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Old 08-02-2002, 05:56 AM
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Cold Air Intake for C230 sportcoupe... Anyone interested?

Hello everybody,
We are working on a cold air intake kit for C230 sportcoupe
The design is to place a cone type air filter in the right side bumper(behind the right fog lamp), which is similar with those cold air intake kit for Honda. And a replacement of the factory L shape plastic pipe between the intercooler and the mass air flow sensor.

The kit will be included:
-custom apdaptor from the supercharger outlet
-custom 2.5 inch 6061 alumium piping all the way to the filter
-custom apdaptor with filter element for the factory bleed off valve
-replacement L-shape pipe between the intercooler and the mass air flow sensor
-silicone joins
-and a cone type air filter

We are currently in testing stage, the kit will provide better throttle response, better mid-range torque and smoother high-rev power. It will also help the power lose problem in hot weather.

Please tell me is anyone interested in a group buy for the kit, more people in the group buy means lower price.

Picture and specification will be available soon.

E-mail me for a price quote or any information about the kit!
damon0721@hotmail.com


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Your going to need a Dyno to convince this crowd...and myself. I want some pics of what you have so far and some expected gains ... then a nice dyno chart and I am in, baring some reasonable pricing and good dyno
Old 08-02-2002, 08:44 AM
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yeah it will depend on dyno graphs mostly. Also if its for a mercedes I wouldnt make it some loud color like yellow or orange. I would make it a silver (not chrome) black or a carbon fiber would look good also.
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Any plans for a water bypass system like AEM's? I've got a cai on my crx, which doesn't see puddles, but if I'm going to buy a cai (other than the dyno results that enze mentioned), I'd need a water bypass or similar to feel safe enough to buy it.

Also, I'd recommend Orion Blue for the color; classy, and not boring like silver.
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Didn't someone only get like 2hp after doing some major airbox work at high cost?
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Yep...I Spent A LOT to GAIN 3hp! ...PIPERCROSS=JUNK!!!
Im Still working on one! ..New Air box!


Good LUCK on The REMOTE FILTER
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You gained HP with the Pipercross? I've heard a lot of stories going the other direction.
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Based on Evosport's dyno on my car there's 6hp and 2 ft-lb of torque to be gained with a proper intake.
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Originally posted by tommy
Any plans for a water bypass system like AEM's?
Hey tommy, if you have one of the early versions of AEM's water bypass - check their website, it's been recalled (part of it can break off and enter the motor - yikes!); they'll replace the offending part. Although, I suspect your's is probably as old as mine and doesn't have a bypass at all.

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Based on Evosport's dyno on my car there's 6hp and 2 ft-lb of torque to be gained with a proper intake.
My guess is that most of this can be gained by a good air filter. There is so much stuff between the intake and the head (supercharger, intercooler, associated piping, etc.) that not much power will be gained by a CAI, especially considering how much the supercharger will heat the air while compressing it. The best thing that can be done to cool the air entering the motor is not a CAI, but a more efficient intercooler. But we already knew that.

Later, BT

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If you make it i will buy it . but yea i want to see a picture of it first. something like silver, black, or carbon fiber BUT NOT BENZ EXPENSIVE!!! hey work on an intercooler while ur @ it
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Ideally can you make it in conjunction with a cowl induction hood or a shaker hood?
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BUT NOT BENZ EXPENSIVE!!! hey work on an intercooler while ur @ it

Hahaha yeah and can you also make a 2 stage bolt on nitrous cooled turbo system, while your at it.... and make it really inexpensive :p
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thx for the replies:p

We were testing the intake kit and upgrading it everyday...
Last night, in 17C of outside temperature, the coupe made 6.1s second of 0-60mph from the G-tech-pro and 14.8s in quarter miles.
Before the intake kit was installed, it was 6.6s 0-60mph and 15.2 in quarter miles.
Btw, the coupe was testing in not is stock form, It ran with a kleemann ring type pulley kit.

