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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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Got a new smartkey with the 3rd button

Maybe this has happened to you guys, but I thought it was unique. Took the Coupe in for Service A, and told them that the key's "roll down the windows" feature was virtually useless unless I was about a foot from the car (as we all know). They ordered a new key, and when I picked it up, I saw that it had the additional trunk button, whereas the original key did not. It unlocks the trunk as designed. Don't know how much real benefit that is but it's kinda cool to have it I suppose.

As a sidenote to the DFW guys, Ewing Autohaus washed the car after the service, and I had wondered if they would. It wasn't to my standards though, so I immediately had to go home and do it myself (the car that is). So far, their service is OK, but the Ford Focus loaner sucked.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Got a new smartkey with the 3rd button

Originally posted by C230Komp
Maybe this has happened to you guys, but I thought it was unique. Took the Coupe in for Service A, and told them that the key's "roll down the windows" feature was virtually useless unless I was about a foot from the car (as we all know). They ordered a new key, and when I picked it up, I saw that it had the additional trunk button, whereas the original key did not. It unlocks the trunk as designed. Don't know how much real benefit that is but it's kinda cool to have it I suppose.

As a sidenote to the DFW guys, Ewing Autohaus washed the car after the service, and I had wondered if they would. It wasn't to my standards though, so I immediately had to go home and do it myself (the car that is). So far, their service is OK, but the Ford Focus loaner sucked.
Awesome!.... the ford focus sucked??... i felt the same way when they gave me the keys to a ford focus but once you rev that baby up it's a whole diff story... I liked how the engine sounded really really loud but didn't really get you anywhere.... haha the inside was kinda cruddy, as was the outside, overall a decent car for about under 15,000.... BOY WAS I GLAD TO GET MY BENZ BACK...
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 08:27 PM
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a ford focus

A Ford Focus is a throw away car.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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Reality hit when I went thru a toll booth on the way home. Went to push the window button and there was a crank handle. Haven't seen one of those since 1978.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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I'm crushed! I thought Ewing only let ME drive that Ford Focus... Red 4-door with Charcoal interior, right?
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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Hey, I have a Ford Focus ZX3.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 10:10 PM
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1st, congrats on the key.

2nd, the ford focus is an odd car. i know many people think it looks pretty good, but i am not one of them. i do like the design of the cougar though. the focus gets some pretty darn good reviews; especially in europe. fun to drive, etc. but in the US, it seems to be one of the worst cars ever built. i find the most telling stat is the 7% of all the investigations at the NHTSA. from nytimes:


A Low-Cost Model Is a Big Headache for Ford
By DANNY HAKIM

DETROIT, Nov. 5 — The Ford Focus might be the most error-prone car in the industry.

The low-cost car, which was introduced in 1999, has had a total of 11 safety recalls and is the subject of five defect investigations by federal regulators. And two new recalls this week, including a wiring problem that could, in worst-case situations, cause engine fires, raise even more questions.

The five pending investigations into the Focus account for at least 7 percent of the entire defect investigation caseload of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, according to official documents. The two most serious investigations involve a suspension problem that causes a loss of steering control and a problem with the fuel tank that leads to stalling.

Officials at the Ford Motor Company say the two latest recalls, which they initiated, will address some of the problems, including the suspension defect. Company executives have acknowledged that the Focus has had problems since it was brought over from Europe in 1999, but they say newer versions of the car are much improved.

"It didn't do as well as it should have when it came over from Europe, but we concentrated a lot of resources into improving the quality and reliability," said Todd Nissen, a Ford spokesman. The number of warranty repairs has fallen 40 percent since the car came to the United States, Mr. Nissen added, and one Ford measure says defects are down 35 percent. To reassure new customers, Ford has started offering five-year, 100,000-mile power-train warranties for 2003 models. (The standard bumper-to-bumper warranty is three years, 36,000 miles.)

"Early on it had problems," Mr. Nissen said. "We are still dealing with those problems. These recalls affected the first two model years, but we've improved since then."

