Johnand's 2007 C230 thread
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2200 is not even a down payment these days. Sucks, but it shouldn't be enough to throw in the towel. Besides, you just were made a moderator; you wouldn't want the boys to remove you if you get a non-Benz, before you've even abused your mod authorities yet, would you?
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On the other hand, if there is a good time to start abusing those your authority it's right now!
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After some phone calls, crunching some numbers, and calming down some, I decided I am not going to throw in the towel yet. Tommy is right, $2200 won't put much dent in a newer car. Bottom line is, the car is paid off, and car payments suck.
So, the dealer and MB weren't very helpful. I discussed the DTB's and was trying to get MB to fix this as a goodwill gesture, or help with some of the costs, but they won't budge.
I called Hartmann Motors and discussed it, and they think it can be fixed w/o a whole valve body replacement. But, after more discussion, I decided to just keep driving it at this point, and see if the problem returns. As I understand it, at this time, it is only a soft fault. So, if or when it returns, I will take it to Hartmann to get it taken care of.
So, you all will have to deal with my mod powers for a while longer
So, the dealer and MB weren't very helpful. I discussed the DTB's and was trying to get MB to fix this as a goodwill gesture, or help with some of the costs, but they won't budge.
I called Hartmann Motors and discussed it, and they think it can be fixed w/o a whole valve body replacement. But, after more discussion, I decided to just keep driving it at this point, and see if the problem returns. As I understand it, at this time, it is only a soft fault. So, if or when it returns, I will take it to Hartmann to get it taken care of.
So, you all will have to deal with my mod powers for a while longer
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Drove home yesterday the 36 miles, and the car shifted like butter, as usual, and had no weird noises or smells.
Plugged in STAR and got code 2767: The signal from component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) is not available. Remedy: Replace Electrohydraulic control unit. Are you F-in kidding me?!?!?! Replace the whole valve body assembly for a $1 hall sensor! Good old MB German engineering.
Not sure what I am going to do at this point. Local dealer wants $2200 to fix
Plugged in STAR and got code 2767: The signal from component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) is not available. Remedy: Replace Electrohydraulic control unit. Are you F-in kidding me?!?!?! Replace the whole valve body assembly for a $1 hall sensor! Good old MB German engineering.
Not sure what I am going to do at this point. Local dealer wants $2200 to fix
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John, even if you need to replace that sensor, dropping the pan, dropping the valve-body is not that difficult. If you like the car and you are planning to keep the car for a while, I'd say go ahead and replace part - you have all the resources and tools and the support from this forum members :-)
It's been couple of weeks since I have checked-in here. I sold my '04 C320 and I bought a BMW '06 530i.
It's been couple of weeks since I have checked-in here. I sold my '04 C320 and I bought a BMW '06 530i.
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just outta curiousity why 2200? How much is the part? I have an 07 with 40K miles now. It does shift hard. I brought it to the dealer multiple times and they said its nothing.. its normal... they readapted the transmission again? My car is out of warranty now and I've done my research and I know for sure its the valve body. Does it need a star system once its replaced? And is that Part called the valve body electrical plate?
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Jeeze, I though the 2007 models had this crap sorted out. I don't like the idea of having a car that can cost me $2200 at the drop of a sensor. I've been thinking about selling my 50k mile C350 for a few other reasons. This just adds more reason to think about it.
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The one you just bought? And for multiple reasons?
The 2007s do have things mostly worked out but, like Glyn will say, $h!t happens. It could happen to any car.
The 2007s do have things mostly worked out but, like Glyn will say, $h!t happens. It could happen to any car.
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I had my valve body replaced under warranty. Dealer was being a jerk about it. Had to take it in 4 times before they finally did it. Their excuse is always adaptations.
Don't fall for it.
Don't fall for it.
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Yep, Glyn is right again. You can visit any forum dedicated to a specific car no matter how reliable/well built they are known to be and you will be afraid. Few people do what I do and post stories of things that are going well.
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John, even if you need to replace that sensor, dropping the pan, dropping the valve-body is not that difficult. If you like the car and you are planning to keep the car for a while, I'd say go ahead and replace part - you have all the resources and tools and the support from this forum members :-)
It's been couple of weeks since I have checked-in here. I sold my '04 C320 and I bought a BMW '06 530i.
It's been couple of weeks since I have checked-in here. I sold my '04 C320 and I bought a BMW '06 530i.
just outta curiousity why 2200? How much is the part? I have an 07 with 40K miles now. It does shift hard. I brought it to the dealer multiple times and they said its nothing.. its normal... they readapted the transmission again? My car is out of warranty now and I've done my research and I know for sure its the valve body. Does it need a star system once its replaced? And is that Part called the valve body electrical plate?
I think it is all relative though. Since I have had extremely reliable vehicles lately, the MB gets a little unfairly judged because of that.
