MB C230 or Lexus IS250 (now I'm not so sure)
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As of May 15th: 2006 C230 Black on Black
Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
Congrats on your choice...Now lets hear the colors and options! Sorry Patric and I turned your thread into a Ferrari discussion last night!!
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I am going with Black on Black. The options will be sunroof package; power seat and column memory; folding seats; bi-xenon's; entertainment package with 6 disc; automatic tranny (i have random back trouble and changing the gears would be hard on it); and ill get the ipod hookup.
I told them to not wax it when it comes in, just more work for me to do to strip it. I haven't made up my mind on door sills or anything. For now, this is enough.
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Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
Congrats on your choice...Now lets hear the colors and options! Sorry Patric and I turned your thread into a Ferrari discussion last night!!
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Originally Posted by dozier08
No sweat. You can't beat a Ferrari.
I am going with Black on Black. The options will be sunroof package; power seat and column memory; folding seats; bi-xenon's; entertainment package with 6 disc; automatic tranny (i have random back trouble and changing the gears would be hard on it); and ill get the ipod hookup.
I told them to not wax it when it comes in, just more work for me to do to strip it. I haven't made up my mind on door sills or anything. For now, this is enough.
I am going with Black on Black. The options will be sunroof package; power seat and column memory; folding seats; bi-xenon's; entertainment package with 6 disc; automatic tranny (i have random back trouble and changing the gears would be hard on it); and ill get the ipod hookup.
I told them to not wax it when it comes in, just more work for me to do to strip it. I haven't made up my mind on door sills or anything. For now, this is enough.
2005 Blk/blk
sunroof package
entertainment package
lighting package
and autmatic transmission
Since this car is used as a commuter car, I really wished that it had a fold down rear trunk, sometimes when i buy something of larger size that would've been nice.
Right now, I also wished I had ordered the car (this car was bought off the lot rather than ordered) and had gotten the fold down rear seats and the memory driver seat. Whenever my domestic staff at the house drives the car, I always have to change the seat setting. Gets annoying after a while. Plus it's difficult to find that sweet spot.
The 2006 model doesn't come with rear side impact airbags, I'd get them even though I rarely have people in the back of any car, much less a C Class.
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
Take that Lexus!
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Originally Posted by dozier08
I want to get a car I can keep for a long time and want to make a good investment.
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As of May 15th: 2006 C230 Black on Black
Originally Posted by jan ken po
I cringe everytime i read something like this. 95% of the time, a car is never an investment. Your looking to make a good choice, not investment.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
You really should take that Lexus. I don't think buying a euro car that's in the last year of production is a good move. Sure it looks great now but euro cars age pretty quickly once a redesign takes place regardless of whether the new body style looks good or not. Japanese cars don't really have that issue. Reference the RSX vs last generation Integra. However, I do agree that the IS windows are small and you do feel pretty cramped in there. The C-class has more room but not by much as both cars can pass for 4dr 2 seaters if you're over 6' tall.
And to this day I STILL think the E36 and E46 looks great! Timeless design.
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
Wow Ling, I think I actually disagree. I think it's the other way around.....for some reason I think Euro cars age much better than Japanese cars. A W202 still looks good to me, compared to the last generation TL, IS, ES, etc. The only car I think still looks hot is a 95 Supra Turbo.
And to this day I STILL think the E36 and E46 looks great! Timeless design.
And to this day I STILL think the E36 and E46 looks great! Timeless design.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Well the topic is subjective but I do remember a topic when I was discussing the S-Class and how even the smallest of changes makes the previous year models look dated. I used to own a '99 E36 M3 and that was the last year of production. Once the E46's came around it no longer appealed to me. I agree with you that the W202's still look good but only the AMG models because they're so rare.
I would also much rather buy a european car (or any car) at the end of it's product cycle than in the begining. Look at the reliability ratings on any car and you'll see that even Lexus irons out small issues early in a product cycle. Case in point, the new Camry and it's automatic transmission already has a recall on it.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Well the topic is subjective but I do remember a topic when I was discussing the S-Class and how even the smallest of changes makes the previous year models look dated. I used to own a '99 E36 M3 and that was the last year of production. Once the E46's came around it no longer appealed to me. I agree with you that the W202's still look good but only the AMG models because they're so rare.
Sometimes when I see a 1990 Lexus LS400 driving around, I'm thinking WOW that looks OLD!
Blah, it's all subjective!
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
I agree with you on the AMG models and the rarity of them that makes them appealing.
