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Aug 25, 2009 | 04:41 PM
  #6501  
Thanks for your reply. I was thinking 19" would be to big for my car upgrading from 17" stocks.
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Aug 25, 2009 | 04:53 PM
  #6502  
Quote: I'm planning to buy some 19x8.5/10 Linea Corse Lemans - Hyper Silver Pol Lip 5x112 +30F/R
Quote: 19x10 et35 is max what you want to go unless you want to stretch the tires.
with a 10j +30 you will need to run a bit of a stretch and/or roll fenders...should look killer if you do it right though.
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Aug 25, 2009 | 05:13 PM
  #6503  
Quote: That's not really what I asked. Rofl, Long time since I have seen those img's.

I figured out why I was confused. Mixed up your other rims from earlier post. The 10j's. Thought you were saying those were +27 but +30 wouldn't work.

Looks like you were running a 265/40 on the 10j's? Hard to tell on iPhone.
19x10 ET35. 265/30/19. on the Carlsson 1/16 BE.

classic image yo! the answer lies in the pictures
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Aug 25, 2009 | 05:16 PM
  #6504  
Quote: I'm planning to buy some 19x8.5/10 Linea Corse Lemans - Hyper Silver Pol Lip 5x112 +30F/R



i have a 06 c230 sport sedan, am i most likely to roll my fenders? anyone have 19" on w203 is it too big for your taste and how does it ride?
if they clear the caliper you'll need to run 255's in the rear.

haven't seen anyone with LC lemans on MB yet.
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Aug 25, 2009 | 05:37 PM
  #6505  
Quote: 19x10 ET35. 265/30/19. on the Carlsson 1/16 BE.

classic image yo! the answer lies in the pictures
lol i meant 265/30...im just too used to talking 17" wheels and tires, 265/40 on a 19" would be huge haha.

thanks much for the clarification.
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Aug 25, 2009 | 06:01 PM
  #6506  
Quote: Offset doesn't matter for brake clearance. Spoke design and amount of material on Back of mounting face is what give you brake clearance.
? Offset directly effects brake clearance, as does spoke & wheel design
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Aug 26, 2009 | 03:21 AM
  #6507  
Quote: if they clear the caliper you'll need to run 255's in the rear.

haven't seen anyone with LC lemans on MB yet.
well from the wheel package they offer there are only 265 and 275 for the rears. even though the site had it listed specially for Mercedes it might not even clear the calipers . lucky enough i didn't jump the gun yet.
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Aug 26, 2009 | 03:33 AM
  #6508  
Quote: well from the wheel package they offer there are only 265 and 275 for the rears. even though the site had it listed specially for Mercedes it might not even clear the calipers . lucky enough i didn't jump the gun yet.
You can always ask for 255 no? Also 30 is ok but like most people said the wheel might hit the brake. My rims are 38 and I have 7mm spacers and it's a hairline difference. So maybe depending on the spoke you will be able to make it fit. Also my spoke is little bit in so I have a slight feeling it might work. I mean they said it will fit Mercedes right? So call and confirm that if it will fit the w203 SS

I think it'll look hot. Whats the price for everything?
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Aug 26, 2009 | 05:21 PM
  #6509  
Price varies depending on the wheels you choose. For me if i were to get the cheapest wheel package it would cost me $2100 ish for the rims with nexen n3000 because of tax in CA.

i'm also debating if i should get this 19" stagger LM rep with tires .. or get real BBS LM 19" x 8.5 ET 32 for 2,000 w/ worn tires.
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Aug 26, 2009 | 05:39 PM
  #6510  
^^ do you know if they will clear the front brakes? I want them to
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Aug 26, 2009 | 05:50 PM
  #6511  
No I do not know it if it clear the brakes but the supplier is out of stock and will get more by the end of septemer.
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Aug 26, 2009 | 06:21 PM
  #6512  
Quote: if they clear the caliper you'll need to run 255's in the rear.

haven't seen anyone with LC lemans on MB yet.


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Aug 26, 2009 | 07:59 PM
  #6513  
Since they don't have the 19" staggered in stock.. they do have these 18x8.5 ( 5x112/ e35/57 ) in stock. Would the offsets be a problem?



what do you guys think would look better on a silver c230 SS? the 19" staggered silver lemans or the 18" non-staggered hyper black w/ polished lip.
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Aug 26, 2009 | 08:49 PM
  #6514  
^^Nooooo dont do it.

