W203 4 slat Starless grille project
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According to VIPRSX it wasn't europassion, but I'm pretty sure all 3 different grille's used the same base grille it was built off of.
They all had gaps, top corners and top middle are the problem area. See below how the top is flat? It would need a slight curve to minimize the top middle gap. The corners cut at a downward slash both are there in order for you to clear the opening when sliding in. ED rounded out the corners a bit and reduced that gap. I noticed that last night when examining fitment and checking what I could do on my end to minimize the top gap. I think I have an idea... and will try this weekend if I have time.
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Damn, they all have gaps except the first one (white one) but that doesn't look as good as as the others.
Never mind it still has gaps.
I guess you really can't have it without the gap.
Never mind it still has gaps.
I guess you really can't have it without the gap.
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They all had gaps, top corners and top middle are the problem area. See below how the top is flat? It would need a slight curve to minimize the top middle gap. The corners cut at a downward slash both are there in order for you to clear the opening when sliding in. ED rounded out the corners a bit and reduced that gap. I noticed that last night when examining fitment and checking what I could do on my end to minimize the top gap. I think I have an idea... and will try this weekend if I have time.
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Thanks ROLLLINN! This is DON, I go by beerfest on MBworld and DON on myMB and versus..I dont know why I did that. 
But yes, the CF Grille ED did is awesome! I'm still in love with it since the test fit day! Thanks Again Ken!
But yes, the CF Grille ED did is awesome! I'm still in love with it since the test fit day! Thanks Again Ken!
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Hey Guys,
My name is Geoff. I am the Marketing Manager for Extreme Dimensions. Sorry, I don't have my own profile on this forum, so I am bouncing off of Ken, 'cause thats how we roll (thanks bud
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Anyway, I have been working with Ken (and Ryan before Ken started with us) on maintaining this product. I just wanted to step in and say that the Management team here has seen your replies about the gap at the top of the grille. We strive to give you all the very best possible product from the get go. I am personally hammering this issue over on the product development side to see if there is anything that we can do. To me, and remember I am just a Marketing guy, it should be a simple mold fix. Since we already have that mold made, and if we can just simply fix the mold, then the turn around time might be a lot less than expected.
We here at Extreme Dimensions can't thank all of you enough for your continued patience, and understanding. I will take a "Ken-ism" and say: "we would rather do something right, then do something right now." I promise that we are doing everything that we can do get everything resolved as quickly as possible. I will let Ken step back in, but hopefully I will be able to give him some good news in the very near future about this issue.
Thanks again everyone!
-Geoff
My name is Geoff. I am the Marketing Manager for Extreme Dimensions. Sorry, I don't have my own profile on this forum, so I am bouncing off of Ken, 'cause thats how we roll (thanks bud
).Anyway, I have been working with Ken (and Ryan before Ken started with us) on maintaining this product. I just wanted to step in and say that the Management team here has seen your replies about the gap at the top of the grille. We strive to give you all the very best possible product from the get go. I am personally hammering this issue over on the product development side to see if there is anything that we can do. To me, and remember I am just a Marketing guy, it should be a simple mold fix. Since we already have that mold made, and if we can just simply fix the mold, then the turn around time might be a lot less than expected.
We here at Extreme Dimensions can't thank all of you enough for your continued patience, and understanding. I will take a "Ken-ism" and say: "we would rather do something right, then do something right now." I promise that we are doing everything that we can do get everything resolved as quickly as possible. I will let Ken step back in, but hopefully I will be able to give him some good news in the very near future about this issue.
Thanks again everyone!
-Geoff
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Alright, so a quick update on the gap issue that Geoff referred to:
Geoff and I had a meeting with our product development director about this issue. At this time, there will not be any changing of molds or "tweaking" of the current design. Unfortunately, that gap is necessary to install the grille into the hood. Due to the fact that the hood pinches towards the center, the grille can't be placed straight into the hood. The top part of the grille needs to be slid in at an angle and then you can rotate the bottom half of the grille into place. If this gap were not there, the installation would not be possible. If we somehow added material to the top part of the grille, when the part was being installed in this manner, the part would break/crack.
I hope this clarifies the situation a little bit better for you guys. If there's anything else I can do for you, don't hesitate to ask!