Sometimes when I see a 1990 Lexus LS400 driving around, I'm thinking WOW that looks OLD!
Blah, it's all subjective!
Sometimes when I see a 1990 Lexus LS400 driving around, I'm thinking WOW that looks OLD!
Blah, it's all subjective!
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Regardless of whichever car you get, the IS250 or the C230, both are just great cars.
Just get one or the other, keep in mind, since both cars are so similiar in handling and performance, try to go for the one that you can get that's less expensive. I would personally seriously consider the Lexus since the ownership of Lexus is less expensive.
Whichever one you get, don't look back. Regrets are a waste of time.
Just get one or the other, keep in mind, since both cars are so similiar in handling and performance, try to go for the one that you can get that's less expensive. I would personally seriously consider the Lexus since the ownership of Lexus is less expensive.
Whichever one you get, don't look back. Regrets are a waste of time.
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Lexus has had great successes in America but it is struggling elsewhere: in Europe and Japan.
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Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
Why in this picture does the car 1 have climatronic, and 2 have only 2 switches on the left door (windows) ?
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Originally Posted by e1000
Gotta disagree with you on this one as well. IMO, japanese cars look dated much quicker than thier european counterparts.
I would also much rather buy a european car (or any car) at the end of it's product cycle than in the begining. Look at the reliability ratings on any car and you'll see that even Lexus irons out small issues early in a product cycle. Case in point, the new Camry and it's automatic transmission already has a recall on it.
I would also much rather buy a european car (or any car) at the end of it's product cycle than in the begining. Look at the reliability ratings on any car and you'll see that even Lexus irons out small issues early in a product cycle. Case in point, the new Camry and it's automatic transmission already has a recall on it.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
You really should take that Lexus. I don't think buying a euro car that's in the last year of production is a good move. Sure it looks great now but euro cars age pretty quickly once a redesign takes place regardless of whether the new body style looks good or not. Japanese cars don't really have that issue. Reference the RSX vs last generation Integra. However, I do agree that the IS windows are small and you do feel pretty cramped in there. The C-class has more room but not by much as both cars can pass for 4dr 2 seaters if you're over 6' tall.
Nissan is the only one of the asian makes with some styling muscle. Its not always pretty(FX), but its distinctive.
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Originally Posted by e1000
a 1990 Lexus LS400 IS old
I realize that going against the grain on a car forum isn't always well received. You guys get my respect for handling it in a mature manner unlike a specific BMW forum (I won't say no names) where it would have been a full blast flame war already.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
I realize that going against the grain on a car forum isn't always well received. You guys get my respect for handling it in a mature manner unlike a specific BMW forum (I won't say no names) where it would have been a full blast flame war already.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
I realize that going against the grain on a car forum isn't always well received. You guys get my respect for handling it in a mature manner unlike a specific BMW forum (I won't say no names) where it would have been a full blast flame war already.
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Originally Posted by e1000
life's wayyyy too short to get involved in a flame war. A lot of people have a tendancy to get worked up on forums, especially over thier cars. I think the root of it is that they don't want to feel like they've spent a lof of money on something when another car may have been better. Some people seeem more prone to this than others and there are some here as well (really not trying to point anyone out). At the end of the day, we all need to remember that car companies wouldn't make different cars if there weren't different people that like different things. I think people need to just be happy about what they have and be confident about thier purchase.
Well.....the 997TT and Zonda F are perfect to me.
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Originally Posted by e1000
life's wayyyy too short to get involved in a flame war. A lot of people have a tendancy to get worked up on forums, especially over thier cars. I think the root of it is that they don't want to feel like they've spent a lof of money on something when another car may have been better. Some people seeem more prone to this than others and there are some here as well (really not trying to point anyone out). At the end of the day, we all need to remember that car companies wouldn't make different cars if there weren't different people that like different things. I think people need to just be happy about what they have and be confident about thier purchase.
Had a friend who bought the 2004 G35 Coupe. First got it in auto. His friends ridiculed him. Less than a month later, he brought it back to the dealership and he traded it for a manual. Damage to the wallet of only $1k.
A car is just a car.
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
Well said my friend! And I've come to the conclusion there really isn't a perfect car.
Well.....the 997TT and Zonda F are perfect to me.
Well.....the 997TT and Zonda F are perfect to me.
I'm not the best manual driver myself, and thus you'd expect me to buy a manual, but since Porsches are usually manual cars (for obvious reasons), I'm actually thinking that I would actually seriously consider the automatic despite lots of question asking.
