C320 Coupe letdown
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C320 Coupe letdown
Well, we got two of the C320 coupes at my dealer. I knew they were coming but I thought they hadn't arrived yet. It turns out they had come in when I wasn't there and they have been sitting on the lot since friday. But there was no way to know it except for looking at the badge. There is nothing that makes it look any different from a 230. Both of these cars had leather, but it seems as if they will still come with cloth standard. And they did not have the digital climatronic. So all you are paying extra for is the engine.
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Originally posted by Matt230K
$27,300. Not worth it in my opinion. My pullied 230 gets more horsepower anyway.
$27,300. Not worth it in my opinion. My pullied 230 gets more horsepower anyway.
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Did you actually drive it?
Did you actually drive it?
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Originally posted by young
matt, i will do a straight swap for my c230k (real 2.3liter) w/ the c320. no, no... no need to thank me. i just want to help you get rid of it. it's just the kind of guy i am.
matt, i will do a straight swap for my c230k (real 2.3liter) w/ the c320. no, no... no need to thank me. i just want to help you get rid of it. it's just the kind of guy i am.
And the point of this thread was that the extra features were a let down. So please guys, don't turn this into another battle over which engine is better. I just am disappointed that there is no extra standard equipment on the 320, just the engine.
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Actually, when I purchased my 2002 C230 coupe I wished that the car had been available just as I had ordered only with the V6. I figured it would be about a $2K premium for the engine upgrade. I never thought that Mercedes would offer the coupe with the V6 unless there were other features offered as standard to raise the base price by more than my guestimated 2K. My reasoning was that the V6 would provide a noticeable improvement in increased power along with an even more noticeable improvement in decreased noise and vibration. I could justify the extra 2 grand for these combined improvements. Now that I've been driving my car for 10 1/2 months I realize I don't need the extra power (even though it would be fun to have it for those few times it might come into play) but I'm sure I would appreciate an improvement in regards to noise and vibration (even though my car is still smoother and quieter than almost any other car I may find myself riding in). I would still like to drive a C320 coupe to see what it's like.
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I think it is not quite legistimate to compare the 2003 C320 against the 2002 C230 2.3L, because the 02 C230 is no longer available now so people can only choose between the 1.8L and he 3.2L. If you compare it against the 03 C230 1.8L then the $2K difference is justifiable.
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I own a clk 320 and a c230. The trans on the 230k sucks. IT shifts like crap.
The 320 on the other hand is a beast. It has a hella lotta torque and sounds right. My 230 will never sound anything better than a friggin hoover vaccum.
Just my 2 cents but the 6 is quite a smooth and torquy beast, not to mention most of its toruq is on tap at low rpm thanks to the dual runner intake.
The c230 makes good lowend power, butthe 6 cylinnder revs so much quicker, more free revving, and just faster.
Just my opinion lol
The 320 on the other hand is a beast. It has a hella lotta torque and sounds right. My 230 will never sound anything better than a friggin hoover vaccum.
Just my 2 cents but the 6 is quite a smooth and torquy beast, not to mention most of its toruq is on tap at low rpm thanks to the dual runner intake.
The c230 makes good lowend power, butthe 6 cylinnder revs so much quicker, more free revving, and just faster.
Just my opinion lol
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Originally posted by 20FHK02
I think it is not quite legistimate to compare the 2003 C320 against the 2002 C230 2.3L, because the 02 C230 is no longer available now so people can only choose between the 1.8L and he 3.2L. If you compare it against the 03 C230 1.8L then the $2K difference is justifiable.
I think it is not quite legistimate to compare the 2003 C320 against the 2002 C230 2.3L, because the 02 C230 is no longer available now so people can only choose between the 1.8L and he 3.2L. If you compare it against the 03 C230 1.8L then the $2K difference is justifiable.
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Originally posted by Lynn
I don't understand your logic. Could you please explain the reason you feel the 2.3 is worth more than the 1.8?
I don't understand your logic. Could you please explain the reason you feel the 2.3 is worth more than the 1.8?
