W203/CL203 City Light Thread (LED, HID, bulbs) - All you want to know

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Apr 4, 2008 | 08:04 PM
  #976  
Quote: G, the halogen high beam bulbs (h7) shouldn't be dual filament and since you're running HID high beams, that I'm assuming are running fine, I don't think that's the problem.

Strange that the city lights have 2 ground wires. Did you test to make sure that they're both ground wires w/ a multi-meter or voltmeter?

What did you use to tap into the parking lights? T-tap or barrell connector?Only thing I can think of is the connector is lost connection with the wires, so it's not identifying the resistor.
drex,

I tap them in with splicers. I tried putting a standard 168/194 bulb into it, and its fine.

I think I'm sick of dealing with LEDs and resistors, I think I'm gonna find an alternate source for bi-x matching city lights!
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Apr 4, 2008 | 08:26 PM
  #977  
Quote: drex,

I tap them in with splicers. I tried putting a standard 168/194 bulb into it, and its fine.

I think I'm sick of dealing with LEDs and resistors, I think I'm gonna find an alternate source for bi-x matching city lights!
T-tap splicers (the ones that look like a t and then fold over with the small metal piece that cuts through the plastic covering on the wires)?

Either way, I never bothered with the LED city lights because there's so little room to work back there and too much of a PITA to take the headlights out just to do it. My city lights lasted 3 1/2 years (PIAA Extreme whites) before I finally had to replace one of them last year. I ended up switching both of them with Raybrigs, which aren't as "white" looking, but close enough.

With the yellow fogs, it doesn't look as unmatching, so I've been happy.
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Apr 4, 2008 | 08:59 PM
  #978  
Get some Rosco Colorine #80 blue bulb dye and dip your W5W or 168 (194 is too dim) lamps in it. The bulbs will look blue, but burn near the color of HID lamps.

http://www.rosco.com/us/scenic/colorine_color_chips.asp

In Manhattan, step into Bulbtronics at 9th & 49th to pick some Rosco Colorine up. Cool store if you want some unusual light bulbs.
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Apr 4, 2008 | 09:19 PM
  #979  
Quote: Get some Rosco Colorine #80 blue bulb dye and dip your W5W or 168 (194 is too dim) lamps in it. The bulbs will look blue, but burn near the color of HID lamps.

http://www.rosco.com/us/scenic/colorine_color_chips.asp

In Manhattan, step into Bulbtronics at 9th & 49th to pick some Rosco Colorine up. Cool store if you want some unusual light bulbs.
thanks for the input! but I think i'll pass.

I think I might remove my city lights. lol I actually dont like em on.
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Apr 4, 2008 | 10:30 PM
  #980  
previous owner of my car installed these...they match 8000K HIDs perfectly.
They are regular filament bulbs...he said he bought them when he was in HK

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Apr 4, 2008 | 10:50 PM
  #981  
Quote: previous owner of my car installed these...they match 8000K HIDs perfectly.
They are regular filament bulbs...he said he bought them when he was in HK

thanks rob,

I dont think I want anything "too blue"

I'm not sure if I wanna spit up that $20 for stupid PIAA bulbs.
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Apr 4, 2008 | 10:50 PM
  #982  
BTW,

you guys with BIX

how many brown and grey wires are attached to your city lights?
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Apr 5, 2008 | 04:20 AM
  #983  
The parking lamps (sometimes called city lights) are the same wedge based lamps in either type of car, incandescent or HID. The lamps are W5W, which means "Wedge, 5 Watts." American spec lamp 168 is very close to this, but rated just a little less wattage than European spec bulb. The lamp is controlled by the front SAM in the same manner. A transistor turns the lamp on and off. There is a small resistor in the SAM that allows the controller in the SAM to read the lamp current. If the value read is very far from 5 watts, you get an error message because the front SAM thinks the bulb has a defect.

German cars generally use brown wires as ground. They are most often connected to terminal 31 on relays. I'll look at my wiring diagram (unrolling now) ahhh, The side light/Parking light E1e3 (left) and E2e3 (right) have two brown wires to one lamp terminal. These connect to ground W9 on the left, and W16/4 on the right.

The front SAM feeds +12 volts to the left lamp on a gray/black wire. The right lamp is fed with a gray/red wire.

