Renntech will give your C320 an extra 47 BHP for $15, 000....
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Renntech will give your C320 an extra 47 BHP for $15, 000....
Is it just me or is this just a completely ridiculous idea??? Why would you pay an extra $15, 000 to get 47 horses from a non-warrantied renntech company when you could have paid this much more for a C32 AMG and got an extra 134 HP under warranty? Not to mention many other featuers included in this extra price....please explain if anyone can justify buying this.
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Re: Renntech will give your C320 an extra 47 BHP for $15, 000....
Originally posted by lorinserc320
non-warrantied renntech company
non-warrantied renntech company
Renntech warranties there work and parts includeing the ecu if upgraded. Not every one does. The development on c320 was before the C32 came out. Have you priced a swap from a c320 to an AMG C32 it's more than 15,000. It's more than 18,000 for that matter. the 3.8 renntech and amg c32 would be a good race. The power bands are diffrent.
Why are some on this board so negative toward Renntech ? They offer a good product line, warranty their work. No they arn't for everybody, but in the automotive circles they are respected.
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Randy, whether warranted or not ...
it seems like there's the idea out there that Renntech-equipped cars break down more frequently than others.
There was a comparison article in C&D that had a Renntech clk, I think, where their car just died out on the track. Wasn't the best advertising for the brand.
People seem to think that you should be able to add 50hp for $500 with no impact on the warranty or longevity of the car. $15k doesn't really seem like alot for serious tuning of a Benz engine to me. Benz and easy aftermarket products are mutually exclusive.
There was a comparison article in C&D that had a Renntech clk, I think, where their car just died out on the track. Wasn't the best advertising for the brand.
People seem to think that you should be able to add 50hp for $500 with no impact on the warranty or longevity of the car. $15k doesn't really seem like alot for serious tuning of a Benz engine to me. Benz and easy aftermarket products are mutually exclusive.
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Re: Re: Renntech will give your C320 an extra 47 BHP for $15, 000....
Originally posted by renncpe
Have you priced a swap from a c320 to an AMG C32 it's more than 15,000. It's more than 18,000 for that matter. Randy
Have you priced a swap from a c320 to an AMG C32 it's more than 15,000. It's more than 18,000 for that matter. Randy
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Yeah! they warranty their parts and labor. Big Deal, where talking about the head gaskets, pistons, cylinder block, heads and all the expensive stuff - they don't warranty that.
Price difference between C320 and C32 is: $10-15K. A Fully loaded C320 cost $40k, a standard C32 cost $49.9k. But the standard C32 has the same plus more features than the loaded C320.
I'll take the C32 and warranty.
Price difference between C320 and C32 is: $10-15K. A Fully loaded C320 cost $40k, a standard C32 cost $49.9k. But the standard C32 has the same plus more features than the loaded C320.
I'll take the C32 and warranty.
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Originally posted by Zeppelin
Yeah! they warranty their parts and labor. Big Deal, where talking about the head gaskets, pistons, cylinder block, heads and all the expensive stuff - they don't warranty that.
Price difference between C320 and C32 is: $10-15K. A Fully loaded C320 cost $40k, a standard C32 cost $49.9k. But the standard C32 has the same plus more features than the loaded C320.
I'll take the C32 and warranty.
Yeah! they warranty their parts and labor. Big Deal, where talking about the head gaskets, pistons, cylinder block, heads and all the expensive stuff - they don't warranty that.
Price difference between C320 and C32 is: $10-15K. A Fully loaded C320 cost $40k, a standard C32 cost $49.9k. But the standard C32 has the same plus more features than the loaded C320.
I'll take the C32 and warranty.
I was talking about an engine swap not the diffrence in MSRP. Lets say you bought a C320 in 2001 now trade it in and buy a C32 how much will that cost you. I'm sure it will be more than the diffrence in msrp.
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Kleemann's extra 115hp for only $8,400 seems like such a better deal?
I was told that renntech engline mods will void MB warranty? Will Kleemann's? Cause right now it is the only one I am considering buying....comparison:
Kleemann 331hp/ 302lb-ft $8,400
Renntech 262hp/ 294lb-ft $14,850
*Brabus 400hp/ 579lb-ft $35,000 (approx.)
*Not positive about Brabus info it was given to me by a friend, can anyone confirm...?
Kleemann 331hp/ 302lb-ft $8,400
Renntech 262hp/ 294lb-ft $14,850
*Brabus 400hp/ 579lb-ft $35,000 (approx.)
*Not positive about Brabus info it was given to me by a friend, can anyone confirm...?
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Re: Kleemann's extra 115hp for only $8,400 seems like such a better deal?
Originally posted by lorinserc320
I was told that renntech engline mods will void MB warranty? Will Kleemann's? Cause right now it is the only one I am considering buying....comparison:
Kleemann 331hp/ 302lb-ft $8,400
Renntech 262hp/ 294lb-ft $14,850
*Brabus 400hp/ 579lb-ft $35,000 (approx.)
