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W203/CL203 Aftermarket Wheel Thread - All you want to know
08-25-2009, 04:53 PM
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08-25-2009, 05:13 PM
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That's not really what I asked. Rofl, Long time since I have seen those img's.
I figured out why I was confused. Mixed up your other rims from earlier post. The 10j's. Thought you were saying those were +27 but +30 wouldn't work.
Looks like you were running a 265/40 on the 10j's? Hard to tell on iPhone.
I figured out why I was confused. Mixed up your other rims from earlier post. The 10j's. Thought you were saying those were +27 but +30 wouldn't work.
Looks like you were running a 265/40 on the 10j's? Hard to tell on iPhone.
classic image yo! the answer lies in the pictures
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08-25-2009, 05:37 PM
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08-25-2009, 06:01 PM
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Offset directly effects brake clearance, as does spoke & wheel design
08-26-2009, 03:21 AM
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. lucky enough i didn't jump the gun yet.
08-26-2009, 03:33 AM
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I think it'll look hot. Whats the price for everything?
08-26-2009, 05:21 PM
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Price varies depending on the wheels you choose. For me if i were to get the cheapest wheel package it would cost me $2100 ish for the rims with nexen n3000 because of tax in CA. 
i'm also debating if i should get this 19" stagger LM rep with tires .. or get real BBS LM 19" x 8.5 ET 32 for 2,000 w/ worn tires.
i'm also debating if i should get this 19" stagger LM rep with tires .. or get real BBS LM 19" x 8.5 ET 32 for 2,000 w/ worn tires.
08-26-2009, 06:21 PM
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'05 C230K '10 GLK350 '13 SMART
08-26-2009, 07:59 PM
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Since they don't have the 19" staggered in stock.. they do have these 18x8.5 ( 5x112/ e35/57 ) in stock. Would the offsets be a problem?
what do you guys think would look better on a silver c230 SS? the 19" staggered silver lemans or the 18" non-staggered hyper black w/ polished lip.
what do you guys think would look better on a silver c230 SS? the 19" staggered silver lemans or the 18" non-staggered hyper black w/ polished lip.
08-26-2009, 08:49 PM
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^^Nooooo dont do it.
not in most cases.
nevertheless
^^true statement.
even if the manufacturing process requires that the moutning face is machined down to attain offset or spoke design is slightly changed for different offsets, clearing the calipers is still a matter of spoke design and mounting face, not offset(even though different offsets may affect those two factors).
for instance. an 8" wide wheel with +30 or -30 using the same spoke design and amount of material on back of mounting face will have identical amount of brake clearance. (for modular wheels, they use the same center but differing width inner/outer barrels to attain offset, which is why most wheels lip sizes differ with offsets.) also some use different disk types for brake clearance or maximum lip.
but a wheel 8" wide +30 or -30 that has a 60mm difference in the width of mounting face will have 60mm more brake clearance in the -30 offset application. (for 1 piece wheels that machine down the mounting face to attain higher offset)
then some single piece wheels also change the spoke profile to clear big calipers...
understand?
not in most cases.
nevertheless
even if the manufacturing process requires that the moutning face is machined down to attain offset or spoke design is slightly changed for different offsets, clearing the calipers is still a matter of spoke design and mounting face, not offset(even though different offsets may affect those two factors).
for instance. an 8" wide wheel with +30 or -30 using the same spoke design and amount of material on back of mounting face will have identical amount of brake clearance. (for modular wheels, they use the same center but differing width inner/outer barrels to attain offset, which is why most wheels lip sizes differ with offsets.) also some use different disk types for brake clearance or maximum lip.
but a wheel 8" wide +30 or -30 that has a 60mm difference in the width of mounting face will have 60mm more brake clearance in the -30 offset application. (for 1 piece wheels that machine down the mounting face to attain higher offset)
then some single piece wheels also change the spoke profile to clear big calipers...
understand?
