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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Unfortunately I have the single piston front calipers on my Benz and when I was changing the wheels over for its snow boots I noticed the stamp on the casting on my caliper 'LUCAS'

For those that have experience with British cars that is the dreaded 5 letter word for crap products and no reliability. It makes me feel good that while Lucas failed in the auto-electrics side of the business they have now gone to the most critical component of the car. Sure hope they got their ***** together as I have direct experience in that company with my TR6...it ain't a pretty picture!

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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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My single haven't had an issue so far, but I'm upgrading to the AMG brakes.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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You mean "The Prince of Darkness" Modern Lucas is on par with its' contemporaries, my Lucas brakes have performed great so far.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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You can relax. The crap electric products that plagued Brittish cars for decades is no more. Lucas merged with an american company in the mid 90's. It was sold to TRW, who was later also taken apart, and the spun off automotive group is now an independent company traded on the NYSE as TRW. 30,000 or so people make car parts in Europe, and The plant in Koblenz, Germany still has a sign "Lucas Automotive GMBH" where they make calipers. Koblenz is a great place to visit. If you get European Delivery on your next Benz, stop by.


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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Boom vang
Unfortunately I have the single piston front calipers on my Benz and when I was changing the wheels over for its snow boots I noticed the stamp on the casting on my caliper 'LUCAS'

For those that have experience with British cars that is the dreaded 5 letter word for crap products and no reliability. It makes me feel good that while Lucas failed in the auto-electrics side of the business they have now gone to the most critical component of the car. Sure hope they got their ***** together as I have direct experience in that company with my TR6...it ain't a pretty picture!
I thought the 04's had 2-piston calipers(front).I have an 05' with the single piston ones,do I have Lucas as well?I realize you're a Canada,does that make a difference? Someone here(mb world) said the 05's are made by Brembo,is this correct?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Phin
I thought the 04's had 2-piston calipers(front).I have an 05' with the single piston ones,do I have Lucas as well?I realize you're a Canada,does that make a difference? Someone here(mb world) said the 05's are made by Brembo,is this correct?
The 2004.5 sports model got the 4 piston brakes much like the AMG ones. 05+ received the 2 piston brakes. Are you sure you have an 05 with single?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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The 2004.5 sports model got the 4 piston brakes much like the AMG ones. 05+ received the 2 piston brakes. Are you sure you have an 05 with single?
My bad,too much info to remember.I have the two piston,but are they made by Brembo?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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My bad,too much info to remember.I have the two piston,but are they made by Brembo?
Nope. It would be nice if they were.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Phin
I thought the 04's had 2-piston calipers(front).I have an 05' with the single piston ones,do I have Lucas as well?I realize you're a Canada,does that make a difference? Someone here(mb world) said the 05's are made by Brembo,is this correct?
Unfortunately my car does not have the sports package (it was an option in Canada where as in the US the car C230 was sold as a sport sedan)

The Calipers I have are the same that the coupe, wagon and the C240, C320 had as well as certain models of the CLK. The rears are a dual fixed caliper.

They do however seem to work quite efficiently and never seem to be short of braking power. I would however wish it was the 2 or 4 pot, they do look nicer, but the added bonus is that I can run cheaper tires&wheels for my snows as I downsized from my 17" to 16" for the winter boots not to mention that having a narrower patch has better performance in the white stuff and slush.

As a side note, I've noticed that the new C class has resorted back to single piston for all the models other than the C63 and BMW only uses slider calipers

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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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I have the AMG brakes on my c230

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My single haven't had an issue so far, but I'm upgrading to the AMG brakes.
I love them, they are great. I'm sure that after you upgrade, you will never go back. Not to mention they add to the cars appearance.

After I look at my huge rotors, every car I see seems to have such small brakes, even big SUV's, lol.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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I love them, they are great. I'm sure that after you upgrade, you will never go back. Not to mention they add to the cars appearance.

After I look at my huge rotors, every car I see seems to have such small brakes, even big SUV's, lol.
LOL thats what I like to hear and want. I'm looking at getting a better price for the brakes than what EvoSport is selling them for. Any suggestion?
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Nope. It would be nice if they were.
Mine are the 2 piston calipers and they are stamped Brembo ??
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tangerine
LOL thats what I like to hear and want. I'm looking at getting a better price for the brakes than what EvoSport is selling them for. Any suggestion?
How much is EvoSport asking?
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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How much is EvoSport asking?
~$1100 (before shipping), I was browsing through the archives and came across a few old threads about a group buy for the AMG brakes for 500-600 dollars. Pretty bummed out reading about that
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