The brown wires must all be connected to ground. The reason there are two brown wires is it the lamp socket is being used as a tie point to allow just one wire to be connected to ground.
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Apr 5, 2008 | 07:24 AM
  #984  
Quote: The parking lamps (sometimes called city lights) are the same wedge based lamps in either type of car, incandescent or HID. The lamps are W5W, which means "Wedge, 5 Watts." American spec lamp 168 is very close to this, but rated just a little less wattage than European spec bulb. The lamp is controlled by the front SAM in the same manner. A transistor turns the lamp on and off. There is a small resistor in the SAM that allows the controller in the SAM to read the lamp current. If the value read is very far from 5 watts, you get an error message because the front SAM thinks the bulb has a defect.

German cars generally use brown wires as ground. They are most often connected to terminal 31 on relays. I'll look at my wiring diagram (unrolling now) ahhh, The side light/Parking light E1e3 (left) and E2e3 (right) have two brown wires to one lamp terminal. These connect to ground W9 on the left, and W16/4 on the right.

The front SAM feeds +12 volts to the left lamp on a gray/black wire. The right lamp is fed with a gray/red wire.

The brown wires must all be connected to ground. The reason there are two brown wires is it the lamp socket is being used as a tie point to allow just one wire to be connected to ground.

wow! thanks for the info dude.

I think I know what the issue is. first I need to remove the HID kit. more space to work with.
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Apr 5, 2008 | 08:06 PM
  #985  
Quote: with that sound don't u ever get pulled over?
trying to jinx me bro? *knock on wood

i'm scared, i ain't gon lie, haah. but i try to keep it down, yet sometimes i just feel like stomping it and hear music that roars. oh well, cross my fingers!

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Apr 5, 2008 | 08:11 PM
  #986  
sweet mods man way to go
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Apr 6, 2008 | 02:48 AM
  #987  
dude lemme come hear it in person before you get a FIX-IT ticket man!!
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Apr 6, 2008 | 03:27 AM
  #988  
go to the muffler shop again and adjust the tips higher...other than that
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Apr 6, 2008 | 04:30 AM
  #989  
Next time you do a video I can help you hold the camera! It sucks to let it on the floor!
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Apr 6, 2008 | 05:18 AM
  #990  
Good stuff man! Sac in the house!
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Apr 7, 2008 | 03:27 AM
  #991  
Quote: sweet mods man way to go
thanks, yours is looking great also!
Quote: dude lemme come hear it in person before you get a FIX-IT ticket man!!
diew, don't jinx me pok gai! come to sac over the summer, cuz i ain't gonna be back up north till summertime
Quote: go to the muffler shop again and adjust the tips higher...other than that
thanks frank, i was going to get it done at speedway, but i was short on time.. can't miss class because the prof marks me down for no attendance.. biznitch!
Quote: Next time you do a video I can help you hold the camera! It sucks to let it on the floor!
haha, i know right? but i had a shoebox in the car for the second video you never did tell me; do you live in elk grove? and if so, where?
Quote: Good stuff man! Sac in the house!
NorCal represent...
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Apr 8, 2008 | 03:41 AM
  #992  
Yep Elk Grove... take me less than 5min to get to that highschool you were talking about ... on Power Inn right?
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Apr 8, 2008 | 09:00 AM
  #993  
Quote: Yep Elk Grove... take me less than 5min to get to that highschool you were talking about ... on Power Inn right?
yup haha
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Apr 8, 2008 | 09:39 PM
  #994  
is it me or are the tips sticking out a little too much?

WOT video!
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Apr 8, 2008 | 09:41 PM
  #995  
Quote: is it me or are the tips sticking out a little too much?

WOT video!
are they really sticking out too much? i think they are hanging down a little, but i'll get htat corrected in a bit. the shop was using the old hangers so iduno
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May 13, 2008 | 07:45 PM
  #996  
updated 5/13/08
okay, so some of you guys know i got the LED C Tails, and i couldn't been happier. the LED's are still working fine, i'll update as time goes by.

i got my inspiration from Beaver's Benz, and i also did my tails like him. i liked how it looked on his car, and i like it on mine also! didn't turn out as bad as i thought. w221-kinda ftw!

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May 13, 2008 | 07:53 PM
  #997  
looks good
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May 13, 2008 | 09:11 PM
  #998  
looks good! i love how the tails look from a distance! maybe you should tint out the white too, like how frank had his!
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May 13, 2008 | 11:56 PM
  #999  
Quote: looks good! i love how the tails look from a distance! maybe you should tint out the white too, like how frank had his!
i like it too. but i like the white, so no tinting that. i wanna tint the red just a little though, so it could be cherryish. any advice?
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May 13, 2008 | 11:57 PM
  #1000  
Quote: i like it too. but i like the white, so no tinting that. i wanna tint the red just a little though, so it could be cherryish. any advice?
a few light coats of vht nite shades....i have like over a dozen coats on each of my taillights to give you an idea...
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