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Old 04-27-2006, 03:23 PM
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New BMW 335i Coupe... Not bad.

Sorry if ya'll already discussed this car, I just found out about it:

http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/futur...source=3COUFMA

Looks good AND has a 300HP twin turbo six cylinder... Anyway, looks like really good competition to our C350s. I still don't like bimmer interiors though.

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Maybe I'm nuts but wasn't BMW anti forced induction?

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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Maybe I'm nuts but wasn't BMW anti forced induction?

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you're not nuts, they've been anti-FI in the past, often critical of other manufacturers of using superchargers and turbochargers. I guess things are different when the HP wars start to heat up. Lexus (toyota), MB, Infiniti, Acura, all have larger displacement 6-cylinders that produce more HP than even the newest BMW powerplants.
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often critical of other manufacturers of using superchargers and turbochargers.
Yeah, that's what I remember. Talk about not putting your money where your mouth is. So, it's going to essentially be a first generation product for a company using (for them) pretty new technology. Lemon Alert.

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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Yeah, that's what I remember. Talk about not putting your money where your mouth is. So, it's going to essentially be a first generation product for a company using (for them) pretty new technology. Lemon Alert.

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I thought they were Anti-Design too? Oh wait....they still are.
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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Yeah, that's what I remember. Talk about not putting your money where your mouth is. So, it's going to essentially be a first generation product for a company using (for them) pretty new technology. Lemon Alert.

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Originally Posted by e1000
you're not nuts, they've been anti-FI in the past, often critical of other manufacturers of using superchargers and turbochargers. I guess things are different when the HP wars start to heat up. Lexus (toyota), MB, Infiniti, Acura, all have larger displacement 6-cylinders that produce more HP than even the newest BMW powerplants.
I don't think BWW has made a forced induction engine since the 2002 waaaay back in teh disco years
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The back of that car is so ugly that I just threw up in my mouth...
LMAO! In another note...are BMW's generally better in terms of quality? Or about the same with MB? When I was shopping for a car, I test drove the E90 325i with the Sport Package, and it handled great....honestly the only reason I got my C was because I really hated the way it looked.

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I don't think BWW has made a forced induction engine since the 2002 waaaay back in teh disco years
Your right, I looked it up. 1973, and none since...or prior.

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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Maybe I'm nuts but wasn't BMW anti forced induction?

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BMW isn't anti FI ... they been making turbo desiels for a while ... just bmw m division is anti FI
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Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
The back of that car is so ugly that I just threw up in my mouth...
at least it looks better than sedan's...
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
LMAO! In another note...are BMW's generally better in terms of quality? Or about the same with MB? When I was shopping for a car, I test drove the E90 325i with the Sport Package, and it handled great....honestly the only reason I got my C was because I really hated the way it looked.
From what I've seen, BMW and MB is about even. different problems but both have thier fair share. Buddy of mine had a E46 M3 that had a lot of little issues and one big issue.
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With two twin turbos imagine what just a chip upgrade could do !. The old Audi S4's with the TT 6cylinder were so easily tunable just cause you could put the boost up through the ECU.
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oh man...

now just waiting for the W204 C350 coupes...

which is in like 2 years or so?
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Originally Posted by LDNA
BMW isn't anti FI ... they been making turbo desiels for a while ... just bmw m division is anti FI
Yeah, sorry, there hasn't been US desiels from them in many years...didn't realize those were turbos.

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Originally Posted by e1000
From what I've seen, BMW and MB is about even. different problems but both have thier fair share. Buddy of mine had a E46 M3 that had a lot of little issues and one big issue.
Yeah, I have a buddy of mine that's a huge BMW fan, and he keeps giving me crap about "You should've gotten an E90" and "BMW's don't have problems". I wish he would get an E90 just so he can see for himself what tiny annoyances it'll bring up. I was over at Bimmerfest.com and was looking at the E90 threads, and I see all sorts of the same issues MB's have.

Totally OT, but is anyone else getting tired of hearing about how great the M5 is?
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at least it looks better than sedan's...

But still no looker. Gawd. The old 3 Coupe was a very classy design...why this was considered a step forward is beyond me.

Oh well...another ugly german car. VW and BMW will have lots of company when MB rolls out the Acura C-Class design in a few months....
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But still no looker. Gawd. The old 3 Coupe was a very classy design...why this was considered a step forward is beyond me.

Oh well...another ugly german car. VW and BMW will have lots of company when MB rolls out the Acura C-Class design in a few months....
yeah the E46 was instantly striking... I thought it was a beautiful car the first time I looked at it.
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hope i dont get a beatdown for this but BMW>MB!!!...

the new E92's are gonna be monsters!!! 300hp twin turbo...and i think with a couple mods on that car it will unleash a whole new monster with those turbo's...
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Originally Posted by robohopar
hope i dont get a beatdown for this but BMW>MB!!!...

the new E92's are gonna be monsters!!! 300hp twin turbo...and i think with a couple mods on that car it will unleash a whole new monster with those turbo's...
huh? I'm sorry, all I saw was your sig
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Nobody mentioned how quickly BMW M3 cars burn out and have to have large drivetrain parts replaced.

In terms of quality, both are quite evenly matched, they're both pretty bad. According to J.D. Power and Associates, BMW scored a better score in lack of small problems than Mercedes. Ironically, Jaguar beat Mercedes as well.

Now, before we start spiraling into the Mercedes problems, I do have to say one thing. Mercedes, in general, still looks much better than BMWs do today. BMWs of today look a bit weirder, to say the least. Their sharp creases enhance the muscular structure of the car but reduction in curvatures makes it look almost too masculine.

Keep in mind, in the long run, Mercedes-Benz vehicles last longer (drivetrain and transmission wise). I would say Mercedes-Benz is a better investment for those planning to keep their cars for a long time. However, in the short run, BMW might be a good answer.

That's my two cents.
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is it just me, or does the car just look ALOT longer? I dont like the way that bmw is going w/ their new line of cars... cept for the z4 and the 6 series.. :x sure this thing will be powerful though.


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