View Poll Results: What Tires are the best?
Goodyear
21
5.92%
Toyo
28
7.89%
Michelin
140
39.44%
Continental
43
12.11%
Falken
25
7.04%
Pirelli
43
12.11%
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55
15.49%
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W203/CL203/S203 TIRE Discussion Thread - Every question on TIRES
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From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
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Adjusting the castor 1 deg more on the passenger side to 10.4 will stop that drift right on a cambered road. So drivers side will be at minimum spec & passenger at maximum. MB has hammered this into all the tyre shops in South Africa - It works - If you have trouble I can try & scan my alignment set up for you.
Adjusting the castor 1 deg more on the passenger side to 10.4 will stop that drift right on a cambered road. So drivers side will be at minimum spec & passenger at maximum. MB has hammered this into all the tyre shops in South Africa - It works - If you have trouble I can try & scan my alignment set up for you.
Please remember this is for RHD you must do the opposite for LHD
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Nov 8, 2008 at 03:07 PM.
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About Castor adjustments:
Mr. Ruck, thanks for the info. I don't think Tire Kingdom is aware of that detail. I am in the States, LHD, I am a little confused. I don't want to walk into their shop claiming something, and then stammer if they question me. Could you specify exactly what the numbers should be for castor on driver and passenger for a LHD car.
Thanks again for the great info.
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Anybody?...Beuhller? ....Beuhller?
About Castor adjustments:
Mr. Ruck, thanks for the info. I don't think Tire Kingdom is aware of that detail. I am in the States, LHD, I am a little confused. I don't want to walk into their shop claiming something, and then stammer if they question me. Could you specify exactly what the numbers should be for castor on driver and passenger for a LHD car.
Thanks again for the great info.
About Castor adjustments:
Mr. Ruck, thanks for the info. I don't think Tire Kingdom is aware of that detail. I am in the States, LHD, I am a little confused. I don't want to walk into their shop claiming something, and then stammer if they question me. Could you specify exactly what the numbers should be for castor on driver and passenger for a LHD car.
Thanks again for the great info.
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2004 C240
Pls help in deciding the right tires.
Hi All,
I have 2 different brands of tires (205/55/16) on my car(2004 benz c240 rwd) in the front and rear. Specifically Fuzion VRi (~10,000 mi old) in the rear and Hankook in the front. I bought the car used and it came with those tires. Now, I want to replace the front tires. I was doing research and decided to buy General Altimax HP tires. I heard that they have good traction in dry/wet/icy conditions. Now my questions:
1. Are General Altimax HP tires good?
2. Is it ok to have 2 different brands of tires on the front and back (which is what I am having right now).
3. If I have to have same brand on all 4 wheels, which one will be good, General or Fuzion?
Please help me. I am stuck deciding... It snows moderately in my place. So I would like to have good set of tires for this winter.
Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s)!
I have 2 different brands of tires (205/55/16) on my car(2004 benz c240 rwd) in the front and rear. Specifically Fuzion VRi (~10,000 mi old) in the rear and Hankook in the front. I bought the car used and it came with those tires. Now, I want to replace the front tires. I was doing research and decided to buy General Altimax HP tires. I heard that they have good traction in dry/wet/icy conditions. Now my questions:
1. Are General Altimax HP tires good?
2. Is it ok to have 2 different brands of tires on the front and back (which is what I am having right now).
3. If I have to have same brand on all 4 wheels, which one will be good, General or Fuzion?
Please help me. I am stuck deciding... It snows moderately in my place. So I would like to have good set of tires for this winter.
Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s)!
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1. i have the general exclaims and i'm pretty happy with there performance. General's are just the value brand for continental but they come out of the same factory.
2. yeah you should be fine
3. person choice with be general for a decent performing economy tire. Performance would be goodyear f1 summer tires or michelin ps2's.
You can go to the wheel and tire section. They have pretty good recommendations on there.
2. yeah you should be fine
3. person choice with be general for a decent performing economy tire. Performance would be goodyear f1 summer tires or michelin ps2's.
You can go to the wheel and tire section. They have pretty good recommendations on there.
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People have experienced a lot of run out & balancing problems with them. Be prepared to make your tyre shop change one out if it causes vibration
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i driven on generals for the last 10k without any vibrations or balancing issues. I've even driven them on canyons without any problems, but there economy roots do show at the limit, but i was keeping up with mj's modded e55 with michelin ps2 pretty well on them.
