Oil FYI
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Oil FYI
I know oil has been covered a thousand times but here is some more info.
My 2005 c230 with 123,500 miles has had Mobil one 0w-40 from new to the last 3 oil changes. Since about 50k I have burned one qt. at about 10k like clockwork. I have sent samples to blackstone for testing and my numbers were comparable to Matt's. My indy shop uses valvoline and swears by it. I have used it the last three changes and have not burned any oil for the full 13k interval. I had it changed yesterday and got a sample for blackstone. Just by apperance the valvoline looks cleaner than the Mobil One did. I will post my oil report as soon as I get it.
Just another tidbit I used to run Mobil one 5w-30 in my 2005 Land Rover LR3 then switched to Valvoline and the blackstone report was much better on the Valvoline. I just changed it with Castrol Edge and will send a report. Castrol Edge just as 5w-30 and 10w-30 weight now, but more will be released this year.
My 2005 c230 with 123,500 miles has had Mobil one 0w-40 from new to the last 3 oil changes. Since about 50k I have burned one qt. at about 10k like clockwork. I have sent samples to blackstone for testing and my numbers were comparable to Matt's. My indy shop uses valvoline and swears by it. I have used it the last three changes and have not burned any oil for the full 13k interval. I had it changed yesterday and got a sample for blackstone. Just by apperance the valvoline looks cleaner than the Mobil One did. I will post my oil report as soon as I get it.
Just another tidbit I used to run Mobil one 5w-30 in my 2005 Land Rover LR3 then switched to Valvoline and the blackstone report was much better on the Valvoline. I just changed it with Castrol Edge and will send a report. Castrol Edge just as 5w-30 and 10w-30 weight now, but more will be released this year.
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Hmm! - you are using less oil because you are running a thicker oil - that's all. If the valvoline looks cleaner it's not doing it's job. The detergeant package in a good modern oil should make sure it darkens quickly thereby keeping your engine clean.
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Yes it is slightly heavier but I don't think its enough of a difference to really not burn a quart. Not sure about your opinion on the oil detergents, ill have to do some research on that, the blackstone report will let us know. From the report on my Rover the valvoline outperformed the mobil 1
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Yes it is slightly heavier but I don't think its enough of a difference to really not burn a quart. Not sure about your opinion on the oil detergents, ill have to do some research on that, the blackstone report will let us know. From the report on my Rover the valvoline outperformed the mobil 1
After 39 years with a supermajor oilco I think I know what I'm talking about. And no it's not ExxonMobil.
Regarding your Rover you are probably comparing apples with pears. Valvoline products are not any better or worse than those of other reputable companies. There are many Mobil 1's as there are many Valvoline products. What were you comparing with what? - over how many samples was the comparison made? You really need a good history with both products over many miles to make any meaningful comparison & in identical operating conditions with identical air & oil filtration, fuel etc.
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Well, I had no idea of your vast experience. Excuse me. It doesn't take someone like yourself to realize that the oil sent to blackstone wasn't a sample from a control experiment. I keep forgetting everyone on the w203 forum is an expert. Sometimes I think people just respond to increase their number of posts as if that is a measure of anything.
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Well, I had no idea of your vast experience. Excuse me. It doesn't take someone like yourself to realize that the oil sent to blackstone wasn't a sample from a control experiment. I keep forgetting everyone on the w203 forum is an expert. Sometimes I think people just respond to increase their number of posts as if that is a measure of anything.
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MOBIL 1 ALL DAY !!! LOL i was burning about 2 qts of oil on my m111 between oil changes , till i changed to mobile one as Gyln recommended and my life has changed. Thanks Glyn. (I know, it sounded like the commercial lol).
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Sorry if I came over heavy handed. Not the intention. We try desperately to keep this resource accurate for everyone. There are only a few additive formulations that meet 229.5 and all the companies use them. The only minor differences are in the base oil & VI improver. I use our product in my car but Mobil 1 0W-40 Euro formulation is an excellent product. See my Definitive oil thread.
