C320->C32 AMG
#1
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C32 AMG x 2
C320->C32 AMG
hey guys, i just got a c320 for a good deal, but i wanna strap an amg supercharger on it. Now i know, i know, i have to lower boost....blah blah blah. Anyways so im getting the OEM supercharger soon. What kind of power rating should i expect? 0-60 times near c32 or naw? and LASTLY, it has the amg rims and body kit, IS IT WORTHY OF A C32 AMG SIGN OR V6 KOMPRESSOR OR NOOOT?
let me know wht you think
![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
#2
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Queens, Ny
Posts: 1,833
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Nike Turbo Shox
Hmm, you may want to do some searches on kleemann
http://www.kleemann.dk/Performance/P...ompressor.aspx
If you can get your hands on the parts well..
http://www.kleemann.dk/Performance/P...ompressor.aspx
If you can get your hands on the parts well..
#3
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C32 AMG x 2
yeah, i know, but i already ordered the amg s/c so im just waiting for it. Im wondering if its gunna run dead nuts with c32s or will it even beat my e500?
#4
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Queens, Ny
Posts: 1,833
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Nike Turbo Shox
These are more difference between the C32 and the non AMG w203.. More than just AMG bolted on a s/c. So no I doubt it'll run dead nuts with a c32, but it'll move. Are you going to get a retune?
#5
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C32 AMG x 2
of course brakes, suspension, some internals of the m112 motor are diffrent, but really those things will only make a small diffrence in times. I will have to get a retune, ECU remap, amg brakes...etc. Theres no point of having 330 or whatever its gunna push out without the braking power. But like i want it to feel like a whole diffrent car:P do you think i can acheive it with a s/c?!
#7
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C32 AMG x 2
suspensions gunna have to wait
, i have a spare c32 exhaust lying around, i can weld that on
i dont know if its gunna make a diffrence, they almsot sound very similar.
![Frown](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Trending Topics
#8
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Corona, CA
Posts: 5,034
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
03 g35 coupe...........02 c32 Sold
unless you plan on doing all the work yourself, it probably would've been cheaper to buy another c32. You should be able to keep up with a stock c32 until you eventually blow your bottom end since the pistons and rods are a lot weaker on a c320 then a c32.
#9
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C32 AMG x 2
yeah well thats the plan, im doing it all myself as a project cause i got it for cheap,im still keeping my c32. What do you mean? yeah there weaker for sure, but i can replace them, besides like i said im doing all the work. So temjin you think it'll do 0-60 in 5 secs or less?
#10
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Corona, CA
Posts: 5,034
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
03 g35 coupe...........02 c32 Sold
well the kleemann sc version claims it adds 113hp to the crank. So 113 +215 = 328hp so its very close to the c32. Obviously you can run more boost with the oem setup, but the question is how much hp can the c320 block take before it goes boom.
Since no one has done it before your not going to know until you blow it.
Unfortunately there no aftermarket pistons and rods for the m112. So you would either have to buy oem c32 pistons and rods or go custom.
I would've just taken the money you spent on the c320 and just bore c32 block to 3.7L with maybe a s350 or ml350 crank. It probably would've taken you over 400whp on a dynojet, with supporting mods of course.
Unfortunately, we have to pay the mercedes tax on labor and parts, so building these blocks aren't cheap. Where as i could have a honda block built and sleeved to 500whp for $2500.
Since no one has done it before your not going to know until you blow it.
Unfortunately there no aftermarket pistons and rods for the m112. So you would either have to buy oem c32 pistons and rods or go custom.
I would've just taken the money you spent on the c320 and just bore c32 block to 3.7L with maybe a s350 or ml350 crank. It probably would've taken you over 400whp on a dynojet, with supporting mods of course.
Unfortunately, we have to pay the mercedes tax on labor and parts, so building these blocks aren't cheap. Where as i could have a honda block built and sleeved to 500whp for $2500.
#11
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C32 AMG x 2
thats true...but the problem is i looked at the c320 kleeman and it says 0-60 is like 6 esconds
. Doesnt make sense to me, and its not like im going to take it to the track ehh. I just plan on enjoying it when a 3 series comes by. Not a 335 though
![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
#12
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Corona, CA
Posts: 5,034
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
03 g35 coupe...........02 c32 Sold
i'm sure you can hit sub 5second 0-60. There c32's hitting below 5second 0-60 with just better tires.
You should go off of 1/4 times and trap speeds if you want numbers thats more of a indication of performance...unless you really want to beat that 3 series to the freeway ramp..lol
You should go off of 1/4 times and trap speeds if you want numbers thats more of a indication of performance...unless you really want to beat that 3 series to the freeway ramp..lol
#13
MBWorld Fanatic!
What do all the parts to make a C32 motor out of a C320 motor cost? Besides the S/C there are so many parts like the intake, the IC, the heat exchanger, etc. Did you get them from a salvage yard?
#14
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C32 AMG x 2
well i dont plan on changing everything asap, cause i really dont care i can drive my other cars, but i can get an intake from the forum for appx200. Heat exchanger ill wait and stuff. The c32 supercharger isnt from a salvage yard, im in Canada so i cant really find salvaged mbs. Should i put the amg logo and take the 0 off after that or naw?![crazy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
![crazy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
#15
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,422
Received 84 Likes
on
55 Posts
BMW, Tesla, Mercedes, Porsche, Cadillac
well i dont plan on changing everything asap, cause i really dont care i can drive my other cars, but i can get an intake from the forum for appx200. Heat exchanger ill wait and stuff. The c32 supercharger isnt from a salvage yard, im in Canada so i cant really find salvaged mbs. Should i put the amg logo and take the 0 off after that or naw?![crazy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
![crazy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
#22
MBWorld Fanatic!
American engines aren't bad. The LS2 is a great engine and it loves to be boosted
The 2JZ is a great engine as well. If you want it as a project car then the supercharger is a bad idea. You'll be disappointed because I don't think you'll come close to the stock C32 power.
Good Luck
![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
Good Luck
#23
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C32 AMG x 2
American engines aren't bad. The LS2 is a great engine and it loves to be boosted
The 2JZ is a great engine as well. If you want it as a project car then the supercharger is a bad idea. You'll be disappointed because I don't think you'll come close to the stock C32 power.
Good Luck
![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
Good Luck
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#24
MBWorld Fanatic!
I think you'll pass the 300hp (crank) mark easily. Do you know how much the psi is on the supercharger? Your compression is 10.0 and you have to be very careful with high psi.
The C32 engine is built for forced induction but the m112 isn't so you have to be careful not the blow the engine with high psi. I wanna say with the 10.0:1 compression ration you should make sure not to run over 8psi (over 7 to be on the safe side).
With an IC and heat exchanger and a good tune I think you can pull 8psi easily but don't really know how long it'll last
The C32 engine is built for forced induction but the m112 isn't so you have to be careful not the blow the engine with high psi. I wanna say with the 10.0:1 compression ration you should make sure not to run over 8psi (over 7 to be on the safe side).
With an IC and heat exchanger and a good tune I think you can pull 8psi easily but don't really know how long it'll last
Last edited by W203E35; 04-11-2010 at 06:44 PM.