Quote: ? Offset directly effects brake clearance
not in most cases.

nevertheless
Quote: Offset doesn't matter for brake clearance. Spoke design and amount of material on Back of mounting face is what give you brake clearance.
^^true statement.

even if the manufacturing process requires that the moutning face is machined down to attain offset or spoke design is slightly changed for different offsets, clearing the calipers is still a matter of spoke design and mounting face, not offset(even though different offsets may affect those two factors).

for instance. an 8" wide wheel with +30 or -30 using the same spoke design and amount of material on back of mounting face will have identical amount of brake clearance. (for modular wheels, they use the same center but differing width inner/outer barrels to attain offset, which is why most wheels lip sizes differ with offsets.) also some use different disk types for brake clearance or maximum lip.

but a wheel 8" wide +30 or -30 that has a 60mm difference in the width of mounting face will have 60mm more brake clearance in the -30 offset application. (for 1 piece wheels that machine down the mounting face to attain higher offset)

then some single piece wheels also change the spoke profile to clear big calipers...

understand?
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Aug 27, 2009 | 04:52 AM
  #6515  
nice find mikey! the offset looks too much for the 210 tho. lol


offset and spokes back spacing BOTH affects caliper clearance. some wheel's face curves changes when offset is changed and some does not.
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Aug 27, 2009 | 04:54 AM
  #6516  
Quote: Price varies depending on the wheels you choose. For me if i were to get the cheapest wheel package it would cost me $2100 ish for the rims with nexen n3000 because of tax in CA.

i'm also debating if i should get this 19" stagger LM rep with tires .. or get real BBS LM 19" x 8.5 ET 32 for 2,000 w/ worn tires.
get the real deal if you can get them. although 8.5 will not be as good looking as staggered 8.5/9.5 they're still 100x better than reps.
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Aug 27, 2009 | 01:19 PM
  #6517  
Quote: ^^Nooooo dont do it.



not in most cases.

nevertheless

^^true statement.

even if the manufacturing process requires that the moutning face is machined down to attain offset or spoke design is slightly changed for different offsets, clearing the calipers is still a matter of spoke design and mounting face, not offset(even though different offsets may affect those two factors).

for instance. an 8" wide wheel with +30 or -30 using the same spoke design and amount of material on back of mounting face will have identical amount of brake clearance. (for modular wheels, they use the same center but differing width inner/outer barrels to attain offset, which is why most wheels lip sizes differ with offsets.) also some use different disk types for brake clearance or maximum lip.

but a wheel 8" wide +30 or -30 that has a 60mm difference in the width of mounting face will have 60mm more brake clearance in the -30 offset application. (for 1 piece wheels that machine down the mounting face to attain higher offset)

then some single piece wheels also change the spoke profile to clear big calipers...

understand?
Clearly & rubbish - for a given set of wheel parameters - offset - which is always measured from the clamping face of the wheel - effects brake clearance.
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Aug 27, 2009 | 06:06 PM
  #6518  
Quote: Clearly & rubbish - for a given set of wheel parameters - offset - which is always measured from the clamping face of the wheel - effects brake clearance.
rubbish?

can you expalin why my 17x7.5 +32 desmond's cleared my caliper but my 17x7.5 +32 advans did not?

Nevermind, ill do it for you:

X factor (measurement between spokes and moutning face) measures your brake clearance. Not offset.

Offset dictates your track width.
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Aug 27, 2009 | 06:13 PM
  #6519  
offset does not dictate your track width. It just is a measure of the mouning face in relation to the center of the wheel by width.

 

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Aug 27, 2009 | 06:15 PM
  #6520  
Quote: Since they don't have the 19" staggered in stock.. they do have these 18x8.5 ( 5x112/ e35/57 ) in stock. Would the offsets be a problem?



what do you guys think would look better on a silver c230 SS? the 19" staggered silver lemans or the 18" non-staggered hyper black w/ polished lip.
if you're gonna spent that much you can already buy my real single piece forged BBS RE lol.

shop around. you'll find way better deal than buying the more expensive replicas brand new.

and 8.5 ET35 with the flat design of the wheel probably won't clear the caliper up front.
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Aug 28, 2009 | 03:19 AM
  #6521  
yeah i saw your post i was thinking about buying it but sadly i have to get college books and fees and what not out of the way first before i drop 2,000 + for rims.

do you happen to have pictures of the rims you're selling on your car?
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Aug 28, 2009 | 03:40 AM
  #6522  
Quote: yeah i saw your post i was thinking about buying it but sadly i have to get college books and fees and what not out of the way first before i drop 2,000 + for rims.

do you happen to have pictures of the rims you're selling on your car?
lol...f the books. I've only bought books probably my freshman year. you learn to just borrow from friends and make copies. lol

pictures are all in the thread linked in my sig.
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Aug 28, 2009 | 03:54 AM
  #6523  
oh i seen the rims i want to see them on the car if that's no trouble
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Aug 28, 2009 | 05:00 AM
  #6524  
Quote: oh i seen the rims i want to see them on the car if that's no trouble


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Aug 28, 2009 | 06:04 AM
  #6525  
Quote: offset does not dictate your track width. It just is a measure of the mouning face in relation to the center of the wheel by width.
Precisely & for a given offset some spoke designs (setback) will foul the calipre & some won't.
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