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Can the SPRINGS that control DEFLECTION of the 6 spd MANUAL tran SHIFTER be ADJUSTED?

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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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Can the SPRINGS that control DEFLECTION of the 6 spd MANUAL tran SHIFTER be ADJUSTED?

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have 06 mt 350, the throws were alittle long so i cut off an inch of the stick, use momo knob, throws shorter and quicker but the spring that keeps stick from deflecting is stiffer, esp when moving to Reverse, my Q is, can i loosen the tension in the springs to make shifts even sweeeeeta? thanx, mike
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Nice double post. Man, I thought Beasley was the only one with a mt 350. Been lyin' low?
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 01:01 AM
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 01:40 AM
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Open it up see what springs are in there then try to find some that are the same length with a lower spring rate.
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 05:04 AM
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If you are doing this to lighten feel then thats fine. If you are trying to achieve quicker gear changes - DON'T - The synchromesh in this gearbox is not up to it & will baulk & show accelerated wear. Esp. 2nd gear.
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You can't change the detent, it is internal to the transmission. You took away some of the leverage by making the shifter shorter. If you want to get that back, you need to go back to an unmodified shifter.
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If you are going to mod something without really understanding what you're doing, you're never going to arrrive at what you want.

As the past two posters have said, having the ability to slam the gears in a short amount of time over a short distance will only lead to having to swap out your tranny in short order. If you shorten the throw, it will feel better, but require you to baby the shifts more.

What you're looking for is a true short shift kit, which takes into account both a shorter throw but still gives you the smoothness of the normal shifter, but doesn't exist for our cars. So you will have to decide if you want to compromise on the feel, like you have by shortening the shifter, or go back to stock and live with a longer throw. The only semi-happy medium is to get a stock shifter, and put a shift knob that is much lower than stock on it; that accomplishes both goals, while having the ability to look and feel better than the large, ugly OEM knobs. Your Momo probably does that.

It's unfortunate that some aftermarket company hasn't picked up this aspect, but mods to the manual shifting on Benzes isn't a high priority.
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Benz sells this as one unit. You would have to modify the forward speed detents in this unit. The reverse gear detent is built into the transmission casing.

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thanx for all the feedback, im lookin for better feel, Viper, great idea, can anyone walk me thru the open it up procedure??? thanx
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You need to get someone to pull out the teardown procedure from WIS.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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what , where is WIS ???
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It is the workshop information system that Benz dealers use to know how to fix things properly.
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would b nice to have 1 avail on the net
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What I said was purely an idea (or guess), as I personally have never taken it apart. You're asking people what to do instead of just taking stuff apart yourself? (which the center console is not hard to do, and there is a writeup for it on the forum already).
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great idea, ill try the console removal
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You need to remove the gearbox from the vehicle & strip it. You do not need to remove the console.
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im a beginner to intermediate mechanic esp if i have instructions and illustrations, are these avail?? and if so how many hours do u think job would take? thanx, mike
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