-Ken
Geoff and I had a meeting with our product development director about this issue. At this time, there will not be any changing of molds or "tweaking" of the current design. Unfortunately, that gap is necessary to install the grille into the hood. Due to the fact that the hood pinches towards the center, the grille can't be placed straight into the hood. The top part of the grille needs to be slid in at an angle and then you can rotate the bottom half of the grille into place. If this gap were not there, the installation would not be possible. If we somehow added material to the top part of the grille, when the part was being installed in this manner, the part would break/crack.
I hope this clarifies the situation a little bit better for you guys. If there's anything else I can do for you, don't hesitate to ask!
-Ken
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I'm sorry, but that does not make any sense at all honestly. every other grille on the market for the w203 ALL slide right in without any gap at the top, so how is adding a section to what everyone else has so difficult. to me that's just an excuse so you guys don't have to change the mold. If you can make the 209 grille fit perfectly, you can make the 203 one fit as well.
the stock grille or any other grille does not need to be placed at an angle when you put it on and they're actually free to move around a little before you secure it with screw from behind. the mounting surface for all screws are on a even platform.
I rather have the one on the white 203 that only has a small gap on either side of the top which you truly cannot see them unless you crouch down.
the stock grille or any other grille does not need to be placed at an angle when you put it on and they're actually free to move around a little before you secure it with screw from behind. the mounting surface for all screws are on a even platform.
I rather have the one on the white 203 that only has a small gap on either side of the top which you truly cannot see them unless you crouch down.
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If you're volunteering, then by all means! We needed the images for a project we are working on and Mike's name was the first brought up. If you are, shoot me an email with your name and phone number and I'll forward it on to my product development team as they are the ones that handle the test fits.
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do you still want a white car to test the grille on? I can probably come down this week.
let me know...
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I'm sorry, but that does not make any sense at all honestly. every other grille on the market for the w203 ALL slide right in without any gap at the top, so how is adding a section to what everyone else has so difficult. to me that's just an excuse so you guys don't have to change the mold. If you can make the 209 grille fit perfectly, you can make the 203 one fit as well.
the stock grille or any other grille does not need to be placed at an angle when you put it on and they're actually free to move around a little before you secure it with screw from behind. the mounting surface for all screws are on a even platform.
I rather have the one on the white 203 that only has a small gap on either side of the top which you truly cannot see them unless you crouch down.
the stock grille or any other grille does not need to be placed at an angle when you put it on and they're actually free to move around a little before you secure it with screw from behind. the mounting surface for all screws are on a even platform.
I rather have the one on the white 203 that only has a small gap on either side of the top which you truly cannot see them unless you crouch down.
-Ken
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I'm not quite sure what part doesn't make sense. I made sure during that meeting to make sure I understood how the grille was installed so that way I could pass that information on to you. I just spoke with my product development director and he re-affirmed on how the grille was installed.
I just spoke to my product development director about this and we just need to find the time to bring one in.
-Ken
I just spoke to my product development director about this and we just need to find the time to bring one in.
-Ken
from the pics you posted it clearly shows that adding a rounded top like the gold or the white car would not affect installation. straight in, straight out.
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Frank brought up a very interesting point. How does the w209 grill fit so perfectly (no gap) and the w203 doesn't? I'm not a grill expert maybe you guys can shine some light on that.
Thanks
In honest opinion the grill looked OK but after seeing the w209 grill then this, sorry to say the w203 grill looks like straight up ***. Maybe it's the pictures oe maybe it's the hood that makes the w209 look better but I still don't know why?
Thanks
In honest opinion the grill looked OK but after seeing the w209 grill then this, sorry to say the w203 grill looks like straight up ***. Maybe it's the pictures oe maybe it's the hood that makes the w209 look better but I still don't know why?
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Frank brought up a very interesting point. How does the w209 grill fit so perfectly (no gap) and the w203 doesn't? I'm not a grill expert maybe you guys can shine some light on that.
Thanks
In honest opinion the grill looked OK but after seeing the w209 grill then this, sorry to say the w203 grill looks like straight up ***. Maybe it's the pictures oe maybe it's the hood that makes the w209 look better but I still don't know why?