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Does this Valvoline product meet 229.5 standards? Admittedly, I don't know. However, if it doesn't, your answer is clear. You're correct at this being covered 5,000,000 times because for some reason people don't want to leave well enough alone. It is an established FACT that Mobil 1 0W-40 meets Benz 229.5 standards (a requirement for these cars), it is widely available (even my Wal-Mart carries it), and it is reasonably priced ($6.25-$7.00/quart). For some reason, though, none of this is good enough and people still want to experiment.
My car burns about 1/2 quart of Mobil 1 0W-40 in 13,000 miles. I'm not giving up the required specifications to save that 1/2 quart.
Moreover, I'd think Glyn's expertise in this area would mean a whole helluva lot more than some anecdotal BS like this. The new-guy-posting-thread-looking-for-cheerleaders thing is getting really old. You posted your info, it was debunked by an expert in the field - stop crying and appreciate that you learned something new.
My car burns about 1/2 quart of Mobil 1 0W-40 in 13,000 miles. I'm not giving up the required specifications to save that 1/2 quart.
Moreover, I'd think Glyn's expertise in this area would mean a whole helluva lot more than some anecdotal BS like this. The new-guy-posting-thread-looking-for-cheerleaders thing is getting really old. You posted your info, it was debunked by an expert in the field - stop crying and appreciate that you learned something new.
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Of course it meets 299.5 specs, so I'm not giving up the requires specs to save 1/2 qt. Again there are other quality oils out there that meet 229.5. I'm sorry I'm the "new guy", but I'm not looking for cheerleaders at all, though maybe you are. Also I'm not "crying" because my info was debunked, just pointing out that many on this forum have a "holier than thou" attitude, like yourself. I had no idea glyn was a expert and do value his opinion and expertise.
Also Matt thank you for informing us of your same sex discrimination views as well as your inspirational footer...Please could you be more corny. Take a hint from your NO H8 campaign and put some duct tape over your mouth
Also Matt thank you for informing us of your same sex discrimination views as well as your inspirational footer...Please could you be more corny. Take a hint from your NO H8 campaign and put some duct tape over your mouth
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Of course it meets 299.5 specs, so I'm not giving up the requires specs to save 1/2 qt. Again there are other quality oils out there that meet 229.5. I'm sorry I'm the "new guy", but I'm not looking for cheerleaders at all, though maybe you are. Also I'm not "crying" because my info was debunked, just pointing out that many on this forum have a "holier than thou" attitude, like yourself. I had no idea glyn was a expert and do value his opinion and expertise.
Also Matt thank you for informing us of your same sex discrimination views as well as your inspirational footer...Please could you be more corny. Take a hint from your NO H8 campaign and put some duct tape over your mouth
Also Matt thank you for informing us of your same sex discrimination views as well as your inspirational footer...Please could you be more corny. Take a hint from your NO H8 campaign and put some duct tape over your mouth
Some of your first posts here were about how grand your driving skills were, how you have no need for things like ESP and ABS, and how one of our members deserved to be in a crash that could've seriously injured his passenger because he hasn't had professional driver training.
As we know even with ESP off the computer will still intervene when the car is out of shape. Even with no ESP period it should have not been that hard to control the car. I drive in the rain all the time with esp off and have no problems. I wonder how you people drove before esp??? Sounds like you need to learn some basic car control skills hot shot, I suggest you call Skip Barber or another driving school and get a clue. When driving like a fool you deserve to end up in the ditch
And I've got a holier than thou attitude? Give me a break.
You want to start with personal attacks? Please, be my guest. That'll mean less time we spend wasting our collective breath on you.
Have a nice day.
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Can't we all just get along?
My car burns about a 1/4 qts of oil every 6000miles as well. Currently the mileage is at 112,xxx miles. I've been using Mobil 1 0w-30 since day one. I just add extra oil to the car keeping it at 5.8 qts until my next oil change. Not really a big deal to me, since I check the oil level every week or so~
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You should have no trouble with any approved 229.5 oil. Latest listing of approved oils & their viscosities is posted on the Definitive thread.
