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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Well i have been trying to work out a group buy on the renntech pulley for a while and this is the best they can do on 10 pulley's, We only need 9 other people since i would do it. The price will be $1,444 for the whole Renntech Pulley kit and the Renntech airfilter they include.

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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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I wish you luck, but I don't think you're going to find 10 people here. I don't even think the group buy for the $350 spoiler had 10 people. Also, most of the people here who want pulleys already have them. The new members all have '03's.

If you really want to go RennTech, you better just pay full price, or else you'll be waiting forever to get 10 people. Hate to burst your bubble, but you gotta think realistically.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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very true i second that motion,couldn't of said it any better,sorry,but good luck
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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I wish you luck, but I don't think you're going to find 10 people here. I don't even think the group buy for the $350 spoiler had 10 people. Also, most of the people here who want pulleys already have them. The new members all have '03's.

If you really want to go RennTech, you better just pay full price, or else you'll be waiting forever to get 10 people. Hate to burst your bubble, but you gotta think realistically.

Diden't burst my bubble, u told me nothing i diden't know already. I was planning on paying full price for the renntech pulley very soon but i thought before i did that i would try this and see if there are any takers. I was arguing with renntech that $1,4xx is not that big of a difference away from $1,6xx, but he said that they are not looking to work out any deals, I told him i dont think he will get anyone but he told me to try, so since i was planning on getting it soon, i said what the hell. The responses to this thread and if anymore are about just what i was expecting.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 11:35 PM
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Diden't burst my bubble, u told me nothing i diden't know already. I was planning on paying full price for the renntech pulley very soon but i thought before i did that i would try this and see if there are any takers. I was arguing with renntech that $1,4xx is not that big of a difference away from $1,6xx, but he said that they are not looking to work out any deals, I told him i dont think he will get anyone but he told me to try, so since i was planning on getting it soon, i said what the hell. The responses to this thread and if anymore are about just what i was expecting.
Either way, that's a ludicrous amount of money to spend on ***just a pulley***

Sorry.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:02 AM
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Hello BlackC230Coupe

I was contemplating getting the renntech pulley too. Who did you talk to? Even the 14xx amount seems high to me. If I remember correctly way back last year there was some group buy for about 1200-1300.

Can anyone please explain what is the "harmonic dampener" that the renntech (and factory) pulley comes with? And why is it a good idea to have it. And does it matter to have it.

THANKS!
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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VoyagerDude, this has been discussed extensively in several thread. Rather than start the debate again here, please search the forum.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:08 AM
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but I felt lazy today
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:19 AM
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OK Lynn,

but I felt lazy today
I can relate to that.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:27 AM
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You can always get the Renntech style ASP pulley for $200. I'll even put a group buy together, get 10 people that want it and I'll talk to Lee and see if we can get it for $199. Than you can have your damper and eat it to! (or is that cake). It's made the same way using a factory damper (yours) and a pressed on ring and then rebalanced. You will have to buy your own belt for $20 and your own ITG/Renntech airfilter for $60. Just remember, if you don't get 10 people the price jumps back up to $200.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Haha funny

Buellwinkle, with the ASP pulley, would we not spin the alternator faster?

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You can always get the Renntech style ASP pulley for $200. I'll even put a group buy together, get 10 people that want it and I'll talk to Lee and see if we can get it for $199. Than you can have your damper and eat it to! (or is that cake). It's made the same way using a factory damper (yours) and a pressed on ring and then rebalanced. You will have to buy your own belt for $20 and your own ITG/Renntech airfilter for $60. Just remember, if you don't get 10 people the price jumps back up to $200.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by VoyagerDude
Haha funny

Buellwinkle, with the ASP pulley, would we not spin the alternator faster?

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Renntech doesn't provide an alternatory pulley so it would spin the same, about 19% faster. Besides, ASP will make you an alternator pulley for $50 but I didn't include that in the fabulous group buy.

On a related note, I was watching one of those car shows on Saturday morning on TNN and they were installing billet overdrive pulleys on a brand new large V8 to improve some low rpm engine cooling, charging and A/C operation. That was a new one on me. If you sit in traffic and around town driving a lot it makes sense.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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So for $350 you'd have both the new pulley (with the steel centre) and and a new smaller alternator pulley? That seems good. Has ASP done this alternator pulley for anyone yet?

Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Renntech doesn't provide an alternatory pulley so it would spin the same, about 19% faster. Besides, ASP will make you an alternator pulley for $50 but I didn't include that in the fabulous group buy.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Has ASP done this alternator pulley for anyone yet?
Yes, Linh ordered it that way but he never put it on.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
to improve some low rpm engine cooling
Does an overdriven water pump really help cooling? Sure the water spends less time in the engine, but it also spends less time in the radiator. I don't know the answer to this, but I'm curious as to which way is better. Anyone know?
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by VoyagerDude
Hello BlackC230Coupe

I was contemplating getting the renntech pulley too. Who did you talk to? Even the 14xx amount seems high to me. If I remember correctly way back last year there was some group buy for about 1200-1300.

I spoke to brian at renntech. i also remember about 6 months ago renntech send me a pdf and the pulley was 1,4xx and now its 1,6xx.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Renntech doesn't provide an alternatory pulley
I am 99% sure that the kit does come with an alternator pulley.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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That's new then. When Young got his I thought he said it came with the crank pulley and an idler or tensioner pulley.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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So is there any difference between the ASP pulley and the Renntech? Maybe it's just me, but I'm hesitant about ASP due to the problems others have had. Not to assume ASP is all bad, but if buying Renntech means I'm not going to have my pulley shearing off, I'll pay the extra amount. Also, isn't Renntech warranty better?
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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I believe the ASP ring type pulley is almost identical to the Renntech pulley, both of which use a stock pulley as the base so they will never shear off. So the main difference is a $500 ASP (ring + one spare stock pulley) and a $1600 Renntech.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
That's new then. When Young got his I thought he said it came with the crank pulley and an idler or tensioner pulley.
You may be right, i knew the kit came with another pulley but i was not 100% sure which one. Maybe it was the idler pulley i was thinking about, i would have to call renntech to find out.