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08-27-2009, 04:52 AM
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nice find mikey! the offset looks too much for the 210 tho. lol
offset and spokes back spacing BOTH affects caliper clearance. some wheel's face curves changes when offset is changed and some does not.
offset and spokes back spacing BOTH affects caliper clearance. some wheel's face curves changes when offset is changed and some does not.
08-27-2009, 04:54 AM
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Price varies depending on the wheels you choose. For me if i were to get the cheapest wheel package it would cost me $2100 ish for the rims with nexen n3000 because of tax in CA.
i'm also debating if i should get this 19" stagger LM rep with tires .. or get real BBS LM 19" x 8.5 ET 32 for 2,000 w/ worn tires.
i'm also debating if i should get this 19" stagger LM rep with tires .. or get real BBS LM 19" x 8.5 ET 32 for 2,000 w/ worn tires.
08-27-2009, 01:19 PM
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^^Nooooo dont do it.
not in most cases.
nevertheless
^^true statement.
even if the manufacturing process requires that the moutning face is machined down to attain offset or spoke design is slightly changed for different offsets, clearing the calipers is still a matter of spoke design and mounting face, not offset(even though different offsets may affect those two factors).
for instance. an 8" wide wheel with +30 or -30 using the same spoke design and amount of material on back of mounting face will have identical amount of brake clearance. (for modular wheels, they use the same center but differing width inner/outer barrels to attain offset, which is why most wheels lip sizes differ with offsets.) also some use different disk types for brake clearance or maximum lip.
but a wheel 8" wide +30 or -30 that has a 60mm difference in the width of mounting face will have 60mm more brake clearance in the -30 offset application. (for 1 piece wheels that machine down the mounting face to attain higher offset)
then some single piece wheels also change the spoke profile to clear big calipers...
understand?
not in most cases.
nevertheless
^^true statement.
even if the manufacturing process requires that the moutning face is machined down to attain offset or spoke design is slightly changed for different offsets, clearing the calipers is still a matter of spoke design and mounting face, not offset(even though different offsets may affect those two factors).
for instance. an 8" wide wheel with +30 or -30 using the same spoke design and amount of material on back of mounting face will have identical amount of brake clearance. (for modular wheels, they use the same center but differing width inner/outer barrels to attain offset, which is why most wheels lip sizes differ with offsets.) also some use different disk types for brake clearance or maximum lip.
but a wheel 8" wide +30 or -30 that has a 60mm difference in the width of mounting face will have 60mm more brake clearance in the -30 offset application. (for 1 piece wheels that machine down the mounting face to attain higher offset)
then some single piece wheels also change the spoke profile to clear big calipers...
understand?
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08-27-2009, 06:06 PM
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can you expalin why my 17x7.5 +32 desmond's cleared my caliper but my 17x7.5 +32 advans did not?
Nevermind, ill do it for you:
X factor (measurement between spokes and moutning face) measures your brake clearance. Not offset.
Offset dictates your track width.
08-27-2009, 06:13 PM
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offset does not dictate your track width. It just is a measure of the mouning face in relation to the center of the wheel by width.
08-27-2009, 06:15 PM
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Since they don't have the 19" staggered in stock.. they do have these 18x8.5 ( 5x112/ e35/57 ) in stock. Would the offsets be a problem?
what do you guys think would look better on a silver c230 SS? the 19" staggered silver lemans or the 18" non-staggered hyper black w/ polished lip.
what do you guys think would look better on a silver c230 SS? the 19" staggered silver lemans or the 18" non-staggered hyper black w/ polished lip.
shop around. you'll find way better deal than buying the more expensive replicas brand new.
and 8.5 ET35 with the flat design of the wheel probably won't clear the caliper up front.
08-28-2009, 03:19 AM
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yeah i saw your post i was thinking about buying it 
but sadly i have to get college books and fees and what not out of the way first before i drop 2,000 + for rims.
do you happen to have pictures of the rims you're selling on your car?
but sadly i have to get college books and fees and what not out of the way first before i drop 2,000 + for rims.do you happen to have pictures of the rims you're selling on your car?
08-28-2009, 03:40 AM
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pictures are all in the thread linked in my sig.
08-28-2009, 06:04 AM
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