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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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Saw new Accord the other day...

...and I thought it was a Civic. YUCK!
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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I know what you mean. My mom actually just got one about 2 months ago, and surprisingly, it's incredibly nice. I'm not a huge fan of the exterior stlying, but this much is true...

-The interior design is awesome, especially with the sand leather and burlwood trim.

-The car is extremely rigid.

-Fit and finish are second to none. If you ever have a chance, take a look at the way the hood and other body pannels fit...the gaps are incredibly small and everything looks nice and tight.


Hopefully I can post some pics soon!
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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I've never really been an Accord fan due mostly to the exterior design (ie., extremely boring). I've seen several new ones, and IMO, the back is very nice, modern and clean, definitely a welcome departure from "normal" Accord design. The roofline, especially near the C-pillar has a classy, elegant look. I think they really missed a much higher potential with the front-end design -- very cheap looking -- not fitting with the rest of the re-design. The front is the main reason I would again not consider the Accord. First, they need a bit of chrome, at least surrounding the "grille" opening. Then, they need a little more mass there instead of making it look like a "cheap" Civic or other low-level Japanese car. The overall Camry design still beats the new Accord, IMO.

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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I saw one while pumping gas the other day, the mechanic from the dealership down my street was also pumping gas. The car isnt that bad looking, just a bit weird:p
I think i would choose the new accord over the new camry
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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Not a big fan of the 4dr, the coupe looks pretty sweet- not much unlike the new CLK. I'm certainly not saying I'd rather an Accord over a CLK but for even money I think I'd take the 2 Accords.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by zimmer26
Not a big fan of the 4dr, the coupe looks pretty sweet- not much unlike the new CLK. I'm certainly not saying I'd rather an Accord over a CLK but for even money I think I'd take the 2 Accords.
I agree - I don't think the 4 door is ugly by any means, but not great looking, either. Its just there.

The Accord Coupe is a nice looking car. Doesn't it have something like 240 hp, 6 speed, leather, etc. for around $25,000? If so, certainly not a car deserving of much criticism.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 04:09 PM
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Doesn't it have something like 240 hp, 6 speed, leather, etc. for around $25,000? If so, certainly not a car deserving of much criticism.
You can't judge a car by its spec's. Based on spec's, a Hyundai would be comparable to a MB (just as many features for less money)! The Accord is FRONT WHEEL DRIVE (HATE THAT!) and I doubt its leather is the same quality as MB. And I'd MUCH rather be in the MB in a wreck.

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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You can't judge a car by its spec's. Based on spec's, a Hyundai would be comparable to a MB (just as many features for less money)! The Accord is REAR WHEEL DRIVE (HATE THAT!) and I doubt its leather is the same quality as MB. And I'd MUCH rather be in the MB in a wreck.
Yeah, gotta hate those rear wheel drive cars.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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Why do you hate FWD so much?
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jim Banville
You can't judge a car by its spec's. Based on spec's, a Hyundai would be comparable to a MB (just as many features for less money)! The Accord is FRONT WHEEL DRIVE (HATE THAT!) and I doubt its leather is the same quality as MB. And I'd MUCH rather be in the MB in a wreck.
I checked one of these out yesterday at the SF car show. I'd say the leather is of comparable initial quality to MB - but it might not hold up as well over time. The car with the nicest leather I saw yesterday was the Infiniti G35 sedan - very soft and supple (although it's so soft I can see it being easily damaged). Of all the cars I sat in the MBs had the most broken interior bits (glove boxes, little compartments, etc.) - I don't know if this is because these particular cars had been on the car show scene for some time or if the overall quality of the interiors simply isn't as good (I sure hope it's the former).

Regarding FWD - I too prefer RWD, but in reality most people will never notice the difference.

The Hyundai's were actually surprisingly nice as well.

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by MacPhisto
I agree - I don't think the 4 door is ugly by any means, but not great looking, either. Its just there.

The Accord Coupe is a nice looking car. Doesn't it have something like 240 hp, 6 speed, leather, etc. for around $25,000? If so, certainly not a car deserving of much criticism.
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Tommy who? Hilfiger? Or the one with the Smurf leather interior?
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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Tommy who? Hilfiger? Or the one with the Smurf leather interior?
I think Tommy and Mac had some words earlier (ie, misunderstanding!) I think MacPhisto means MB-Tommy!
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 10:07 PM
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Why do you hate FWD so much?
Torquesteer! And REAL cars are either RWD or AWD.

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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Re: Saw new Accord the other day...