Clarence Ditlow, the director of the Center for Auto Safety, a consumer advocacy group, said Focus was the second-most recalled automobile in the industry's history, after the General Motors X-Car in the 1980's, though Ford officials questioned his calculation. The traffic safety agency does not compile recall data that way.

Mr. Ditlow also believes Focus could potentially be vulnerable to aggressive "lemon laws" in Arkansas, Kansas and Ohio.

"When you have a car that has so many safety recalls that it might fall within lemon laws, you have a seriously defective vehicle," he said. "It is one of the worst launches of all time."

Problems for the Focus add to Ford's troubles, from plummeting market share to the ravaging effects of a price war, a sinking stock price and lowered credit ratings. It is also trying cut billions of dollars in annual costs while restocking its product lineup and mending its battered reputation on the quality front.

Focus, the 11th-best-selling automobile in the nation last month, is a cornerstone of Ford's product line. William Clay Ford, Jr., the chief executive and Ford family scion, made a personal pitch for Focus in one of his recent TV spots, comparing it to none other than the venerable Model T.

The company pitches Focus as a first purchase for young people, but for some young buyers it has not made a good impression.

Two years ago, Scott Robinson, a 30-year-old intern at an architectural firm in Hawaii, bought a green 2001 Focus ZX3. It was his first new car.

"I knew it was out in Europe and got really good reviews," he recalled. "I test-drove it and it handled real nice and drove real nice and it seemed like a real nice car. But it turned out to be the car from hell."

His Focus is due back in the shop this week; his visits are so commonplace he is on a first name basis with his dealer. First, there was "the classic brake problem, squealing."

"Then there was the stalling problem," he said. "It stalled twice on the highway. Then I was having problems with the fuel economy. I was only getting 175 miles a tank as opposed to 250 or 300."

He continued.

"My front disc brakes, my first set wore out in 12,000 miles and now I'm going on my second set and I only have 24,000 miles on my car. Then my front rotors warped; I had to get those changed. And the suspension is making weird noise. But that's the second time I've been in for that."

After all that, Mr. Robinson said that when the car worked "it's a really fun car to drive."

Indeed, many customers and reviewers praise Focus for ride and handling beyond its starting price of less than $13,000.

"This is one of only a few economy cars we look forward to driving," wrote Csaba Csere, the editor of Car and Driver magazine, in a review that named Focus one of the 10 best cars in the industry.

For Ford dealers, plenty of problems with Focus mean extra profits from repairs, with Ford paying the bill for recalls and warranty work. But that hardly means they are content.

"Going back to Firestone, the dealers made money on the recalls," said Jerry Reynolds, owner of Ford dealerships in Texas and Oklahoma and former chairman of the Ford National Dealer Council. He was referring to the safety problems involving Ford Explorers and Firestone tires.

"But also, that's not the way you want to make your money," he added. "You lose customers over it, and you have to do a lot more selling when customers come in to convince them these cars are good cars."

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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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Hey, I have a Ford Focus ZX3.
Well Iceman I feel bad for you. I think the Focus is up to 12 recalls by now. Better sell it or as a previous poster said "throw it away".
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by young
the focus gets some pretty darn good reviews; especially in europe. fun to drive, etc. but in the US, it seems to be one of the worst cars ever built.
That's sad.

Here in England we have one, and its a totally damn fine car.

Drives well, reliable, roomy, really great ride, quiet, so good all round it leaves our other small cars (Rover 25, Citroen Berlingo, and a VW caddy) for dead. You have a different car there, but everybody here loves it. Best mid size (here) car on ther road bar none, and thats not just my opinion. Jeremy Clarkson has one.
Brilliant cd/stereo as well. So sorry its a lemon in America - we love it!
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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Ford Focus is still a throw away car, you can put a coat on a pig and it is still a pig under the coat.
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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OK, WHAT "roll down window" feature??? Am I missing something here??

I have a 2002 C230 Coupe. Is this a standard feature??

