Engine Oil Flush on M112 Engine
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Engine Oil Flush on M112 Engine
Hi all,
been searching for engine oil flush thread, but haven't found yet. I'm sorry if this a repost thread.
here's the thing, after browsing this forum I found out a quite usefull link
-http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html-
there stated that AMSOIL 10W-30 meets MB 229.3 spec
but later on, I found out from a pdf file MB Factory Approved Products Sep '06 (attached below)
AMSOIL wasn't listed as 229.3 approved oil.
I live in a tropical country, so 0W or 5W is not necessary. that's why I'm contemplating to use a 10W-30 oil.
can anyone give any recommendation for a 10W-30 oil that meets 229.3 MB spec?
and I also want to ask, I'm currently using a 5W-50 oil. had I change the oil to a 10W-30, should I do an engine flush? is it recommended to flush our engine oil with an engine flush liquid? such as STP or Amsoil engine flush.
many thanks,
(sorry for the bad English
)
been searching for engine oil flush thread, but haven't found yet. I'm sorry if this a repost thread.
here's the thing, after browsing this forum I found out a quite usefull link
-http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html-
MB sheet 229.3 approved oils
for passenger cars with gas and diesel engines with extended drain interval indicator FSS up to 20,000 km, or 40,000 km - 25,000 mi, current minimum spec for 1998+ MB engines, min. 1.0% fuel saving compared to 229.1, based on ACEA A3 B4. For gas engine of the M100 series, gas engines of the M200 series and diesel engines of the OM600 series (not models with diesel particulate filter).
AGIP EXTRA HTS 5W-40
AGIP Synthetic PC 0W-40
AGIP Eurosport 0W-40
Amsoil 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Amsoil 10W-30 Synthetic
Amsoil Series 3000 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel
Aral HighTronic 5W-40
Aral SuperSynth 0W-40
Aral Super Tronic 0W-40
Aviasynth 0W-40
for passenger cars with gas and diesel engines with extended drain interval indicator FSS up to 20,000 km, or 40,000 km - 25,000 mi, current minimum spec for 1998+ MB engines, min. 1.0% fuel saving compared to 229.1, based on ACEA A3 B4. For gas engine of the M100 series, gas engines of the M200 series and diesel engines of the OM600 series (not models with diesel particulate filter).
AGIP EXTRA HTS 5W-40
AGIP Synthetic PC 0W-40
AGIP Eurosport 0W-40
Amsoil 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Amsoil 10W-30 Synthetic
Amsoil Series 3000 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel
Aral HighTronic 5W-40
Aral SuperSynth 0W-40
Aral Super Tronic 0W-40
Aviasynth 0W-40
but later on, I found out from a pdf file MB Factory Approved Products Sep '06 (attached below)
AMSOIL wasn't listed as 229.3 approved oil.
I live in a tropical country, so 0W or 5W is not necessary. that's why I'm contemplating to use a 10W-30 oil.
can anyone give any recommendation for a 10W-30 oil that meets 229.3 MB spec?
and I also want to ask, I'm currently using a 5W-50 oil. had I change the oil to a 10W-30, should I do an engine flush? is it recommended to flush our engine oil with an engine flush liquid? such as STP or Amsoil engine flush.
many thanks,
(sorry for the bad English
)
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A properly serviced engine shouldn’t require flushing.
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ummm.. although the link is excellent, but I cudnt join the forum. hence, i cudnt ask any question regarding the Amsoil for M112 engine.
anyone could help for my choice of using Amsoil on E26 M112 engine?
anyone could help for my choice of using Amsoil on E26 M112 engine?
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I am sure that Amsoil is a fine lubrication product, but it does not appear on the list of approved oils for sheet 229.3. One oil molecule looks much like another to a chemist, regardless of who sells it. What sets these sheet 229.3 oils apart is the additive package added to the lubricant. The additives have the job of preventing sludge from forming during the extended service interval. There are many more oils on sheet 229.3 than shown on the .pdf for USA model cars. Some of the products are not sold in the US, so they are not listed.
