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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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hi! guys i have 2 ?'s on a speedometer cluster and headlight painting

hi guys i have a 2003 c240 6 speed and my buddy gave me a 2005 c240 speedometer cluster but its automatic im trying to make my car a little more modernized would it work on my 6 speed is the letters that said P,R,N,D still chow on the cluster?

and second ? i bought off one of my mbworld friends a set of nice 05 headlights, and i wanted to know what kind of paint can i used i want to paint the inside of the edge of the headlights not where the bulbs go just the chrome u seeclosed to the lens if anybody can give me any ideas that would be great thanks. im trying to paint the inside of the headlights, not outside

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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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I don't think the clusters from manual car and automatic car are readily interchangeble. I have NOT heard/seen any one who has done this kind of swap successfully.

Auto parts stores (like Autozone and Pepboys) sell spray paint for plastic. Use that paint.
Are you trying to paint inside of the headlight housing? Or outside the headlight housing?

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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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thanks pcy im trying to painted the inside of the headlights, so you dont thing the cluster will work, so u lived closedi work in nashua town fair
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pcy
I don't think the clusters from manual car and automatic car are readily interchangeble. I have NOT heard/seen any one who has done this kind of swap successfully.

Auto parts stores (like Autozone and Pepboys) sell spray paint for plastic. Use that paint.
Are you trying to paint inside of the headlight housing? Or outside the headlight housing?

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woa woa woa are you sure about telling him to just take plastic spray paint and go for it? isn't there a much more dreadful process than that? on the w203 amg forums, one of my buddies did a thread like this one and got a list of stuff he must do first otherwise it messes it up.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Don't know about the pre facelift but on the facelift model it should work. Give it a try and see...I have a feeling it should work because the data is being sent to the ICM and not the ICM deciding what gear it's in.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Mike thanks but let me know I just want the best idea to paint them

Karo thanks buddy I'm going to go for it if it dosent work it dosent but ill let u know thanks.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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thats how i painted my headlight. I just sanded the chrome down so that it could stick. I havent been able to test it against the elements yet but if your doing it the same way i did it. I cant foresee too many issues since its not close to the bulb.

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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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if you are planning on doing it the same way i did it, you need to use masking tape that doesnt stick too much. I think i used 3m delicate( not sure if thats what it was called), and dont leave the tape on over night because the chrome will peel off with the tape. Its very easy to take the chrome off if your not careful.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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I know if you were to swap clusters of the same year, that your mileage would not work. Not too sure what happens when you try and swap a newer one.
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attached is the coding that needs to be taken place on the post facelift ICM. Found out Mileage is stored in both ECU and ICM. They both have to match or else your ICM (instrument cluster) will lock out. A change in the ICU will make a change in the ECU and the other way around. If you can find someone with STAR in your area they can do this for you easily including changing the miles accordingly.

Bottom line is it will work but you will need it coded via SDS/DAS/STAR (whatever you want to call it).



If your ICM isn't messed up, I would just leave it alone.

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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fookoo303
thats how i painted my headlight. I just sanded the chrome down so that it could stick. I havent been able to test it against the elements yet but if your doing it the same way i did it. I cant foresee too many issues since its not close to the bulb.

fookoo was that a halogen and has a retrofit projector on it ??
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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Thanks a lot guys for the info
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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attached is the coding that needs to be taken place on the post facelift ICM. Found out Mileage is stored in both ECU and ICM. They both have to match or else your ICM (instrument cluster) will lock out. A change in the ICU will make a change in the ECU and the other way around. If you can find someone with STAR in your area they can do this for you easily including changing the miles accordingly.

Bottom line is it will work but you will need it coded via SDS/DAS/STAR (whatever you want to call it).



If your ICM isn't messed up, I would just leave it alone.
Karo in going to try it connecting it first see what happens thanks for the info
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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thats how i painted my headlight. I just sanded the chrome down so that it could stick. I havent been able to test it against the elements yet but if your doing it the same way i did it. I cant foresee too many issues since its not close to the bulb.

Fookoo303 lights look great what kind of paint u used
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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they're cheap eagle eyes but im retrofitting them with s2kr projectors and gatling gun shrouds.
mbz, i just used plastic paint that used for model cars. The chrome part is just clear plastic once you sand off the chrome.
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thanks pcy im trying to painted the inside of the headlights, so you dont thing the cluster will work, so u lived closedi work in nashua town fair
yup, I live in Nashua. My commute is 3 South to 495 North...
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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Cluster is not going to work. If it does please come back here and own me in the face.. with pictures
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