Originally posted by Jim Banville
...and I thought it was a Civic. YUCK!
4 door Accord is ugly, I agree, but the coupe is very different from the 4 door sedan, much much nicer. I do like the Coupe Accord
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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but the coupe is very different from the 4 door sedan
But they look the same from the front, no? That is the truly ugly part. The rest of the car (sedan or coupe) doesn't look too bad. The front bumper seems way too high in the air, the headlights seem too big and there's somthing about the rake and shape of the hood that doesn't please my eye.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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Doesn't it have something like 240 hp, 6 speed, leather, etc. for around $25,000? If so, certainly not a car deserving of much criticism.
I'd rather spend about $3K more and get this...
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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I think the coupe look sleeker on the fron't I can't remember, I'll check them on their website
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 02:18 AM
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The price difference between equivalently equipped G35s and Accords (leather, etc.) is over $6,000. That makes the G35 almost 25% more expensive - really a different price class.

Its hard to believe that anyone would really find the Accord coupe to be ugly or unattractive, but I guess tastes vary. I find chrome 19 inch wheels and cut coil springs on a C class unattractive, but lots apparently like that.



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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 10:11 AM
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Re: Saw new Accord the other day...

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...and I thought it was a Civic. YUCK!
its a CIVIC all grown-up !!! hehhehe
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 10:13 AM
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For $29K, the "base" G35 sportcoupe has REAR WHEEL DRIVE, 40 more HP, leather wrapped steering wheel, 17" wheels, and a few more goodies. A similarly equipped Accord Coupe V6 (non-leather) would result in a final price of $25K, and you can forget getting REAR WHEEL DRIVE and those other 40 ponies If you were about to spend $25K on an Accord coupe V6, I think you'd be very foolish to eliminate the base G35 for just $4K more.
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I have a new 02 coupe (Orion blue C2 C7 Bose Auto) and an 03 MINI Cooper S (Indi blue/white top ESP xeons). The MINI has 17's and Getrag 6 speed. A rocket ship on rails.

They are two VERY different cars. Anything under 90, the MINI is my choice. It has no noticable torque steer, excellent turn in. and tight suspension. I plan on adding LSD and lighter wheels without runflats.

The MB is calmer, quieter, softer, and roomier. If it were my only car it would have to be a 6 speed with a suspension kit. I have an audio 10 coming.

Fit and finish on both cars are comparable. The MINI has some british quirkiness, and it attracts far more attention. Both have had trim pieces come loose. The MB outweighs the MINI by at least 750 lbs! Nearly every part is heavier than necessary, but that's what gives it a solid feel. I love them both, but for different reasons.

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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Jim Banville
For $29K, the "base" G35 sportcoupe has REAR WHEEL DRIVE, 40 more HP, leather wrapped steering wheel, 17" wheels, and a few more goodies. A similarly equipped Accord Coupe V6 (non-leather) would result in a final price of $25K, and you can forget getting REAR WHEEL DRIVE and those other 40 ponies If you were about to spend $25K on an Accord coupe V6, I think you'd be very foolish to eliminate the base G35 for just $4K more.
You make a good case for the G35 SportsCoupe!

I guess you'd be really foolish to pay MORE than G35 money for a C230, with 91 (NINETY-ONE!) ponies LESS, only 16 inch wheels, etc???
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You make a good case for the G35 SportsCoupe!

I guess you'd be really foolish to pay MORE than G35 money for a C230, with 91 (NINETY-ONE!) ponies LESS, only 16 inch wheels, etc???
I know I'd go for the G35
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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I guess you'd be really foolish to pay MORE than G35 money for a C230, with 91 (NINETY-ONE!) ponies LESS, only 16 inch wheels, etc???
I haven't driven or even seen a G35 (coupe or sedan) up close, but based on specs and reviews, I have been trying to convince my wife to look at it (the sedan) as an alternative to the E320 she hopes to upgrade to from our current C240. Other than price, the G35 sedan and E320 are very close (power, size, etc.). People in the E class forum said they have looked at the G35, and it isn't in the same "class" as the E. They gigged it for a cheap fake-metal center console and cheaper leather than the MB. I have never been in a japanese car that had what I consider a "nice" interior. Lots of "high quality plastic". As far as comparing the G35 coupe and C230, you CAN NOT downplay having a MERCEDES-BENZ branded car! Well, with all the negative comments you've made about MB quality, I guess you could. By the way, I asked in another thread what personal experience you have had with the unreliability of MB's. I'm still curious.
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