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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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Not sure if this works on a C240, but it does on a C230. If I recall correctly, turn the key to position 1 (maybe it's 2), turn on the lights, start the car. Basically it's a matter of getting the lights on before (or visa versa) the system does a electrical resistance check on the light circuit and throws a fault. Anyway, try varying combinations of the above and you should be able to figure it out and get them on without flickering.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by Mercedes
Also does anyone have the link to the Ligthing FAQI seem to have lost it

thanks again
Lighting FAQ's
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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Xenon, factory, aftermarket bulbs

SL w/ Xenon, E w/ factory, C w/ Aftermarket:
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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wow, if you look at the reflection on the floor, the C-Coupe is slightly darker than the SL ones.... thats impressive....
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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aftermarket hid - lighting

hey guys,
maybe some of you guys did the homework already and i am just trying to cheat . i would like to purchase HID for my 01' c240 , i have aftermarket bulbs right now, but in my old age i think i should invest in brighter lighting. any advice? shop on ebay, used set, or what kind or brand are easiest to install (plug and play), how about housing, do i have to change the housing. i would like to go the least expensive route. maybe some you specialist can help me. thanks

i think giving me a brand and what model would help best.

oh, what does all those stages mean?
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 09:29 PM
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You might want to reconsder going with the cheapest available conversion, because there are some really bad ones out there. I just bought Philips VisionPlus halogen bulbs from Autolamps Online. There customer service was excellent. The hid conversion kit they sell is all Philips, bulbs, ballast/igniters, and connectors. If I were getting hid's, I would buy these.

http://www.autolamps-online.com/products/h7kit.htm


When they talk about stages, they are talking about the color temperature of the light emitted from the bulbs. The bigger the number, the more blue/purple the light appears. These bulbs actually produce somewhat less light than the standard hid's. Also, the human eye does not see as well in that range as it does in the range of the standard (4200 degrees kelvin) range.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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suggestions

anybody have any suggestions? i would like to know a aftermarket HID kit to buy? maybe someone has done it and could share results and installation opinions. thanks.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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You should do a search on it. You can find out the good and the bads. I love mine. I have a HID Plus kit with Hella ballasts. If you want a set I can still get a good price on them. About 10 other members of MBWorld has them. We all bought it together.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:07 AM
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how much would be them? i am interested too!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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i saw a quote for 6000K HID lght kits for $450 U.S
pm me if you wanna know the site
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:08 PM
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Re: suggestions

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anybody have any suggestions? i would like to know a aftermarket HID kit to buy? maybe someone has done it and could share results and installation opinions. thanks.
How about getting the original MB Xenons? I think there are a couple of members (rrf is one of them, if that's still available) selling those on the Classifieds. This might not be the least expensive way, but at least you are getting genuine MB parts, Xenons and its a plug and play job. And most importantly, your warranty will not be voided!
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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Those who want HID

I saw these on Egay, thought someone may be interested. Dont think they fit the C230 though, may be wrong.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...872254304&rd=1
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 02:12 PM
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Re: Those who want HID

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I saw these on Egay, thought someone may be interested. Dont think they fit the C230 though, may be wrong.[/url]
Looks like somebody got themselves a set of bi-xenons. By the way, these won't fit on the Coupe.

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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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Egay? =X
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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http://www.hidsource.com/ these guys have good quality HID for cheap (review www.europeanspeed.com ) check em out. Under $400 for HID kit.
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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if i get any aftermarket HID kit, will it work with the mercedes or will the computer not recognize it? (i don't have xenon, but want to upgrade). any european manufacturers?

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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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$400????!!!! If these work with the C230 Im getting a pair. Anyone if they will work
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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$400????!!!! If these work with the C230 Im getting a pair. Anyone if they will work
Fully read the second post.

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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by antonio
if i get any aftermarket HID kit, will it work with the mercedes or will the computer not recognize it? (i don't have xenon, but want to upgrade). any european manufacturers?
I think you need to reprogram the computer at the dealer.. That's why I don't want to get the aftermarket HID kit because in the future, if your car has any electronic or light related problem, dealer will blame it on your aftermarket HID kit. (at least I believe the dealer where I do my service will) So unless there is a way to reprogram the car without letting dealer knows, I'll stick with my PIAA extreme white bulbs.. =)
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Why buy a HID "kit" for $450 and ruin your warrany! When you can buy OE xenon lights for a little more! You get better light output, easier/cheaper installation(no wires to cut or tap into, I did mine in about 2 1/2 hour), warranty plus you can sell your stock non-xenons for $ or keep it when you sell the car.

There are a few sets that is on sale in the classifieds(including mine)!
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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Lightbulb I think your warranty on the lights is gone if you change them

I think your warranty on the lights is gone if you change them, regardless if they are oem or not. It's like getting a CD changer after you bought the car, it will only have a 1-yr warranty from the manufacturer, but not the car's 4-yr.
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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xenon replacement bulbs

i want to replace the factory xenon bulbs with a nicer colour. most likely the 6000K will look good. i know i saw a pic here some time ago but can't find it. two questions though.
1.) is it true that a 6000K, 7000K and 8000K xenon bulb will lose its colour by about 70% as opposed to a 5000K xenon bulb at 10% ????
2.) how much is it for a 6000K from hids4less or autolamps-online. also, its a direct replacement with no funny things happenig????
3.) what are the factory bulbs d2s or d2r??? are they interchangeable or not a good idea???

thanks.

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 02:41 AM
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almost forgot, i read in timmyc230's "lighting facts" that standard halogen wiring will eventually deteriorate. is it really necessary to get a wiring harness or is the stock wiring good? any suggestions?
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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The 6000K HID Xenon bulbs lose about 20-25% in luminal output over the factory bulbs. Additionally, the high colour temperature scatters easier in poor weather conditions, meaning you get more glare and less light onto the areas that you want it. Are you willing to put up with this just for the look? I wouldn't do it.

8000K bulbs are just plain silly. You lose even more light and the colour temperature is so high that it approaches the black in the colour spectrum.
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