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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadski350Sport
Ummm???
You can't believe everything you read on the forums. There is tons of bad information out there, so you have to know who you can trust and I know I wouldn't take information on aftermarket wheels from someone with stock wheels. Read my reply in post #1236 and you'll see that I definitely warned you against wheels with a 2" front lip.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
um, LOTS of people told you that they wouldn't fit. the people with the most amount of knowledge ALL told you that they wouldn't. but, you didn't listen and you jumped on them... sorry man, you're SOL.

Why don't read back thru the forum before you ramble on about false junk like so. What are you trying to proove?
YES- I'm new to the Benz-World and asked for some helpful/expirienced advice...I would never balme anyone for their opinions...but if you look back almost everyone said it should be good with the use of some spacers..

-BlakeP was the only one who really doubted it...instead of jumpin into this like you have with sooooo much knowledge read back and look for yerself...and honestly...what good is yer input if it's going to be like that? Already bummed about the fit...dont really need yer extra mouth do I?
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake P
You can't believe everything you read on the forums. There is tons of bad information out there, so you have to know who you can trust and I know I wouldn't take information on aftermarket wheels from someone with stock wheels. Read my reply in post #1236 and you'll see that I definitely warned you against wheels with a 2" front lip.

Thanks man....and I HOPE I can make some magic happen?
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadski350Sport
Ummm???
phil said with the MOST amount of knowledge. i got corrected a few posts down by Frank

Originally Posted by FrankW
there is no 2-3 mm hubcentric spacers. H&R hubcentric spacers starts at 8mm. 5mm is only a machined and balanced spacer.
sorry, they're right when it comes to bad knowledge, haha. i admit i spoke way before i knew anything. even blake got me, i do have stockies but i love the rims and if they could fit, they would look sorry if i mislead you, and good luck!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadski350Sport
Thanks man....and I HOPE I can make some magic happen?
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for ya. 8-10mm spacer will put the tires pretty close to flush (hopefully not beyond) with the fenders and hopefully be enough to clear the calipers. After that, your options are to either grind some metal off the front of the calipers or trade someone for a small brake kit from a non-sport model.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake P
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for ya. 8-10mm spacer will put the tires pretty close to flush (hopefully not beyond) with the fenders and hopefully be enough to clear the calipers. After that, your options are to either grind some metal off the front of the calipers or trade someone for a small brake kit from a non-sport model.
.. ahem ..
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mu9enx
.. ahem ..
But then you'd have to upgrade your wheels to at least 17" to fit the sport brakes.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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But then you'd have to upgrade your wheels to at least 17" to fit the sport brakes.
i know. hehe, can't wait till thursday!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mu9enx
i know. hehe, can't wait till thursday!
Getting new shoes?
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadski350Sport
Why don't read back thru the forum before you ramble on about false junk like so. What are you trying to proove?
YES- I'm new to the Benz-World and asked for some helpful/expirienced advice...I would never balme anyone for their opinions...but if you look back almost everyone said it should be good with the use of some spacers..

-BlakeP was the only one who really doubted it...instead of jumpin into this like you have with sooooo much knowledge read back and look for yerself...and honestly...what good is yer input if it's going to be like that? Already bummed about the fit...dont really need yer extra mouth do I?
I'm not trying to prove anything. You've posted soooo many damn threads asking for help about the most inane things. Then you posted for help and Blake and Frank told you that the wheels won't fit. But, you disregarded them and still bought them. Now, you're trying to make them fit and are pissed that people aren't helping you out. I'm just saying that maybe if you did some more research and listened to people and weren't so quick to jump the gun then you wouldn't be in this situation.

Half the people that responded, I wouldn't trust. Blake and Frank I would, but you gotta see that the other people don't know squat...
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake P
Getting new shoes?
well, i'm gonna lose a pair of V's, but i'm gonna get a set of 18's.


YES!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rlee02135
General's have a squarer sidewall. I'd go with the T1-R's or the FK452
Blake P and rlee.....i haven't pulled the trigger yet on tires (see posts above), and I appreciate the help and links...time to make a decision:

Should I go:
T1R's 225/255 or
FK452's 235/265?

I'd rather have the extra meat if you think i'll be good to go w/o rubbing.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mu9enx
phil said with the MOST amount of knowledge. i got corrected a few posts down by Frank



sorry, they're right when it comes to bad knowledge, haha. i admit i spoke way before i knew anything. even blake got me, i do have stockies but i love the rims and if they could fit, they would look sorry if i mislead you, and good luck!
dude, let's use this as a lesson... please don't post advice or answers to questions unless you're completely positive about your answers.

there are many more members who have better knowledge of the w203.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadski350Sport
Why don't read back thru the forum before you ramble on about false junk like so. What are you trying to proove?
YES- I'm new to the Benz-World and asked for some helpful/expirienced advice...I would never balme anyone for their opinions...but if you look back almost everyone said it should be good with the use of some spacers..

-BlakeP was the only one who really doubted it...instead of jumpin into this like you have with sooooo much knowledge read back and look for yerself...and honestly...what good is yer input if it's going to be like that? Already bummed about the fit...dont really need yer extra mouth do I?
dude, WTF...no one helped you???

I answered your question on fitment in at least 3 different occasions including replying PM you sent me telling you that those wheel will 99% not going to fit because of the size of the front lip BEFORE and AFTER you bought these wheels BEFORE you put the tires on them.

