C-Class (W203) 2001-2007, C160, C180, C200, C220, C230, C240, C270, C280, C300, C320, C230K, C350, Coupe
View Poll Results: are you getting the upsolute chip?
oh yeah! its worth it!
5
13.89%
no way! why risk it?
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13.89%
maybe in the future
9
25.00%
no, i'm getting or have a different chip/pulley system
2
5.56%
i already have it! it rocks!
0
0%
i'm skeptical about the results. waiting for that dyno sheet.
15
41.67%
what's upsolute?
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who's willing to get the upsolute chip?

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Old Jan 23, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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who's willing to get the upsolute chip?

are you willing to risk your warranty for +30hp and $400?
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:05 AM
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no way, they actually have to un-solder your chip then solder it back on to the ECU. A pulley kit is just a few bolts and I can return it to stock myself if needed.
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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Post PULLEY?

KWIK,YOU can Install a pulley if you want to BUT the OEM software WILL BLEED OFF ANY XTRA BOOST other than stock!!
I have BEEN THERE DONE THAT before doing software as the results were on the dyno and the air box was off and you could SEE the BYPASS valve opening(BLEEDING BOOST)
JUST MY 02
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:28 AM
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Re: PULLEY?

Originally posted by MARK CUMMINS
KWIK,YOU can Install a pulley if you want to BUT the OEM software WILL BLEED OFF ANY XTRA BOOST other than stock!!
I have BEEN THERE DONE THAT before doing software as the results were on the dyno and the air box was off and you could SEE the BYPASS valve opening(BLEEDING BOOST)
JUST MY 02
Mark I have gained 32 HP from adding a pully kit. But I have also seen the results vary from car to car with the same modifacations.

What were your MB fuel management and ignition controls set to before you chiped your car?

Randy
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:34 AM
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I agree with MARK on the pulley.. The pulley it self is not going to do anything without an after market Chip to mix proper air and gas combo. The stock OEM is going to adjust it self so you can get the proper mix and is not going to give you major HP if any. So right now the only thing i would do is K&N air filter and maybe a 75HP shot of nitrous.
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:46 AM
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GOT BOOST?

RANDY,I did not gain anything on the run without changing the SOFTWARE I tried several other runs and the ONLY major INCREASE in H.P. was SOFTWARE I will try the PULLEY AT THE NEXT DYNO RUN cause I want to recheck the results and play with some more STUFF ON THE DYNO

BTW what SIZE is the Aftermarkit pulley in MM? that RENNTECH
is USING?


THE fuel map WAS FIRST stock then PERFORMANCE!!

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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:54 AM
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Mark,
maybe we all need a lesson on what a "Chip" is/does. From my understanding, all a chip does is change values in a table for things like air/fuel ratio. The "Chip" doesn't actually change the adaptive algorithm that the OEM software uses. So, I would think even if the coupe is "Chipped", the OEM software would still adapt to your driving pattern thereby changing the "Chip" settings.

Am I even close?
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by Iceman's C230
I agree with MARK on the pulley.. The pulley it self is not going to do anything without an after market Chip to mix proper air and gas combo. The stock OEM is going to adjust it self so you can get the proper mix and is not going to give you major HP if any. So right now the only thing i would do is K&N air filter and maybe a 75HP shot of nitrous.
I agree that a 75 shot will give it a kick, but the ITG filter show more gain than the K&N does. The pully you are off on it's a solid gain documented by Carlson, Brabus, and Renntech. it's not a placebo

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all the gains blah blah are only words of mouth.

Can Renntech provide a dyno plot for the pulley?

I have yet to see Upsolute dyno plot from Vadim/Mark without dyno proof its hard for people to invest in the mod that worth to void the warranty
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:29 AM
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anyone try the carlsson pully??? any feedback at all appreciated.

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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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I have arranged for one of your fellow forum buds to get a dyno done on his C230 before chipping and I will pay for it after chipping. Come to the event and see what it entails.
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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John,

The ecu on the 230 is a sealed seimens unit. How is it possible to even open the unit up to put a new chip in it.

Please explain.

Thanks!
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