Finally got new wheels - w211 on w203
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Finally got new wheels - w211 on w203
Tires were about shot. I had to get new ones this month. I priced them out. Then I got the urge to look at wheels again. I prefer Mercedes factory wheels over most aftermarket. I started my search for a set of four front or back 2007 C230 wheels with tires. Since all C230's were staggered, and I have a 4MATIC car, I knew, and found out that my search would be near impossible.
So at that point I settled on finding something that was a matched set, with brand new or very slightly used, non-crap tires on them.
I always kept coming back to E-Class wheels. Everyone pretty much agrees (for the most part) that you can't do W211 wheels on our cars, because the offsets are usually a problem. Also, longer bolts with proper heads are necessary as well, since W211 wheels have a different shaped bolt heads.
Well, the wheels I kept looking at were from a 2006 E320. They are 16x8 with a +36 offset. I asked a couple of my friends on here, along with the wheel and tire specialist at Schumacher European what they thought, and everyone agreed that they should work, with the possibility of rubbing.
I took the plunge, and purchased the wheels and tires. When they arrived, I started to test fit the first wheel up front, and sure enough, when placed on the wheel hub, the tires (with 225 rubber) rubbed against the suspension. so I talked to the wheels guy at Schumacher again, and he referred me to their custom wheels parter, Wheel Specialists in Tempe, to finish the job for me.
They had me come down for a test fit, and they determined that a 3mm hub-centric spacer, and new bolts (with the proper length and head for the wheels) would solve my problems. I went in this afternoon and attached pics of the results. (It was nighttime in my garage, and the lighting in there isn't so hot)
I have been wanting to get the blue laurel center wheel caps as well. I mentioned this to the tech, and he said that they had a 2009 E in the other day that got new wheels, but since the caps didn't fit, they couldn't place them on the new wheels. He said he would give them to me and switch them out. They re-balanced the wheels as well, so I was out the door in an hour, and I'm pretty happy with the results.
I know the wheels aren't as fancy as lots of the other ones here, but I like the factory look, and I think compared to what Mercedes placed on my car as stock, they are 100% better than what I had.
So at that point I settled on finding something that was a matched set, with brand new or very slightly used, non-crap tires on them.
I always kept coming back to E-Class wheels. Everyone pretty much agrees (for the most part) that you can't do W211 wheels on our cars, because the offsets are usually a problem. Also, longer bolts with proper heads are necessary as well, since W211 wheels have a different shaped bolt heads.
Well, the wheels I kept looking at were from a 2006 E320. They are 16x8 with a +36 offset. I asked a couple of my friends on here, along with the wheel and tire specialist at Schumacher European what they thought, and everyone agreed that they should work, with the possibility of rubbing.
I took the plunge, and purchased the wheels and tires. When they arrived, I started to test fit the first wheel up front, and sure enough, when placed on the wheel hub, the tires (with 225 rubber) rubbed against the suspension. so I talked to the wheels guy at Schumacher again, and he referred me to their custom wheels parter, Wheel Specialists in Tempe, to finish the job for me.
They had me come down for a test fit, and they determined that a 3mm hub-centric spacer, and new bolts (with the proper length and head for the wheels) would solve my problems. I went in this afternoon and attached pics of the results. (It was nighttime in my garage, and the lighting in there isn't so hot)
I have been wanting to get the blue laurel center wheel caps as well. I mentioned this to the tech, and he said that they had a 2009 E in the other day that got new wheels, but since the caps didn't fit, they couldn't place them on the new wheels. He said he would give them to me and switch them out. They re-balanced the wheels as well, so I was out the door in an hour, and I'm pretty happy with the results.
I know the wheels aren't as fancy as lots of the other ones here, but I like the factory look, and I think compared to what Mercedes placed on my car as stock, they are 100% better than what I had.
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2013 C300 4Matic Sport
I ended up selling my 2007 staggered sport wheels to MT8667 and he's got them on his 2005 4matic. Apparently its the overall wheel/tires combination diameter you need to be concerned with. Some say 3%, some say 5%.
That said, the car looks very clean, and the 211 wheels set it apart!
That said, the car looks very clean, and the 211 wheels set it apart!
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That looks great Chris. Impressive!.