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From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
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On our shores Dunlop are having more trouble in this regard than Conti/General. The UHP seems the most troublesome in the General line
Interestingly the Conti & Barum brands are made in the South African plant & the Generals are imported
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Yeah Mike - you obviously got a good set. I don't think there is much wrong with them as long as you don't get one of those bad ones that show up. If you do rather than grind it round I just think you should make the tyre shop replace them as defective.
On our shores Dunlop are having more trouble in this regard than Conti/General. The UHP seems the most troublesome in the General line
Interestingly the Conti & Barum brands are made in the South African plant & the Generals are imported
On our shores Dunlop are having more trouble in this regard than Conti/General. The UHP seems the most troublesome in the General line
Interestingly the Conti & Barum brands are made in the South African plant & the Generals are imported
i had more trouble with my pirelli's i bought. The tires had a defect..where the car would keep leaning to the left even with balancing, alignment, moving the tires around. i just learned to live with it..i'm never buying them ever again. I remember they were made in turkey.
Are you sure about the imported part? i could've sworn the set i had said made in south africa.
the other alternative would be falkens.
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i'm using them both on my car and the gf's car. they seem to be ok with me.
i had more trouble with my pirelli's i bought. The tires had a defect..where the car would keep leaning to the left even with balancing, alignment, moving the tires around. i just learned to live with it..i'm never buying them ever again. I remember they were made in turkey.
Are you sure about the imported part? i could've sworn the set i had said made in south africa.
the other alternative would be falkens.
i had more trouble with my pirelli's i bought. The tires had a defect..where the car would keep leaning to the left even with balancing, alignment, moving the tires around. i just learned to live with it..i'm never buying them ever again. I remember they were made in turkey.
Are you sure about the imported part? i could've sworn the set i had said made in south africa.
the other alternative would be falkens.
Nothing called General made here anymore for passenger cars - Only 4X4 tyres
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Thanks for all the responses/views guys.. But I still have an unanswered question, is it ok to just replace the 2 front tires with general altimax hp and leave the fuzion vri on the rear? or would you rather suggest me to buy all the 4 tires?
thanks,
thanks,
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Best to run all four tyres of same brand but if you want to wear off some old tyres that's OK too. On a RWD car put your best tyres on the front. In fact I disagree with our AA. I would always put the best tyres on the front. Your steering & most of braking wheels.
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Thank you!
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Ruck, does "run out" has anything to do with directional tires?
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i have Exclaim's with 15k and no problems whatsoever...
there isn't really anything wrong with running two differnt types of tires...people do it all the time - just spend a few hours at a local tire shop and you'll see what I mean
personally, i have a pet-peave about different tires on one car, it's the OCD side of me...
but seriously, as cheap as General's are, why not jsut spend the extra $150and buy all four? or, with 10k miles on the Fuzion's, they should still have more than 50% tread left...so if you're strapped for cash, just by two Fuzion fronts.
there isn't really anything wrong with running two differnt types of tires...people do it all the time - just spend a few hours at a local tire shop and you'll see what I mean
personally, i have a pet-peave about different tires on one car, it's the OCD side of me...
but seriously, as cheap as General's are, why not jsut spend the extra $150and buy all four? or, with 10k miles on the Fuzion's, they should still have more than 50% tread left...so if you're strapped for cash, just by two Fuzion fronts.
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No - badly constructed tyres. Directional or non directional, symetrical or non symetrical tread makes no diference to this problem
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tires for 05 c230 sports coupe
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Ah, thats BS. I mean, BS, there not out of round or any run out problems.
I just got 2 new ones on the rear.
Still had 5/32 left on my Bridgestone RE050A PP's on the front amazingly.
I just got back after driving 2K miles with my old Exclaims on the back.
(2nd set of rims, ordered tires but they didn't come in time)
Even after getting them balanced along the way, the car still shook and vibrated. They are crap.
Now, with my AMG rims back on the car, new Sumi's on the back and same Bridgestones on the front, it rides and drives like a dream.
Tire rack did a comparison with the BS RE050A PP's to Michelin PS2's they were very close...
and the new Sumi's they tested against the BS's head to head and the Sumi's won by a couple hundreths of a point, at a fraction of the cost of either of those tires.