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I believe the ASP ring type pulley is almost identical to the Renntech pulley, both of which use a stock pulley as the base so they will never shear off. So the main difference is a $500 ASP (ring + one spare stock pulley) and a $1600 Renntech.
I dont think the main difference is just the price. Thats like us saying the original ASP solid pulley is identical to the kleemann pulley, They may have small differences but they still have their differences. Nothing was proven that the shared pulley was definitly a faulty install but a problem still sheard on the ASP and alot of people have the Kleemann and nothing happend. The renntech "style" ASP pulley may be similar to the renntech "real" pulley but again they will not be identical so they will definitly have their small differences which may make a big difference.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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Get it, any pulley, you'll love it, I know I love mine!

The only issue with the Renntech pulley (besides price) is that they don't have enough of them out there so it's not really proven in the field. It's hard to evaluate reliability when there are only 2 people on the forums that have it compared to about 35-40 with ASP. Sure they may have sold more outside the forum but we'll never really know if they had problems or success. Personally, I don't like the design or I would have the ASP ring pulley in my car, after all it's a lot cheaper than the ASP alloy pulley. Same is true for Kleemann, they offer a ring style pulley but people still prefer the alloy pulley. This is my non-profesional opinion, just my feeling and you have to do what works for you.

If you do decide on the Kleemann ring pulley by chance I'm pretty sure that MagmaSLK is still trying to sell his and it's brand new.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Get it, any pulley, you'll love it, I know I love mine!

The only issue with the Renntech pulley (besides price) is that they don't have enough of them out there so it's not really proven in the field. It's hard to evaluate reliability when there are only 2 people on the forums that have it compared to about 35-40 with ASP. Sure they may have sold more outside the forum but we'll never really know if they had problems or success. Personally, I don't like the design or I would have the ASP ring pulley in my car, after all it's a lot cheaper than the ASP alloy pulley. Same is true for Kleemann, they offer a ring style pulley but people still prefer the alloy pulley. This is my non-profesional opinion, just my feeling and you have to do what works for you.

If you do decide on the Kleemann ring pulley by chance I'm pretty sure that MagmaSLK is still trying to sell his and it's brand new.
Well soon i better get one of the pulleys. I was very close to having my ASP on. What dont u like about you like about the renntech design. I bet if it gave the same power as the ASP or kleemann for 500$ people would love the design. People may only perfer alloy pulleys because they give more power.

Why is magma-SLK selling the ring?
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There are only 2 types of pulleys, the solid pulley like the Kleemann and ASP alloy pulleys and factory pulleys with a ring on them (Renntech, Kleemann ring, Carlsson and Vaeth). The issue I have with the ring type is it's just heavy and when I do a pulley I'm looking for maximum power and yes, that means a solid pulley without a damper but that's a risk I'm willing to take based on what I've research on the all the old SLK230 and C230K sedans that have run solid pulleys for a long time. That doesn't mean I don't see the point of a ring pulley and the damper, it's just not what I would do (or did). And I don't want to get into a long discussion on the merits of a damper, it's a matter of choice and I think I know what I'm doing so in my own mind I've made the right decision.

Now if I went with a ring type of pulley and ASP was not an option and money is no object I would go with Vaeth because the workmanship in his pulleys is great, he welds on the additional material onto the factory pulley and then remachines, rebalances and recoats it so it looks and functions exactly like a factory pulley that grew 20%, truly a work of art and it's less at $1,200. It doesn't have that seperate add on ring look that you get from other pulleys of this type like Kleemann, Carlsson and Renntech. To me it looks cheezy and maybe I can live with it for $500 but not for $1,600. I can send you pics of the Vaeth and you can compare that to the others and see the difference. I've never seen the Brabus pulley but if money was truly no object I would look into it.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
There are only 2 types of pulleys, the solid pulley like the Kleemann and ASP alloy pulleys and factory pulleys with a ring on them (Renntech, Kleemann ring, Carlsson and Vaeth). The issue I have with the ring type is it's just heavy and when I do a pulley I'm looking for maximum power and yes, that means a solid pulley without a damper but that's a risk I'm willing to take based on what I've research on the all the old SLK230 and C230K sedans that have run solid pulleys for a long time. That doesn't mean I don't see the point of a ring pulley and the damper, it's just not what I would do (or did). And I don't want to get into a long discussion on the merits of a damper, it's a matter of choice and I think I know what I'm doing so in my own mind I've made the right decision.

Now if I went with a ring type of pulley and ASP was not an option and money is no object I would go with Vaeth because the workmanship in his pulleys is great, he welds on the additional material onto the factory pulley and then remachines, rebalances and recoats it so it looks and functions exactly like a factory pulley that grew 20%, truly a work of art and it's less at $1,200. It doesn't have that seperate add on ring look that you get from other pulleys of this type like Kleemann, Carlsson and Renntech. To me it looks cheezy and maybe I can live with it for $500 but not for $1,600. I can send you pics of the Vaeth and you can compare that to the others and see the difference. I've never seen the Brabus pulley but if money was truly no object I would look into it.
well the chances are even if i got a solid pulley it would be fine since i am only keeping it for another year or a year and a 1/2, and i bairly put millage on my car. But i would feel better having a damper.

If u can please send me pics of the vaeth pulley, i never seen one.
thanks. u can send it to my username at @aol.com

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