Thanks
In honest opinion the grill looked OK but after seeing the w209 grill then this, sorry to say the w203 grill looks like straight up ***. Maybe it's the pictures oe maybe it's the hood that makes the w209 look better but I still don't know why?
-Ken
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So I will be taking a video of the install of this grille to a W203. It won't be until the beginning of the month as our test fit guy is on vacation until then. As soon as he gets back, I will be scheduling someone to come down.
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wait, so you guys need a special "test fit guy" to install the grill? how hard is 8 screws?
no offense, but I doubt you'll be getting very many orders on this grill.
no offense, but I doubt you'll be getting very many orders on this grill.
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seriously man. I dont think they are really serious about trying to sell this grill and get it out to enthusiasts. Ive volunteered my time to go down and check it out, but i guess the test fit guy isn't available.
They dont even want to sell me the grill at group buy pricing until everyone on the group buy list has a deposit in. wtf!?
Im pretty sure i was one of the most die hard and enthusiastic about getting this grill, but im pretty much over it now.
maybe if they get it together sometime down the road, but for now stock grill it is
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seriously man. I dont think they are really serious about trying to sell this grill and get it out to enthusiasts. Ive volunteered my time to go down and check it out, but i guess the test fit guy isn't available.
They dont even want to sell me the grill at group buy pricing until everyone on the group buy list has a deposit in. wtf!?
Im pretty sure i was one of the most die hard and enthusiastic about getting this grill, but im pretty much over it now.
maybe if they get it together sometime down the road, but for now stock grill it is
They dont even want to sell me the grill at group buy pricing until everyone on the group buy list has a deposit in. wtf!?
Im pretty sure i was one of the most die hard and enthusiastic about getting this grill, but im pretty much over it now.
maybe if they get it together sometime down the road, but for now stock grill it is
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seriously man. I dont think they are really serious about trying to sell this grill and get it out to enthusiasts. Ive volunteered my time to go down and check it out, but i guess the test fit guy isn't available.
They dont even want to sell me the grill at group buy pricing until everyone on the group buy list has a deposit in. wtf!?
Im pretty sure i was one of the most die hard and enthusiastic about getting this grill, but im pretty much over it now.
maybe if they get it together sometime down the road, but for now stock grill it is
They dont even want to sell me the grill at group buy pricing until everyone on the group buy list has a deposit in. wtf!?
Im pretty sure i was one of the most die hard and enthusiastic about getting this grill, but im pretty much over it now.
maybe if they get it together sometime down the road, but for now stock grill it is
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seriously man. I dont think they are really serious about trying to sell this grill and get it out to enthusiasts. Ive volunteered my time to go down and check it out, but i guess the test fit guy isn't available.
They dont even want to sell me the grill at group buy pricing until everyone on the group buy list has a deposit in. wtf!?
Im pretty sure i was one of the most die hard and enthusiastic about getting this grill, but im pretty much over it now.
maybe if they get it together sometime down the road, but for now stock grill it is
They dont even want to sell me the grill at group buy pricing until everyone on the group buy list has a deposit in. wtf!?
Im pretty sure i was one of the most die hard and enthusiastic about getting this grill, but im pretty much over it now.
maybe if they get it together sometime down the road, but for now stock grill it is
-Ken
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Keep in mind that it is his job to do the test fitting. I would love to go do it but I have other things that need to be done with the other forums we are on. I am by no means saying that MBWorld is unimportant, I'm just saying that it is the responsibility of the the product development dept in general and the autobody tech we have on staff, to do these things. That being said, I will see what I can do to get it before then.
Roland, I offered you a discounted price that was on par with the group buy pricing and I never heard back from you. I just checked the sheet with the pricing for the group buy on it and the minimum was 10 for the price of $450 plus $19 shipping. The post-tax total would be extremely close to this. Let me know if you're still interested.
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Roland, I offered you a discounted price that was on par with the group buy pricing and I never heard back from you. I just checked the sheet with the pricing for the group buy on it and the minimum was 10 for the price of $450 plus $19 shipping. The post-tax total would be extremely close to this. Let me know if you're still interested.
-Ken
im taking a week off next week, so i should have some extra time to come down and test fit. I dont know what regulations you guys have, but ill do the install and you can take pics if its allowed. Just let me know.
I think im still interested, can i pick up or does it have to be shipped? please give me a total price on it. thanks
