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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Angry Now.... what's this???

I got this message today....


What could it be now ??? This car is so sensitive.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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wait till your car is cool and in a level area and check the level of the coolant make sure its not too low
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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I checked the level and it's ok, like it's supposed to be. (at least I think so :-) )

Oh I forgot to say.... the A/C also stopped working, the motor inside the car works, but it's not blowing any cold at all.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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Oh I forgot to say.... the A/C also stopped working, the motor inside the car works, but it's not blowing any cold at all.
What year is your car? The early W203s have a known problem with poor quality condensers that leak. Thank you MB for yet another subpar part. You're looking at a > $1000 fix.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hubertt
I checked the level and it's ok, like it's supposed to be. (at least I think so :-) )

Oh I forgot to say.... the A/C also stopped working, the motor inside the car works, but it's not blowing any cold at all.
I had an A/C problem last year. Dealer said it was a leak. It was fixed under warranty.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Was that picture taken with the car fully warmed up? If so, the temperature is too low and you probably have a thermostat stuck open.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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Was that picture taken with the car fully warmed up? If so, the temperature is too low and you probably have a thermostat stuck open.
Yes... I took that picture as soon as I got back home. I must say that the temp never passed the 80 degrees. It was stuck there while driving.

This is kind of frustrating.

BTW, the car is 2001 C180 ( yes.... European model)
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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I agree with Monte..if your car is fully warmed up, then that does appear to be too low of coolant temp. T stat would be the first place to start checking. Good luck on it and let us know what it turns out to be. The good news is that it is not overheating.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Thats probably about as easy of a fix as you could hope for.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Has it thrown any codes? A P0128 signifies a bad thermostat. There has been a rash of them lately (at least those reported by forum members). There are a couple of recently-created (last few weeks) threads.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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FWIW, I had one too and threw a code, but I didn't start a thread about it b/c it's still under warranty so I just let them worry about it.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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The thermostat opens at 87 dec C so that is a P0128.

P0128 Coolant Thermostat (Coolant Temperature Below
Thermostat Regulating Temperature)
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Ok...good news..... it IS indeed the thermostat gone bad. But bad news is the dealer here does not have it in stock.... anybody can help me out with the part #??

I even got a DIY....thermostat replacement file... :-)

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Where are you? I see your car is a C180
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hubertt
I got this message today....


What could it be now ??? This car is so sensitive.
My car has been throwing this message at me since i got it and it's been over 2.5 years. The AC works fine, with the exception of the stepper motor issue, the coolant level is where it should be and the has always run at normal operating temp.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Ryan - does your car have headlamp washers? Sometimes they wire them into the same circuit in some markets & if washer fluid is low or the washer fluid heater is blown it gives the same message. Crazy but true - I don't know whether this applies to the US. I suspect that this might apply to my car but no one can tell me & I've never used the washers.

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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Ryan - does your car have headlamp washers? Sometimes they wire them into the same circuit in some markets & if washer fluid is low or the washer fluid heater is blown it gives the same message. Crazy but true - I don't know whether this applies to the US. I suspect that this might apply to my car but no one can tell me & I've never used the washers.
Yes, i do have headlamp washers. I've heard that low fluid can trigger that message. The washer fluid is full but it very well could be that the heater is blown. I've used them just a few times but i've never really paid attention to the temperature of the fluid. Its something i can live without but i sure do like the look of the washer covers on the bumper.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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Where are you? I see your car is a C180
I'm from Aruba...Caribbean island.
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Its something i can live without but i sure do like the look of the washer covers on the bumper.
Me too
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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I'm from Aruba...Caribbean island.
You lucky guy - the Lesser Antilles in the South - I have a good friend on Martinique
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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I forgot to ask..... since I have to order this thermostat myself.... my BIG question is.... : " Can I still drive this car while I'm waiting for a new thermostat?" Let's say short distances, where I live is a just a tiny island.

Just wondering....
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hubertt
I forgot to ask..... since I have to order this thermostat myself.... my BIG question is.... : " Can I still drive this car while I'm waiting for a new thermostat?" Let's say short distances, where I live is a just a tiny island.

Just wondering....
Yes you can drive it. Just don't thrash it until you get it running at the desired temperature. Just drive it gently.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Yes you can drive it. Just don't thrash it until you get it running at the desired temperature. Just drive it gently.
Thanks for that quick response. I will definately drive gently.


Dankie.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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but i sure do like the look of the washer covers on the bumper.
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Me too
+1. Plus it makes for a good show for your friends to ooh and ahh over when you're showing off your car. That, and the opening/closing of all the windows and moonroof from your key fob.

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Originally Posted by hubertt
Thanks for that quick response. I will definately drive gently.


Dankie.
I would scroll to the temp display on the MFD, and keep an eye on it as I drive. I shouldn't go much above 80C, but 100C is still OK 120C is getting a bit hot....I imagine the car would tell you...
damn car...it's thinks it so smart.
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