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I don't think you're being unfair about it. The car has had an unacceptable number both in repairs and in dollars for a car of its caliber, age, and mileage.
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I gotta say John, I'm scared #$%&less! I am hoping to be able to end run some of the problems that you've had, but I know you have taken care of your 230... I my CPS solenoids finally shipped today, so I should be able to do that next weekend. The intermittent CEL has been annoying me to no end. I think your plan to see if it was just a fluke before you pull the trigger on $2200 is smart. I'm sure you'll keep us informed.
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No, because it has to be online SCN coded, and as far as I know clone systems, can't SCN code. Do you have the ability to SCN code?
I gotta say John, I'm scared #$%&less! I am hoping to be able to end run some of the problems that you've had, but I know you have taken care of your 230... I my CPS solenoids finally shipped today, so I should be able to do that next weekend. The intermittent CEL has been annoying me to no end. I think your plan to see if it was just a fluke before you pull the trigger on $2200 is smart. I'm sure you'll keep us informed.
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I agree with John - There are a hell of a lot of 722.9 transmissions out there now - some in the very high miles already without giving a moment of trouble. Lets hope it was just an electronic glitch that corrupted the speed sensor data.
Imagine the trouble one would have if Microsoft wrote the TCU software!
Imagine the trouble one would have if Microsoft wrote the TCU software!
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I agree with John - There are a hell of a lot of 722.9 transmissions out there now - some in the very high miles already without giving a moment of trouble. Lets hope it was just an electronic glitch that corrupted the speed sensor data.
Imagine the trouble one would have if Microsoft wrote the TCU software!
Imagine the trouble one would have if Microsoft wrote the TCU software!
I'm feeling better about my C230, I just become a worry wart every time I read about John's issues (as if they are going to be the same problems I'll face), as long as my car doesn't go into limp mode on my way back from East Texas I should be OK!
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John - I can't wait to see the 4 year summary. Hopefully this was a software glitch.
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Microsoft isn't that bad... my MacBook Pro has been flaking out the past couple of days, and I'm about ready to throw it at the wall. Of course with the aluminum uni-body case it would probably do more damage to the wall than to the MacBook...
I'm feeling better about my C230, I just become a worry wart every time I read about John's issues (as if they are going to be the same problems I'll face), as long as my car doesn't go into limp mode on my way back from East Texas I should be OK!
I'm feeling better about my C230, I just become a worry wart every time I read about John's issues (as if they are going to be the same problems I'll face), as long as my car doesn't go into limp mode on my way back from East Texas I should be OK!
Then I also had a plan macbook new model get dropped on concrete from about 10 feet then somersault a few times then fall in a pool and sink to the bottom. Funny part is the guy thought that since it was a mac i could recover data from the HDD even though it was still dripping water.
People of MBWORLD PLEASE BACK UP YOUR COMPUTERS NOW!!!!!
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Just wanted to update my thread, as I have had some inquires about what happened to the transmission. So, I have driven over 7K miles since the transmission acted up, and the problem has yet to return. So far, I would say it was an software/electrical hiccup. Though, I am not 100% convinced it won't happen again.
On to my latest problem. As seen in the thread that Glyn posted info on the cooling fan, I am having issues with the cooling fan not kicking on which throws a code, indicated by a thermometer on the MFD, and causes the car to heat up. Worst temp I have seen is 95 degrees C. Normally runs right at 80 degrees C. Unplugged the connector to the fan assembly to check for corrosion on the connector, and it was spotless. Reconnected and drove the car for a bit. Problem continuing to happen, so I ordered a new fan assembly. Searched high and low and settled on the OEM one from parts.com at $352.80. Was able to negotiate better shipping by adding some other needed items like, rear differential oil, brake fluid, and power steering fluid. I plan on renewing all those fluids since I am closing on 100K miles.
Stay tuned and I'll post a DIY on replacing the fan assembly.
On to my latest problem. As seen in the thread that Glyn posted info on the cooling fan, I am having issues with the cooling fan not kicking on which throws a code, indicated by a thermometer on the MFD, and causes the car to heat up. Worst temp I have seen is 95 degrees C. Normally runs right at 80 degrees C. Unplugged the connector to the fan assembly to check for corrosion on the connector, and it was spotless. Reconnected and drove the car for a bit. Problem continuing to happen, so I ordered a new fan assembly. Searched high and low and settled on the OEM one from parts.com at $352.80. Was able to negotiate better shipping by adding some other needed items like, rear differential oil, brake fluid, and power steering fluid. I plan on renewing all those fluids since I am closing on 100K miles.
Stay tuned and I'll post a DIY on replacing the fan assembly.
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You keep taking one for the team. You're experiences have added great value to this forum, even though most of us experience only a fraction of what you have.