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Old 10-18-2009, 11:44 PM
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Who drives in the canyons?......

sup guys

So I was up at Mulholland the other day, and a lot of people were saying that Springs/Shocks are better for the canyons than C/O's......

none of them had a MBZ.....so idk if I really believe that.....


opinions?
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It really depends on the spring and shocks cause there are all kinds of variables with different companies. I really like my H&R C/Os, handles real nice with little roll and gets the job done. Of course Im also equipped with Eibach sways as well and those really help with the cornering if anything. As well as tires and tire psi's.
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i think ach is better...to bad its closed...they said usually springs and shocks a better because you can get aftermarket shocks that are usually better then the ones that come with coil overs and you can get custom spring rate springs. If you don't autox or do a lot of track time. Coil overs are fine.
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mike, it's been a while... setup GMR meet!
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lol I don't do any track events or stuff....

I obviously wanna make the handling better....I have sway bars on the way

I'm asking cuz.....If springs/shocks are the way to go I'll get Koni's/H&Rs.....

But if C/O's are the way to go I'll just get like Eurotek springs till I can afford C/o's

....ya kno what I mean?
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I think blistein and kw is good enough to compare to shock & spring... but the obvious co that is will be worse than shock & spring is the tein basic... why by eurotek spring first? might as well go straight with H&R unless it is way cheaper...
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mike, it's been a while... setup GMR meet!
lol...i have done a few already...all the mb ppl usually flake...so i gave up on mb meets.

I'm hoping they'll open ach back up in a few months. Our cars are more at home on ach then gmr.
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lol...i have done a few already...all the mb ppl usually flake...so i gave up on mb meets.
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i usually just go with my honda buddies. If i fix my tranny issue...i'll talk to pete and see if we can set something up.
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I think blistein and kw is good enough to compare to shock & spring... but the obvious co that is will be worse than shock & spring is the tein basic... why by eurotek spring first? might as well go straight with H&R unless it is way cheaper...

lol I hear bad things about Tein.....so I'll stay away from that

I'd get Eurotek springs cuz they're the only ones that will work with OEM shocks.....so they're not as stiff as H&R's



but ya......I still don't know whats gonna be better in the end......C/O's or Springs/Shocks lol
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Originally Posted by shivi1345
lol I hear bad things about Tein.....so I'll stay away from that

I'd get Eurotek springs cuz they're the only ones that will work with OEM shocks.....so they're not as stiff as H&R's



but ya......I still don't know whats gonna be better in the end......C/O's or Springs/Shocks lol
i would just go with the coilovers. The great thing about coil overs is the adjustable height. Keep in mind the driver side is heaver then the passenager side. So you need the driver a little higher then the passenager side if you want the wheel gaps the same all around.
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I have TEIN's. Nothing bad to say.
Durable, and if necessary rebuildable as far as shocks.

I haul **** up canyons everyday you wouldn't believe.
The car never ever goes off track....amazing, I can be boucing in almost any direction,
but almost no correction is needed from the steering wheel.
Adjustable shocks and a thicker bars, well then you've got it!

Truely awe inspiring, when you are driving like mad, and the car is so
comfortable to drive at extreme limits, like when driving with 2 feet,
to reduce your response time, pushing though corners.....
oh yeh.....I want the AMG "Speedshift" and for the tranny to not upshift.
I wish the speedshift thing was just a software thing.....

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GMR MEET NAO! I don't flake though, do I?
lol you did the flake on the last one. Remember you gf wanted to go shopping.
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LOL, well no more GF, so more time for you ;]
sorry i dont swing that way.... Did you fix your rims yet?
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Originally Posted by shivi1345
lol I hear bad things about Tein.....so I'll stay away from that

I'd get Eurotek springs cuz they're the only ones that will work with OEM shocks.....so they're not as stiff as H&R's



but ya......I still don't know whats gonna be better in the end......C/O's or Springs/Shocks lol
just so you know that is a FALSE statement.

any lowering springs will NOT allow the stock longer shocks to have their normal travel range.

all the aftermarket lowering springs are different in height and spring rate. There is absolutely no difference if one claim that they work with OEM shocks. why? because they all cause the oem shocks to shorten their travel range.

stiffer springs actually protects the shocks from bottom out more often if you are running OEM shocks.

If you want to use your stock shocks, the best springs are the ones that are stiffer and lowers the car the least.


and lastly, a good spring/shocks combo are virtually the same as coilovers in terms of performance other than height adjustment.
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Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup
I have TEIN's. Nothing bad to say.
Durable, and if necessary rebuildable as far as shocks.
I said tein basic
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just so you know that is a FALSE statement.

any lowering springs will NOT allow the stock longer shocks to have their normal travel range.

all the aftermarket lowering springs are different in height and spring rate. There is absolutely no difference if one claim that they work with OEM shocks. why? because they all cause the oem shocks to shorten their travel range.

stiffer springs actually protects the shocks from bottom out more often if you are running OEM shocks.

If you want to use your stock shocks, the best springs are the ones that are stiffer and lowers the car the least.


and lastly, a good spring/shocks combo are virtually the same as coilovers in terms of performance other than height adjustment.
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^ that's what I though too.....but the Euroteck sponsor (Neil?) told me otherwise......


and they have adjustable shocks.....I know they're prolly not as adjustable as C/O's but still....
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Originally Posted by FrankW
..any lowering springs will NOT allow the stock longer shocks to have their normal travel range.
all the aftermarket lowering springs are different in height and spring rate. There is absolutely no difference if one claim that they work with OEM shocks. why? because they all cause the oem shocks to shorten their travel range.
stiffer springs actually protects the shocks from bottom out more often if you are running OEM shocks.
If you want to use your stock shocks, the best springs are the ones that are stiffer and lowers the car the least.
and lastly, a good spring/shocks combo are virtually the same as coilovers in terms of performance other than height adjustment.
FrankW is correct.

Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup
I have TEIN's. Nothing bad to say.
Durable, and if necessary rebuildable as far as shocks.

I haul **** up canyons everyday you wouldn't believe.
The car never ever goes off track....amazing, I can be boucing in almost any direction,
but almost no correction is needed from the steering wheel.

Adjustable shocks and a thicker bars, well then you've got it!

Truely awe inspiring, when you are driving like mad, and the car is so
comfortable to drive at extreme limits
, like when driving with 2 feet,
to reduce your response time, pushing though corners.....
oh yeh.....I want the AMG "Speedshift" and for the tranny to not upshift.
I wish the speedshift thing was just a software thing.....
That’s because you’re well below its limits – as it should be on public highways.
Catch up with the incorrigibles at a closed course event sometime.
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So what I was told about the springs by their manufacturer was wrong?......they won't work with OEM shocks?
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Originally Posted by shivi1345
So what I was told about the springs by their manufacturer was wrong?......they won't work with OEM shocks?
all aftermarket springs made for W203 works with OEM shocks. they just don't allow the OEM shocks to work in their proper travel range.
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..........but if you use OEM shocks w/ most aftermarket springs, the shocks will blow after a while (especially if you drive hard). That isn't supposed to happen w/ these springs


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