The additive package in the oil also lowers the viscosity, so even though you are in a warm climate you should use approved oils to avoid sludge. There is an added benefit in that the approved oils slightly improve mileage over 10W-30 oils.
Never use conventional motor oils. They contain wax and varnishes that harmful to your engine. On the oher hand synthetics allow engines run for more than 200,000 miles wth virtually no wear.
For flushing, it is generally not needed, so save your money. If your gasoline is poor, you might have excessive lacquer in the crankcase from the blow by gases. The oil does not hold these easily so a solvent can be used every other oil change. I use this product from Lubro-Moly:
http://www.performanceproducts4benz....ly+Motor+Clean
The chief reason I use it is that it thins the oil and makes it easier to suck out the dip stick tube. Draining the oil is a waste of time and consumables, and does not get anymore oil out of the engine than pumping it out.
The additive package in the oil also lowers the viscosity, so even though you are in a warm climate you should use approved oils to avoid sludge. There is an added benefit in that the approved oils slightly improve mileage over 10W-30 oils.
Never use conventional motor oils. They contain wax and varnishes that harmful to your engine. On the oher hand synthetics allow engines run for more than 200,000 miles wth virtually no wear.
For flushing, it is generally not needed, so save your money. If your gasoline is poor, you might have excessive lacquer in the crankcase from the blow by gases. The oil does not hold these easily so a solvent can be used every other oil change. I use this product from Lubro-Moly:
http://www.performanceproducts4benz....ly+Motor+Clean
The chief reason I use it is that it thins the oil and makes it easier to suck out the dip stick tube. Draining the oil is a waste of time and consumables, and does not get anymore oil out of the engine than pumping it out.
Last edited by Moviela; Oct 21, 2007 at 04:16 PM.
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thanks a lot bro,
hmmm.. I guess it is not recommended to use Amsoil 10W-30, then?
perhaps I should stick for the current oil viscosity, after all it's been 7 years with this oil and my car can still run topspeed easily.
hmmm.. I guess it is not recommended to use Amsoil 10W-30, then?
perhaps I should stick for the current oil viscosity, after all it's been 7 years with this oil and my car can still run topspeed easily.
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Diy link
and oil suggestion.Stick with mobil1 0w40 ,in the m112 engine.
warm the engine up slightly,like 5 minutes from cold and follow the diy link.
http://www.mercedesshop.com/Wikka/OilFilter2
other good diy on that site for the m112 engine,and over on benzworld.org w210 forum diy section for the m112 engine.
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also in answer to the above if you look at Mercedes oil recommendations for the rest of the world--and since you state you are in a tropical country,then amsoil is an approved 229.3 oil in the 10w30
I would stick with mobil 1 0w40 and don't flush,you may remove the coating that gets on the seals and gaskets after several years and you may get some oil seepage ,change the oil and fleece filter properly at the proper interval and you will never need a chemical flush.
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html
warm the engine up slightly,like 5 minutes from cold and follow the diy link.
http://www.mercedesshop.com/Wikka/OilFilter2
other good diy on that site for the m112 engine,and over on benzworld.org w210 forum diy section for the m112 engine.
ohlord
"GOT CODES?"
also in answer to the above if you look at Mercedes oil recommendations for the rest of the world--and since you state you are in a tropical country,then amsoil is an approved 229.3 oil in the 10w30
I would stick with mobil 1 0w40 and don't flush,you may remove the coating that gets on the seals and gaskets after several years and you may get some oil seepage ,change the oil and fleece filter properly at the proper interval and you will never need a chemical flush.
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html
Last edited by ohlord; Oct 25, 2007 at 04:13 PM.
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You should be using 229.5 oils now - I would recommend Mobil 1 0W-40 Euro formulation.
This is a very old thread. Thanks for not starting a new one. Covered many times.
This is a very old thread. Thanks for not starting a new one. Covered many times.