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Originally posted by trench
My guess is he's referring to the current pulley mod for the 2.3, which will deliver more power than the 3.2 V6 for less money (even for the more expensive tuners), add an intercooler and the 2.3 could be in the neighborhood of 230-240 hp.
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My guess is he's referring to the current pulley mod for the 2.3, which will deliver more power than the 3.2 V6 for less money (even for the more expensive tuners), add an intercooler and the 2.3 could be in the neighborhood of 230-240 hp.
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Actually, even for the case without a pulley upgrade, in a non-performance seeking person's point of view, $2k from a 1.8L engine to a 3.2L engine is more reasonable than from a 2.3L engine to a 3.2L engine. At least I myself would feel better if I bought the C320, thinking that my car's engine is significantly bigger than the 1.8L.
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Originally posted by Wheens
Isn't the delta between the 230 and the 320 $1630 ( $27,300 v. $25,670 msrp), not the $2K+ being used on this thread?
Isn't the delta between the 230 and the 320 $1630 ( $27,300 v. $25,670 msrp), not the $2K+ being used on this thread?
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I always heard the term ,"there is no replacement for displacement" lol
but, the 320 engine has I think 230 lbs of tq compared to the coupes 200 stock. Even with a pulley, the powerband will never match the 320 engine. U can make maybe a little more power at one peak on the torque curve, but the 320 engine will provided maximum toruqe from 2000-4400 rpm.
2 totally different engines, but I own a car with both. I really like the 320 better, it just revs alot quicker and feels to have ALOT more pull. This is coming from someone who owns a convertible too, which weighs like 3600 lbs. More than the coupe.
but, the 320 engine has I think 230 lbs of tq compared to the coupes 200 stock. Even with a pulley, the powerband will never match the 320 engine. U can make maybe a little more power at one peak on the torque curve, but the 320 engine will provided maximum toruqe from 2000-4400 rpm.
2 totally different engines, but I own a car with both. I really like the 320 better, it just revs alot quicker and feels to have ALOT more pull. This is coming from someone who owns a convertible too, which weighs like 3600 lbs. More than the coupe.
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Originally posted by x15jq
but, the 320 engine has I think 230 lbs of tq compared to the coupes 200 stock. Even with a pulley, the powerband will never match the 320 engine. U can make maybe a little more power at one peak on the torque curve, but the 320 engine will provided maximum toruqe from 2000-4400 rpm.
but, the 320 engine has I think 230 lbs of tq compared to the coupes 200 stock. Even with a pulley, the powerband will never match the 320 engine. U can make maybe a little more power at one peak on the torque curve, but the 320 engine will provided maximum toruqe from 2000-4400 rpm.
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The main reason I demanded an 02 coupe was becasue of that. I dont know if anyone noticed, but yes the 03 has a very similar hp 189, but the max torque is narrow and only produced from 3500-4000 rpm. The 2.3 seems pretty linear and it does have a punch, just a different technology than teh 6. I love my kompressor tho, and will always rip it!
The only thing I wish was better was teh auto trans. IT seems like a cheep knockoff Mb unit compared to my clk. The shifts are crap and SLOOOOOOOOOW. Sometimes when i punch it to kickdown position, it hangs at the redline for like 2-3 seconds then decides to switch. Maybe I should just try going to the dealer to get the shiftpoints or driver adaptiveness crap reset?
3500 miles and ive burned 1.5 qts of oil wohoo!
The only thing I wish was better was teh auto trans. IT seems like a cheep knockoff Mb unit compared to my clk. The shifts are crap and SLOOOOOOOOOW. Sometimes when i punch it to kickdown position, it hangs at the redline for like 2-3 seconds then decides to switch. Maybe I should just try going to the dealer to get the shiftpoints or driver adaptiveness crap reset?
3500 miles and ive burned 1.5 qts of oil wohoo!
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Originally posted by Wheens
Isn't the delta between the 230 and the 320 $1630 ( $27,300 v. $25,670 msrp), not the $2K+ being used on this thread?
Isn't the delta between the 230 and the 320 $1630 ( $27,300 v. $25,670 msrp), not the $2K+ being used on this thread?
...hehe just kidding.