Sumi's are the best bang for the buck right now.
Fuzion's were the sheit a few years ago. I had several sets,
the Sumi's ride so much better while maintaining awesome grip and handliing.
And I had PS2's as well that came on my current rims.
I'd say the Sumi's are almost if not just as good.
Quiet, excellent ride, handling, grip and even work well in the rain.
Perfect.
I just got 2 new ones on the rear.
Still had 5/32 left on my Bridgestone RE050A PP's on the front amazingly.
I just got back after driving 2K miles with my old Exclaims on the back.
(2nd set of rims, ordered tires but they didn't come in time)
Even after getting them balanced along the way, the car still shook and vibrated. They are crap.
Now, with my AMG rims back on the car, new Sumi's on the back and same Bridgestones on the front, it rides and drives like a dream.
Tire rack did a comparison with the BS RE050A PP's to Michelin PS2's they were very close...
and the new Sumi's they tested against the BS's head to head and the Sumi's won by a couple hundreths of a point, at a fraction of the cost of either of those tires.
Sumi's are the best bang for the buck right now.
Fuzion's were the sheit a few years ago. I had several sets,
the Sumi's ride so much better while maintaining awesome grip and handliing.
And I had PS2's as well that came on my current rims.
I'd say the Sumi's are almost if not just as good.
Quiet, excellent ride, handling, grip and even work well in the rain.
Perfect.
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Many many threads on this...try searching.
tirerack.com is good place and a sponsor.
But I like the Sumitomo HTR ZIII's.
tirerack.com is good place and a sponsor.
But I like the Sumitomo HTR ZIII's.
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Ah, thats BS. I mean, BS, there not out of round or any run out problems.
I just got 2 new ones on the rear.
Still had 5/32 left on my Bridgestone RE050A PP's on the front amazingly.
I just got back after driving 2K miles with my old Exclaims on the back.
(2nd set of rims, ordered tires but they didn't come in time)
Even after getting them balanced along the way, the car still shook and vibrated. They are crap.
Now, with my AMG rims back on the car, new Sumi's on the back and same Bridgestones on the front, it rides and drives like a dream.
Tire rack did a comparison with the BS RE050A PP's to Michelin PS2's they were very close...
and the new Sumi's they tested against the BS's head to head and the Sumi's won by a couple hundreths of a point, at a fraction of the cost of either of those tires.
Sumi's are the best bang for the buck right now.
Fuzion's were the sheit a few years ago. I had several sets,
the Sumi's ride so much better while maintaining awesome grip and handliing.
And I had PS2's as well that came on my current rims.
I'd say the Sumi's are almost if not just as good.
Quiet, excellent ride, handling, grip and even work well in the rain.
Perfect.
I just got 2 new ones on the rear.
Still had 5/32 left on my Bridgestone RE050A PP's on the front amazingly.
I just got back after driving 2K miles with my old Exclaims on the back.
(2nd set of rims, ordered tires but they didn't come in time)
Even after getting them balanced along the way, the car still shook and vibrated. They are crap.
Now, with my AMG rims back on the car, new Sumi's on the back and same Bridgestones on the front, it rides and drives like a dream.
Tire rack did a comparison with the BS RE050A PP's to Michelin PS2's they were very close...
and the new Sumi's they tested against the BS's head to head and the Sumi's won by a couple hundreths of a point, at a fraction of the cost of either of those tires.
Sumi's are the best bang for the buck right now.
Fuzion's were the sheit a few years ago. I had several sets,
the Sumi's ride so much better while maintaining awesome grip and handliing.
And I had PS2's as well that came on my current rims.
I'd say the Sumi's are almost if not just as good.
Quiet, excellent ride, handling, grip and even work well in the rain.
Perfect.
While I am a Michelin person - I fully accept that Sumi make a nice tyre if you get good ones. The Japanese Dunlop plant has always made great tyres.
Let us know where your Sumi's were made.
You've had crap with Exclaims which is the South African experience. TemjinX has no such problems - It's luck of the draw.
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Just remember that Sumitomo Corp is a general trading company involved in everything from Shipping, to Finance to Civil Contruction. They used to have tyres made for them by Dunlop & ultimately bought Dunlop. Sumi's are Dunlop developed with the Sumi name on them.
