rock26

k looking closely at mugen fx-r projector I can clearly tell he cutting some of the reflectors to open space to put the fx-r projector all the way in.

TemjinX2

i cant remember exactly. I know the projector fits into the stock two top holes and i think we just jbwelded the bottom and top two screws. I know the fx-r projector is shorter then the stock depo projector so we spent most of the time trimming the projector shroud to fit the fx-r projector.

rock26

TemjinX2
Looking at the picture, I don't think he mounted the bottom corner screw because it does not align into mounting hole. Also If u can remember correctly, Did he trim some of the projector metal on the bottom part or cut down the bottom corner mounting hole on the reflector housing because on the picture it looks like he doesn't have the holes there anymore. Appreciate your answer. (I don't wanna go cutting down everything to make it fit or **** up)

TemjinX2

no we didnt mount another screw on the bottom. We just jbwelded the whole bottom half of the projector to the reflector. Jbweld is pretty strong stuff so it should be ok. Just remeber to jbweld the screws as well and nuts because the vibrations of the car will make them come loose later.

We might have slightly shaved part of the head light cover piece that goes in, so it can go over the projector. The head light shroud does cover most of the projector so it should give you some room to shave some the bottom piece.

It would probably be easier if you can post a pic of what your problem is. Its kinda tough trying to remember from memory. I just remember we spent most of the time shaving the projector shroud and i spent moding the projector to give more color. The installation itself was pretty straight forward.

rock26

Here is two what I done and What I need help to be done.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54271152@N02/5042226701/
I cutted some of the house reflector to allow the protector to go all the way in.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54271152@N02/5042232745/
Top left mounting hole is not aligning yet

Not sure what I need to cut to allow the top left mounting hole to correspond with the top left projector hole yet.

fookoo303

It doesn't look like your giving yourself any room to adjust the twist. Your going to run into lots of problems with alignment if you have it sitting on the bottom of the housing and its not perfectly flat.

rock26

Yea, I cannot align or twist it yet. I'm not sure what to cut yet to make more room. I will do more researching before I work on it tonight.

TemjinX2

ok i get what your saying. Have you checked the projector itself? When i got my fx-r's the holes that hold the bowl and the lens parts together weren't perfectly aligned. I did have to make one of the holes on the bowl bigger to make it align perfectly straight. No i did not have to shave the bottom part of the head light reflector. It just sat at the bottom of the head light reflector and we jbwelded like that.

You need to align the top holes together, do not modify the top holes. If you do, it'll throw off your rotational alignment. The reason our rotational alignment was perfect is because we just reused the top original mounting points.

fookoo303

wow sounds like a fairly easy retrofit. On all the retrofits I've done, getting the twist correct was always the hardest thing to do. Just being off by a few tenths of a degree was noticeable. That's pretty cool, hope it turns out good for you rock.

TemjinX2

yeah the rotational alignment is the more difficult and can make or break a retrofit. The vertical alignment is easy to fix. This setup is probably the 3rd easiest retro i ever done. The sonars were literally pretty much bolt on and reseal.

This is why its really important you mount the top two holes to there original location or your rotational alignment will be off.

The hardest is installing projectors into head lights with only reflectors and no projectors like you see in civic head lights.

rock26

Yea, I am gonna make the fx-r hole bigger tomrorow after work. Hopefully It will mount and alignment correctly.

fookoo303

Did you mark your original alignment points? height, centering, and twist?

rock26

Finally finished after like 20+ hours of work.
I only have my driver side bulb working right now.(The other bulb is broken) Waiting for my morimoto bulb to come soon from Retrosource.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/5427115...3561/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5427115...3471/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5427115...3385/lightbox/

TemjinX2

great pics...looks like it turn out well. You understand, when i wasn't exaggerating when i said it took 20hrs. If you add more washers on the bottom half of the projector bowl...it'll give you more blue at the cut off.

johnand

Those look great rock26. Awesome cutoff and great color. Wish my OEM bi-xenons looked like that.

TruTaing

Quick question: I know all projectors are created equal, but what causes so many other (asian) car projectors to be SOO much brighter and cleaner w/ the cut off? Is there no way we can make that sort of change on our stock projectors?

TemjinX2

not all projectors are created equal. The lens, bowl, bowl size, light shields all effect how a cut off looks, the color, the beams width and brightness of the beam.

There different hid projector manufacturers. The japanese cars, usually use the japanese hid projector manufacturer, stanley...like honda, acura, and infinite

German cars usually use german manufacturers, like hella and bosch, mercedes and bmw.

This isn't the absolute truth, but generally true.

Stanley, makes the best hid projectors in terms of color and sharpness. The s2k and tsx projectors are all stanley projectors.

If you want to know more, i suggest you surf the hidplanet.com forums.

Glyn M Ruck

One Japanese car that has crap BiX in my opinion is the Lexus SC430. The low mileage one that I had use of earlier in the year in Dallas had awful lights compared with my Merc. Poor throw distance & they through light all over the place. I think their lens angle causes trouble for them.

TemjinX2

glyn, if its the last gen sc430, maybe the head lights weren't aligned correctly. But the last gen sc430 projector would be surperior then the oem mercedes bixenons in terms of sharpness, cutoff and brightness.


pics of a sc430 projector with a washer mod to add blue.

Mu9enx

My headlights are still tootin'. Thanks Mike

maverik259

why do the washers add a blue hue? i have like a yellow-reddish hue to the upper edge of my oem projectors with 6000k philips ultinon bulbs.

Mu9enx

Bascially. Don't know if washers will make all the yellow-red go away, but it wouldn't hurt to try. You'd only be happy.

maverik259

oh no im not really interested in doing this. Not a fan of tearing apart my projectors just to add washers. i was just wondering why washers do that.

TemjinX2

adding washers changes the distance of the light shield and lens from the bulb. The change in distance can produce different color at the cut off.

maverik259

oh ok...interesting. Ya i think i've got soemthing in my houseing cuz what i've discovered is my driver side projector seems to be throwing a weird pattern off over top of the passenger side beam cut off...