Dyno will be perform after the intake kit's R&D finished.
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You got a 1/2 second off 0-60 from an intake? You have to be careful with the G-Tech because because the conditions have to be identical, same road, same spot or variations in the road can throw your numbers off. Are you going to take it to a 1/4 mile track (or is that a 1/2 kilometer track?).
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I am very skeptacle ... I know its a benz but my integra never got that much boost by its intake and it was a AEM intake... does it kick in the Kompressor quicker having that much more air flow?
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The fact that the Integra saw smaller gains than they're describing for the C-coupe is most likely because the coupe has a supercharger that benefits much more from a CAI than a normal NA engine. All in all though, if you're fishing for big HP gains, the intake and/or pulley may whet your appetite, but you'll need a lot more than just one or two small mods. Say, headers, exhaust, chip, intercooler, and maybe even a engine or supercharger swap?
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The reason of the intake kit does such a big difference is because our design is not only replace the stock air box, we also replace the factory intake runner which is located between the air box and the supercharger inlet. It also bypass the return air from the bleed off valve. The hot air coming out from the bleed off valve cause the supercharger run hotter and hotter, the intake kit let the bleed off air to blow out, the supercharger always breath with fresh and cold air, so it makes the supercharger run efficiently. One down side of the intake kit is it bypass the factory sound reduction element for the supercharger, but for myself, I am quite enjoy with the shape sc sound it makes.
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Aha, that makes more sense. I'm more interested now.
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count me in...

I like it, depends on price tougth, I just paid for my wheels...
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I know, money just pours out. It's tough to compete with some of these rich guys. I'm now torn between spending $600 on a Remus muffler or lowering the car. Arghhh, if money was as easy to make as it is to spend. I'm hoping they price it right or I'll stick to my ITG airfilter.
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I'm now torn between spending $600 on a Remus muffler or lowering the car. Arghhh
you are comming around now. before you didn't want to have a lowered car again. lol... peer pressure???
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i cant wait till it start production. i want a different intake for my coupe, one that isnt just a drop in
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
I know, money just pours out. It's tough to compete with some of these rich guys. I'm now torn between spending $600 on a Remus muffler or lowering the car. Arghhh, if money was as easy to make as it is to spend. I'm hoping they price it right or I'll stick to my ITG airfilter.
come on man just do both.
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Still not satisfied on my research on lowering the car. I think the rear looks like it's sagging and I don't want to drop the rear as much as the front and then it gets more complicated. Then there's the issue of camber kits. MB makes them for the front but not the rear. I've heard conflicting info and some say it looks awful with the tires tilted in like that and some don't care. What I do care about is having tires that last their full life without having the inside tread worn quickly.I like the Kleemann kit because it doesn't lower as much as H&R and they are progressive rate springs so the ride will be better. I was wondering, has anyone looked into getting euro spec springs as the cars there seem lowered normally.
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Still not satisfied on my research on lowering the car. I think the rear looks like it's sagging and I don't want to drop the rear as much as the front and then it gets more complicated. Then there's the issue of camber kits. MB makes them for the front but not the rear. I've heard conflicting info and some say it looks awful with the tires tilted in like that and some don't care. What I do care about is having tires that last their full life without having the inside tread worn quickly.I like the Kleemann kit because it doesn't lower as much as H&R and they are progressive rate springs so the ride will be better. I was wondering, has anyone looked into getting euro spec springs as the cars there seem lowered normally.
when i first lowered my car the back was very high with the H&R springs, the back looked stock and people asked me if i only lowered the front. but then i had the #1 spring pads installed and now its tucking (not what u like) but i like and it looks perfect IMHO. So if u dont want the back low u can get the H&R springs with out #1 spring pads. I think the C7 and non C7 cars have different pads but if u dont have a #4 already u can get them (or buy my old ones) lol. and the back will not be to low At all. I have pics of that if u want. (i think).

Unfortinitly my C230k has almost 3000 miles and i see the outside of the tires are showing some wear. I gotta go have it alligned again and see what goin on. When i first had it alligned they had to replace the bushings but that was before i had the #1 pads put on. So a camber kit is not always neccisary. Usually the bushing can get replaced to help u with negative camber.

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