*Not positive about Brabus info it was given to me by a friend, can anyone confirm...?
I was told that renntech engline mods will void MB warranty? Will Kleemann's? Cause right now it is the only one I am considering buying....comparison:
Kleemann 331hp/ 302lb-ft $8,400
Renntech 262hp/ 294lb-ft $14,850
*Brabus 400hp/ 579lb-ft $35,000 (approx.)
*Not positive about Brabus info it was given to me by a friend, can anyone confirm...?
The kleeman kit does not include any work on the engine, or transmission. You might consider that when adding extra HP it is a sure fire way to find the weakest link in the drive train, or engine.
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Or look at it the other way:
The Kleemann kit does not intrude on the engine, thus leaving your engine as stock and able to be serviced normally.
Kleemann drives all of their cars to their events, recently driving from Colorado to Willow Springs, CA for a track event including their E320K, CLK430K, and E55K. All of the cars made it i one piece, and I imagine they made it home the same.
I personally have talked to the owner of a CLK430K with 30,000 miles on it. He is an auto-technician, and is more than impressed with the quality and reliability of the Kleemann products.
Lorinserc320,
While I'm not sure, I think that your Brabus numbers would reflect a 5.8L+ engine. This is usually done in the V8, not the 6. If they were to switch the engine to an 8, then I would think that the numbers are feasible. However, the engine will way much more. The Kleemann systems typically get 100HP for every liter, and besides your "happy foot" you may experience with the supercharger, they won't hurt/kill your gas mileage the way a 6L engine will.
The Kleemann kit does not intrude on the engine, thus leaving your engine as stock and able to be serviced normally.
Kleemann drives all of their cars to their events, recently driving from Colorado to Willow Springs, CA for a track event including their E320K, CLK430K, and E55K. All of the cars made it i one piece, and I imagine they made it home the same.
I personally have talked to the owner of a CLK430K with 30,000 miles on it. He is an auto-technician, and is more than impressed with the quality and reliability of the Kleemann products.
Lorinserc320,
While I'm not sure, I think that your Brabus numbers would reflect a 5.8L+ engine. This is usually done in the V8, not the 6. If they were to switch the engine to an 8, then I would think that the numbers are feasible. However, the engine will way much more. The Kleemann systems typically get 100HP for every liter, and besides your "happy foot" you may experience with the supercharger, they won't hurt/kill your gas mileage the way a 6L engine will.
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Originally posted by Mach430
Or look at it the other way:
The Kleemann kit does not intrude on the engine, thus leaving your engine as stock and able to be serviced normally.
Kleemann drives all of their cars to their events, recently driving from Colorado to Willow Springs, CA for a track event including their E320K, CLK430K, and E55K. All of the cars made it i one piece, and I imagine they made it home the same.
I personally have talked to the owner of a CLK430K with 30,000 miles on it. He is an auto-technician, and is more than impressed with the quality and reliability of the Kleemann products.
Lorinserc320,
While I'm not sure, I think that your Brabus numbers would reflect a 5.8L+ engine. This is usually done in the V8, not the 6. If they were to switch the engine to an 8, then I would think that the numbers are feasible. However, the engine will way much more. The Kleemann systems typically get 100HP for every liter, and besides your "happy foot" you may experience with the supercharger, they won't hurt/kill your gas mileage the way a 6L engine will.
Or look at it the other way:
The Kleemann kit does not intrude on the engine, thus leaving your engine as stock and able to be serviced normally.
Kleemann drives all of their cars to their events, recently driving from Colorado to Willow Springs, CA for a track event including their E320K, CLK430K, and E55K. All of the cars made it i one piece, and I imagine they made it home the same.
I personally have talked to the owner of a CLK430K with 30,000 miles on it. He is an auto-technician, and is more than impressed with the quality and reliability of the Kleemann products.
Lorinserc320,
While I'm not sure, I think that your Brabus numbers would reflect a 5.8L+ engine. This is usually done in the V8, not the 6. If they were to switch the engine to an 8, then I would think that the numbers are feasible. However, the engine will way much more. The Kleemann systems typically get 100HP for every liter, and besides your "happy foot" you may experience with the supercharger, they won't hurt/kill your gas mileage the way a 6L engine will.
Both companies are quility companies, they do diffrent things.
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I really like RennTech and I also like what they have done for the Mercedes tuning community, even though it's a very small one. The thing is that's it's really expensive, that's why people sort of have a negative comment towards them, but I don't. I understand that tuning a Mercedes engine is not an easy process, it's very hard to do, and you have to do it right, that's why it's so expensive. If you don't like it, you don't have to buy the kit. Yes, their kits are very expensive, but hey thats the cost. It is what it is. It's expensive to tune a Mercedes engine so just leave it at that.
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Hmm...I think the prices are way too high on all Mercedes tuners. The dollar to horsepower ratio is absurd. Id rather buy a C32 then try to modify my car or any Mercedes. Im looking to buy a used talon and modifying that. So cheap and so bang for the buck. 12 second quarter mile here I come!