If you are just going to ignore other people's suggestion on what NOT to do then be my guess.

I can tell you right now with 8-10mm spacer your wheel will stick out pass the fender like a sore thumb. Any lowering they will be riding on the fender faster than Britney getting in and out of rehab.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
dude, let's use this as a lesson... please don't post advice or answers to questions unless you're completely positive about your answers.

there are many more members who have better knowledge of the w203.
yessir!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jfabes
Blake P and rlee.....i haven't pulled the trigger yet on tires (see posts above), and I appreciate the help and links...time to make a decision:

Should I go:
T1R's 225/255 or
FK452's 235/265?

I'd rather have the extra meat if you think i'll be good to go w/o rubbing.
Falken tires are skinnier, so they are like the smaller T1-R's.

I'd go for the Toyo's...better performance.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankW
dude, WTF...no one helped you???

I answered your question on fitment in at least 3 different occasions including replying PM you sent me telling you that those wheel will 99% not going to fit because of the size of the front lip BEFORE and AFTER you bought these wheels BEFORE you put the tires on them.

If you are just going to ignore other people's suggestion on what NOT to do then be my guess.

I can tell you right now with 8-10mm spacer your wheel will stick out pass the fender like a sore thumb. Any lowering they will be riding on the fender faster than Britney getting in and out of rehab.
I didnt say ONCE about people "not helping" me and I'm not in here to argue with a buncha guys buddddyy...but please dont take my words out of context and try to keep any pointless arguments going. You given me great advice with the spacers and appreciated the time man...but try not to get so bent. LIKE I SAID...I would never blame anyone for not giving me the right advice or steering me the right way (only thankful to hear anything informative at all about my ride) and I'm just stilllll searchin for more. Im a big boy and take full accountability for what I did...sounded like a good idea w/ a little set of spacers and sh*t...looks like I effed up. I dont wana point fingers but all this "I TOLD YOU SO" shat is purely annoying.

I've been very greatfull to have so much help and learned so much about my car on this site. I've been part of other forums...and stuck with this one for a reason. So simmer down and I'm not "complaining" about anything...just concerned about my mistake and still asking for any further advice or ideas from people who might know just a little bit more than the next...not so "inane" when it's your personal problems is it?
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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i agree with Frank- an et32 F with a 10mm spacer will push the tire (235/35) out past the fender by around 1/4". i ran into your same problem a while back- except i didn't buy ebay specials. i ordered a set of Moven wheels- only to find out when they came in (with tires mounted) that Moven had been bought my Monet- and they had slightly changed the design of the spoke. it wouldn't clear my calipers. long story short- i was stuck with them, sold them for a fairly large loss to someone here that didn't have big brakes.

i've also got a set of 5mm spacers (i think you said you just needed a small one for the rear) that you are welcome to, for the cost of shipping.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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i found a couple pictures from when i tried to fit my moven's up. it really sucks- because i thought they looked fantastic from the side. depending on your wheel, you might be able to run a tire that isn't as wide up front to make it appear slightly better

19x8.5 et32 front with a 235/35 General tire mounted- 10mm spacer
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Sorry I took so long to respond, the wheels weigh about 24 lbs for the front and 26 lbs for the rear.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Thanks for all the help and I'm going to tryyyy to make these work...

So...[B]I'm shooting for 10MM Hubecentric Spacers for the front (not any larger forsure??) And throw some 5MM spacers in the rear. Hahaha pray for me guys...I'll get moving on the spacers this week.

The tires I have are Federal's and seem very low-pro however, it looks like the rear tires might slightlyyyy touch the inside fender well...a spacer should help that a bit correct?

Appreciate all the time and concerns and Bumpnzx3...those pics help a LOT and give me a great idea of what I've got myself into ...ay yi yiiiiii
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadski350Sport
Thanks for all the help and I'm going to tryyyy to make these work...

So...[B]I'm shooting for 10MM Hubecentric Spacers for the front (not any larger forsure??) And throw some 5MM spacers in the rear. Hahaha pray for me guys...I'll get moving on the spacers this week.

The tires I have are Federal's and seem very low-pro however, it looks like the rear tires might slightlyyyy touch the inside fender well...a spacer should help that a bit correct?

Appreciate all the time and concerns and Bumpnzx3...those pics help a LOT and give me a great idea of what I've got myself into ...ay yi yiiiiii
good luck! but, no offense man, I would rather rock the OEM's than Federal Tires with eBay rims that don't fit properly.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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touche...
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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seriously I wouldn't bother putting those on either. sell it either with or without the tires and take a hundred or so loss to someone who doesn't have the sport brakes and get a set that fits.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 04:01 AM
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nothing is more of a headache than a pair of wheels that dont fit/rub your fenders, dont ever make that mistake. read the forums, tons of us here have been through diff sets of wheels and know what works and what doesnt.

FYI spacers will further push your wheels out toward your fender.

Basic wheel knowledge for Sport brake equipped cars:

Front offset: 28-35, 35 is pushing it close, may work depending on spoke design of wheels
Rear offset: 35

if you run coilover suspension say hello to 28-32 offset in front, because anything higher will rub the inside of the tires on the coilover.

this is basic offsets for aftermarket 19x8.5/9.5 wheels. its really simple once you know how things work.
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