need more negative front CAMBER
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need more negative front CAMBER
have 06 c350 MT, lowered car with kw v2 . i added dunlop star spec tires and car sticks like glue on east tenn mountain roads, a real blast, only problem is outter shoulder is worn off while rest of tire has about 30% tread left. any suggestions? im told that coil overs have no camber adjustment , but i think i remember reading somewhere that a thick washer can be added somewhere to accompish adding more negative camber. thanx, mike
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ive read the thread but am confused, ive been told that camber cant be adjusted w a coilover (c/o), i also remember hearing that the kmac camber plates are cr#p, my rear camber seems fine, im only concerned about getting some more negative camber on the FRONT ONLY as the outer shoulders of the front tires are worn while the rest of the tire has 30% tread left, thnx, mike
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Variable camber depending on wheel turn. At straight ahead it is slightly negative standard.
As e1000 says you can increase negative camber by location of 3 position bolts in the camber bushes, thereby going out of spec.
As e1000 says you can increase negative camber by location of 3 position bolts in the camber bushes, thereby going out of spec.
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ok, i think im getting it, replace 6 bolts, (3 left and 3 right) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, part # 000 330 0018 ( times 2 sets). with these installed on lowered car on kw v2 , ca, what caster, camber , and toe should i aim for to get an aggressive street set up?? thanx for all the info, i printed out the retaining bolt diagram and the chart for my suspension guy, mike
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ok, i think im getting it, replace 6 bolts, (3 left and 3 right) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, part # 000 330 0018 ( times 2 sets). with these installed on lowered car on kw v2 , ca, what caster, camber , and toe should i aim for to get an aggressive street set up?? thanx for all the info, i printed out the retaining bolt diagram and the chart for my suspension guy, mike
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Frank - I think you have a particularly well set up car - When I've looked at your pics I can see the tyre wear is even.
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Im glad I'm not that crazy.
I had around -2 camber (or more) on all four corners for 35k+ miles on my tires... Only my rears have worn unevenly and that was on the inner side. I drive it hard and all, but I have a hard time imagining how my front tire wear could be more on the outside.
Additionally, the hardware for all of the adjustability up front is not easy to install. IIRC, it requires a hydraulic press?
mlg: maybe have your alignment checked first! Check out Firestone - they have a 140 dollar life time alignment deal. Nationwide coverage too. You pay up front and you can go back as much as you want.
Good luck
I had around -2 camber (or more) on all four corners for 35k+ miles on my tires... Only my rears have worn unevenly and that was on the inner side. I drive it hard and all, but I have a hard time imagining how my front tire wear could be more on the outside.
Additionally, the hardware for all of the adjustability up front is not easy to install. IIRC, it requires a hydraulic press?
mlg: maybe have your alignment checked first! Check out Firestone - they have a 140 dollar life time alignment deal. Nationwide coverage too. You pay up front and you can go back as much as you want.
Good luck
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Im glad I'm not that crazy.
I had around -2 camber (or more) on all four corners for 35k+ miles on my tires... Only my rears have worn unevenly and that was on the inner side. I drive it hard and all, but I have a hard time imagining how my front tire wear could be more on the outside.
Additionally, the hardware for all of the adjustability up front is not easy to install. IIRC, it requires a hydraulic press?
mlg: maybe have your alignment checked first! Check out Firestone - they have a 140 dollar life time alignment deal. Nationwide coverage too. You pay up front and you can go back as much as you want.
Good luck
I had around -2 camber (or more) on all four corners for 35k+ miles on my tires... Only my rears have worn unevenly and that was on the inner side. I drive it hard and all, but I have a hard time imagining how my front tire wear could be more on the outside.
Additionally, the hardware for all of the adjustability up front is not easy to install. IIRC, it requires a hydraulic press?
mlg: maybe have your alignment checked first! Check out Firestone - they have a 140 dollar life time alignment deal. Nationwide coverage too. You pay up front and you can go back as much as you want.
Good luck
My car with dead stock set up wears the outer front edge of the front tyres slightly more than inside.
The best thing to do is to get the bolts & then go along for your wheel alignment. They will pop the bolts in while they are doing the alignment then you have the adjustability. My alignment shop even supplied the genuine Merc bolts. They carry them in stock for this reason. Every alignment shop in South Africa has Merc castor & camber bolts.
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glyn, are u lowered? thanx for the spec sheet on your alignment. thanx to all for all the suggs, i also thought that toe in was an issue , but took it to my alignment guy and he said toe was fine.
thanx for Firestone idea, sounds inviting.
any suggs for goal 1) camber---Maybe -2 degrees like trutang , 2) caster , and 3) toe for my car for aggressive street driving?? thanx again, mike
thanx for Firestone idea, sounds inviting.
any suggs for goal 1) camber---Maybe -2 degrees like trutang , 2) caster , and 3) toe for my car for aggressive street driving?? thanx again, mike
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It’s ghetto, but the “washer mod” has been used successfully by several respected members (smgC32, Zeppelin, MRAMG1, CynCarvin32) to gain additional negative camber in the front.
If you’re unable to achieve relatively even front tire pyrometer readings or wear during spirited driving after having fit MB’s eccentric bolts, inserting a washer between the two lower strut bolt mounts and the steering knuckle will provide an additional ~-3/4 degree. It is akin to adding alignment shims to an A-arm suspension.
Just today dropped another $1050 on a set of Michelins; I’d rather they last as long as possible.
If you’re unable to achieve relatively even front tire pyrometer readings or wear during spirited driving after having fit MB’s eccentric bolts, inserting a washer between the two lower strut bolt mounts and the steering knuckle will provide an additional ~-3/4 degree. It is akin to adding alignment shims to an A-arm suspension.
Just today dropped another $1050 on a set of Michelins; I’d rather they last as long as possible.
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splinter, thanx for the washer idea, i thought i had heard that a while back,,,, so do i need 2 - or - 4 eccentric bolts? and if 2 , are they replaced on the lower control arm ? thanx, cant wait to get my car dialed in that last bit.!!!
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glyn, are u lowered? thanx for the spec sheet on your alignment. thanx to all for all the suggs, i also thought that toe in was an issue , but took it to my alignment guy and he said toe was fine.
thanx for Firestone idea, sounds inviting.
any suggs for goal 1) camber---Maybe -2 degrees like trutang , 2) caster , and 3) toe for my car for aggressive street driving?? thanx again, mike
thanx for Firestone idea, sounds inviting.
any suggs for goal 1) camber---Maybe -2 degrees like trutang , 2) caster , and 3) toe for my car for aggressive street driving?? thanx again, mike
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It’s ghetto, but the “washer mod” has been used successfully by several respected members (smgC32, Zeppelin, MRAMG1, CynCarvin32) to gain additional negative camber in the front.
If you’re unable to achieve relatively even front tire pyrometer readings or wear during spirited driving after having fit MB’s eccentric bolts, inserting a washer between the two lower strut bolt mounts and the steering knuckle will provide an additional ~-3/4 degree. It is akin to adding alignment shims to an A-arm suspension.
Just today dropped another $1050 on a set of Michelins; I’d rather they last as long as possible.
If you’re unable to achieve relatively even front tire pyrometer readings or wear during spirited driving after having fit MB’s eccentric bolts, inserting a washer between the two lower strut bolt mounts and the steering knuckle will provide an additional ~-3/4 degree. It is akin to adding alignment shims to an A-arm suspension.
Just today dropped another $1050 on a set of Michelins; I’d rather they last as long as possible.
Did you get PS2s?
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