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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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Tech savvy: Fuel questions

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I was looking around the fuel rail, and havent noticed any fuel pressure regulators ( FPR) like any other german cars have . They usually go in increments from 3.0 Bar thru 4.0 and 5.0 bar... do we posses such a thing? also whats up with the fuel pump? i noticed it has 2 access doors. anybody know any technical specs on our units? FPM?

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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NegroC230
Please no stupid comments by unknowledgeable.

I was looking around the fuel rail, and havent noticed any fuel pressure regulators ( FPR) like any other german cars have . They usually go in increments from 3.0 Bar thru 4.0 and 5.0 bar... do we posses such a thing? also whats up with the fuel pump? i noticed it has 2 access doors. anybody know any technical specs on our units? FPM?

thanks in advance.
Don't be cheeky

Presume your car is M271 I4 engine which has Motronic?
Here are the diagrams of the fuel system. You have 2 hatches under the back seat - RHS = pump & sensor - LHS = sensor. Lines feed from LP pump to HP pump & then into the main fuel rail via a damper to the injectors. I have no idea how pressure is set on the HP pump. I'm more au fait with the fully electronic 6 cyl system. I have not included the EECS (Evaporative Emissions Control System)





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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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thanks, very informative, however ..i am 2.5L v6...m272?

ps: what is number 55 on the last picture? right next to the injector
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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i noticed to have the sameunit on my rail too....but its too small to be looking like the FPR i was mentioning not to mention it doesnt have a vacuum port on it.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Sorry - I don't have 272 loaded at the moment - need to get it done. I'm giving you 112. All diags same for tank & lines. Only diff is fuel distributor - diag below. V6 has no HP pump. ECU controls rear pump to provide desired line pressure (measured at 14 - don't know spec). Injectors do pressurisation & metering on the fully electronic system.
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I don't have a nice diagram to share but the regulator is built into the fuel filter.

That's why the filter has so many connections.

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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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If that is correct - it is extremely interesting. I was not aware of that. When you say regulating - Do you really mean damping line surge or really regulating a peak pressure? If it's truly regulating I will never complain about the cost of a filter again.
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Specification is ~3.8 bar.
Originally Posted by p_gill
I don't have a nice diagram to share but the regulator is built into the fuel filter...
p_gill is correct.

Last edited by splinter; Oct 6, 2010 at 07:02 AM.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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thats what i call German Engineering, LOL
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Mercedes Benz Tech chiming in.. approximate fuel pressure at the rail is 55-60psi, those units on the fuel rail are accumulators, they dampen the fuel pressure pulsed from when the injectors open and close.
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no wonder a filter costs as much as it does.
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