Juan
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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If you forget to close your window(s) and pana-roof after pulling the key, getting out of the car, and closing the door, you can point your smartkey at the door handle from a few steps away, keep the lock button depressed and watch everything close at once. The roof takes a little longer, and you need to keep the button pressed, so it may leave you feeling a little stupid just standing there pointing... still a neat feature, nevertheless.

Don't feel bad, I'm too lazy to RTFM myself - although I did once when I just got the car, but there are way too many features to memorize...
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by Lockbuster
Ford Focus is still a throw away car, you can put a coat on a pig and it is still a pig under the coat.
Have you actually driven this car? Or are you just crapping on it for no other reason other than you think they are junk?

Tis a fine ride for the money you shell out. Clearly, Ford has had numerous quality control issues... however, the car is quite fun to drive. It handles good, and the motor sure does like to rev. Go drive an SVT version, and tell me you didn't like it.

If I had to drive a car that price range, I can think of many cars that are far less fun to drive, and it beats driving yet another boring *** Civic. And it sure beats driving a KID(Korean, Inexpensive, and Disposable) car.

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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Have you actually driven this car? Or are you just crapping on it for no other reason other than you think they are junk?

Tis a fine ride for the money you shell out. Clearly, Ford has had numerous quality control issues... however, the car is quite fun to drive. It handles good, and the motor sure does like to rev. Go drive an SVT version, and tell me you didn't like it.

If I had to drive a car that price range, I can think of many cars that are far less fun to drive, and it beats driving yet another boring *** Civic. And it sure beats driving a KID(Korean, Inexpensive, and Disposable) car.

Ford Focus is a POS. Ford has built another "Pinto" "Festiva" for the people who have very little money to spend.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Lockbuster
Ford Focus is a POS. Ford has built another "Pinto" "Festiva" for the people who have very little money to spend.
Actually, I disagree. I've driven Pintos, Festivas, Escorts and the "loaner" Focus (3-4 days stints at a time), and I feel that the Focus is a far better built car... a more solid feel to it. Not exactly my cup of tea, but I'm sure it's a fine car for basic transportation with a few creature comforts (I was actually impressed with the Radio). For non-car nuts, it's just about getting from point A to point B.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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Re: Got a new smartkey with the 3rd button

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Maybe this has happened to you guys, but I thought it was unique. Took the Coupe in for Service A, and told them that the key's "roll down the windows" feature was virtually useless unless I was about a foot from the car (as we all know). They ordered a new key, and when I picked it up, I saw that it had the additional trunk button, whereas the original key did not. It unlocks the trunk as designed. Don't know how much real benefit that is but it's kinda cool to have it I suppose.
Sooo... how far away does it work from now? I have to be about 6" from mine...completely useless.

Of course, it's still a useless feature as configured (should be a simple one button push and release just like the lock feature).

MB should hire us as consultants since they can't figure these things out:p
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:18 PM
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So far, about 15-18 ft is the best I have managed. The trunk opening key is the cool part, kinda.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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Funny how when a Ford has quality control or reliability problems, its a "POS."

But, when a "Benz" has quality control or reliability problems, it has "quirks" or "character."

It's all in the badging.
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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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There is nothing on gods earth that would make me ever drive a Ford again. They have No sole,The new Mondeo is a cheap copy of the VW Passet. I lucky to be able to drive a MB and some people can only afford a Ford. But Ford and GM are controlled by the company car market over here so they produce over priced tosh. Dont by a ford buy a second hand merc or bemma, They will be better that any ford.
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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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Now I want to make one thing clear, Ford Focus is a POS, not all Fords are POS. Mercedes made POS and that was the 1980's 190E. Everyone hated that vehicle and I just worked on one (within the past month) that the owner could not even give away! Just my 2 cents worth.

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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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focus loaner?!

you don't get MB loaners when your car goes in for service? i get a 2000-2001ish ML320 when i drop my car off. in fact, my dad drives a '98 ML and so he loves it when he gets the newer, nicer, cleaner model of his own car when his goes in for service. you should tell your dealer that down in atlanta, we get MBs for our MBs - i mean, you bought a mercedes, not a ford, you should be entitled to one don't you think?! good luck...
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