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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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Angry AMP/SUB Installation problem with BOSE Audio Pilot

I have a HUGE problem with Bose's Audio Pilot after installing aftermarket AMP and SUBs. The volume would jump up and down like it has a mind of its own. I'm not talking about just + or - 9dB. This is way way louder than that. It can be so loud that I had to switch off the system entirely now. And it's definately NOT gradual increase in volume, it's sudden increase that can give you a heart attack.

Mind you, this is not a question about SPEED SENSITIVE AUDIO ADJUSTMENT. This is about Audio Pilot feature on BOSE systems that senses the ambient noise and 'tries' to adjust it. I understand it CANNOT be turned off by the dealership or the BOSE.

After reading this forum, I've tried cutting microphone wire that's located near the rear view mirror and removed the entire headlamp assembly in search of additional microphone but none that I could find.

Is there any other microphone to sense the ambient noise in BOSE systems?

Anybody with BOSE system + aftermarket SUBs had this problem before? Any solutions? I really want to keep the factory HU and the factory speakers.

Any help would be appreciated.

Aside from that the whole set up is AWESOME! The installer did a GREAT job and it looks sweet. Now I end up just looking at instead of listening to it!!

I'll post pics after developing it (no digital camera).

Thanks in advanced

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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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it is that +/- 9dB thing. Have the dealer set it to 0 and you wont have a problem.

Or you can lower the crossover settings a lot. That helped for me.... but then i got tired of it and changed it to 0.


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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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temporarily try this:

in the sunroof-controls area there is a circular plug thingy with a rectangle and vents in it (about 1 inch in size) pop that out. Inside is a microphone... unplug it.

This is the audio pilot sensor mike.

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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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First Kill:
No. According to a long search on this forum, it seems like there are 2 systems that adjust the audio volume automatically on BOSE systems. I'm having problem with the Audio Pilot thingy.


Peet:

I've already tried that. I cut out the wire since there is no way to plug it out. I've also taken apart the entire light assembly near the rear view mirror to search for any other sensors. I found nothing but the temp sensor. It's still the same.

My Audio installer is calling other installers who had done such systems to see if he can find out anything.

Thanks for your advise though guys.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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radical,

I have a sub in my car and im just letting u know what i found through expereince.


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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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i have a high-low converter with my setup, and i set it on low output in order to prevent that crazy volume effect (which happened to me too). I think the sub is pulling too much power from the bose amp, which confuses the system. the high-low converter (i believe) limits the amount of power (watts) that are being drawn from the bose amp, and thus eliminating the volume problem.

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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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Firstkill: Do you have BOSE system?


madryan: I'll ask my installer to try that. Until now he hasn't been able to locate problem. You do have the factory BOSE system as well, right?
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 11:38 PM
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yes i have a bose system

and im not even using a hi low converter.. tapped the sub straight to the amp.


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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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yeah, i have the bose... but maybe your amp is different...
i have a rockford fosgate amp, it probably makes a difference??
i didn't get to use the supplied wires of the amp to connect directly, so i can't tell if it works without the converter with my amp (lost the adapter).
ask you installer to try it... it's worth a shot...

firstkill: what kind of amp do you have? i'm lookin for a new amp.

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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Actually I just found out that I do have hi-low converter and it's set to it's lowest.

I'll try what firstkill suggested about setting it to 0db and see what happens.
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