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[Band will come with new rubber bushings. [/B]
On my old car (not an MB) I just replace most of hte rubber bushing to plastic like polyuretain and it make a big improve on the car handling.
Number one. No one makes them for W203. Custom orders start at 1000 pieces and up. It is hard to sell a sway bar kit if bushings cost more to make than the bars themselves.
Number two. Need for lurication. Most MB owners do not want to think about it every 5-10K miles. At this time it is easier to modify factory bushings.
Their purpose is to keep, stabilize, car in side to side motion. C32 has 22 mm front bar and 16 mm rear bar. We made prototypes that are 24 mm in the front and 19 mm in the back. We did not want to go too big on the size. If the bars are too stiff, than the car starts to hunt on the freeway and turns nervous and choppy.
also, are you developing kits for the coupe as well?
Last edited by young; Jul 21, 2002 at 09:00 PM.
And, no we are not planning to make C-coupe kit.
Even if they don't, I think that you're probably missing the boat on the coupe, since that's probably going to have the highest % of owners who are willing to mod their suspensions. Good news for Kleemann, though.
Don't all c class cars have the same mounting points for the bars?
Even if they don't, I think that you're probably missing the boat on the coupe, since that's probably going to have the highest % of owners who are willing to mod their suspensions. Good news for Kleemann, though.
And, no we are not planning to make C-coupe kit.
your front sway bar is the same size, but the rear is a bit smaller.
evosports 24/19
kleemann/eibach 24/22
Thanks
Ben
why would someone pay more for your bars than the Eibach/Kleemann ones?
Not trying to start a fight, but the question's going to be asked sooner or later.
I think the price difference is due to that Evosports swar bars are adjustable, while the Kleemanns are not.
The KLEEMANN Sway Bars are adjustable on the Front only (2-way adjustability) Our bars are also a bit bigger in the rear- 22MM vs 19mm. Same size in the Front (24mm).
the kleemann's are 24/22mm
the evosports' are 24/19
are you kleemann/eibach?
Now that the smartass part of the answer is done, yes, he's with Kleemann; I think that I talked to him once. Though it seems like Brandon hogged all of the attention for himself in that Benzo article. :p
Count me in, if there's no good reason explained to us why I should consider the Evosport ones instead. Thanks.
Can you post dyno #s on the sways?