I was one of the idiots consulted. Can anyone who knows 4Matics well tell us why an ET36 wheel caused rubbing on the strut with 225 tyres? Do 4Matics have a different strut, dimple depth or hub set out than conventional W203 RWD's? Standard wheel on the older Elegance/Lux was ET37 & cleared comfortably with 225 tyres. I know because thats what I ran with Pilot Exalto PE2's & I'm now running 17X8XET32 with PS2 235's & they clear the strut just fine. Some input would be interesting.
I was one of the idiots consulted. Can anyone who knows 4Matics well tell us why an ET36 wheel caused rubbing on the strut with 225 tyres? Do 4Matics have a different strut, dimple depth or hub set out than conventional W203 RWD's? Standard wheel on the older Elegance/Lux was ET37 & cleared comfortably with 225 tyres. I know because thats what I ran with Pilot Exalto PE2's & I'm now running 17X8XET32 with PS2 235's & they clear the strut just fine. Some input would be interesting.
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C240 4Matic with staggered wheels...
Met up with DrFox and got the stock 07 Sport staggered "spider" wheels. Front wheels 816 revs/mile, rear wheels 810 revs/mile-Less than 1% difference in revs/mile. Ran the car over 200 miles since @ 70 mph+ most of the time-NO PROBLEMS. Heres the resulting look on stock 4Matic suspension.... .....Thanks again for all your assistence Sam!!
And Chris W211 wheels look great--BIG improvment!
And Chris W211 wheels look great--BIG improvment!
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Glyn, you're not an idiot!
Tommy, it really wasn't that much trouble, and for the money that I saved altogether, it was very very worth it.
Once it stops raining in Phoenix, I'm hoping to get the car cleaned up tomorrow or Thursday and take some better pics.
I'm quite proud of the car now.
Tommy, it really wasn't that much trouble, and for the money that I saved altogether, it was very very worth it.
Once it stops raining in Phoenix, I'm hoping to get the car cleaned up tomorrow or Thursday and take some better pics.
I'm quite proud of the car now.
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Met up with DrFox and got the stock 07 Sport staggered "spider" wheels. Front wheels 816 revs/mile, rear wheels 810 revs/mile-Less than 1% difference in revs/mile. Ran the car over 200 miles since @ 70 mph+ most of the time-NO PROBLEMS. Heres the resulting look on stock 4Matic suspension.... .....Thanks again for all your assistence Sam!!
And Chris W211 wheels look great--BIG improvment!
And Chris W211 wheels look great--BIG improvment!
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Thanks, its a really cheap plastic ebay grille, in fact I'm afraid of breaking it every time I close the hood, but I love the way it looks! Oddly enough, it did come with an brand new boxed OEM center star.
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Tommy - Chris, like me, values comfort. 16" with higher profile tyres is the answer to this.
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Updated pics
Now that it's sunny, and the car is mostly clean, I took a couple of new pics this morning:
Gotta love Arizona. Now I need to get the car detailed. Saturday here I come!
Gotta love Arizona. Now I need to get the car detailed. Saturday here I come!
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Met up with DrFox and got the stock 07 Sport staggered "spider" wheels. Front wheels 816 revs/mile, rear wheels 810 revs/mile-Less than 1% difference in revs/mile. Ran the car over 200 miles since @ 70 mph+ most of the time-NO PROBLEMS. Heres the resulting look on stock 4Matic suspension.... .....Thanks again for all your assistence Sam!!
And Chris W211 wheels look great--BIG improvment!
And Chris W211 wheels look great--BIG improvment!
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a quarter mile at a time
I take this post as evidence that the 07 c230 stock sport spider wheels will fit on a 05 c230 sport. Are they any issues with mounting or fitment upgrading to the 07 wheels from the completely stock 05 (tires, breaks, and all)? Automatic transmission here. Will I need new tires?
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Has anyone ever upgraded to the 2007 stock wheels on an earlier w203? Know of anyone who has successfully? I'm wondering if I'll need spacers. Anyone have any perfect 2007 stock wheels to sell or have a suggestion where to buy? Thanks.
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I have the stock 07 Sport rims on my 05 C230K. No issues at all. Best looking rims for these cars. I lucked up with mine, getting them for free in a 3-person rim-trade deal. I dunno where to tell you to search for them at decent prices for sale.
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