View Poll Results: What Tires are the best?
Goodyear
21
5.92%
Toyo
28
7.89%
Michelin
140
39.44%
Continental
43
12.11%
Falken
25
7.04%
Pirelli
43
12.11%
Other
55
15.49%
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W203/CL203/S203 TIRE Discussion Thread - Every question on TIRES
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Audi S4
Originally posted by FrankW
Bridgestone RE950. Tread wear is 400 and traction is great, both wet and dry. After my Pilot's gone, i will get those.
Check out TireRack.com they have ratings for each tires.
Bridgestone RE950. Tread wear is 400 and traction is great, both wet and dry. After my Pilot's gone, i will get those.
Check out TireRack.com they have ratings for each tires.
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From: Diamond Bar, CA
W206 PHEV AMG
Originally posted by AndrewK
We have that tire on our 2000 C230, and its AWFUL! The OE P6000s rode much better and had only slightly less grip. We've tried everything to soften these tires up (but not using air pressures under 28/32), but they are rough as h*ll. Maybe we just got a bad set, but I wouldnt recommend these tires for anything other than a swing.
We have that tire on our 2000 C230, and its AWFUL! The OE P6000s rode much better and had only slightly less grip. We've tried everything to soften these tires up (but not using air pressures under 28/32), but they are rough as h*ll. Maybe we just got a bad set, but I wouldnt recommend these tires for anything other than a swing.
i want to get those because they are not as expensive and they will last longer.
my brother has those on his car. Could be that his car is heavier, so we don't notice a lot of difference.
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Originally posted by FrankW
it should be that way because of the higher treadwear (harder compound). Harder compound also means harsher ride.
i want to get those because they are not as expensive and they will last longer.
my brother has those on his car. Could be that his car is heavier, so we don't notice a lot of difference.
it should be that way because of the higher treadwear (harder compound). Harder compound also means harsher ride.
i want to get those because they are not as expensive and they will last longer.
my brother has those on his car. Could be that his car is heavier, so we don't notice a lot of difference.
Also the Pilot Sport A/S has a 400 rating, but they ride better than the 950s despite being 225/40-18 vs. 205/55-16.
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2010 C300 4matic
Check out the new Yokohama AVS ES100. They are supposed to be really good tires and they are pretty cheap, not much more than the Kumho's. I have driven on them a little bit, but they are not on my car. They seem pretty good, and they look good too. I think the look of the tire can make a good wheel look even better.
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W206 PHEV AMG
Originally posted by AndrewK
I guess so, but to me it was strange that the Michelin MXV4s were so much softer, yet were the same size (205/55-16), and close to the same treadwear rating.
Also the Pilot Sport A/S has a 400 rating, but they ride better than the 950s despite being 225/40-18 vs. 205/55-16.
I guess so, but to me it was strange that the Michelin MXV4s were so much softer, yet were the same size (205/55-16), and close to the same treadwear rating.
Also the Pilot Sport A/S has a 400 rating, but they ride better than the 950s despite being 225/40-18 vs. 205/55-16.
But damn...i just found out there is no 225/45 17 and 245/40 17 for the RE950...
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From: Atlanta, GA
C230 coupe 6sp
uh oh, I started a tire war
Anyways, the rims are 17x8. They will fit on the front OK? Also, is 225-45-17 the largest that will fit both front and back? I want to be able to rotate them, so I need the largest that will fit both ends.
Anyways, the rims are 17x8. They will fit on the front OK? Also, is 225-45-17 the largest that will fit both front and back? I want to be able to rotate them, so I need the largest that will fit both ends.
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2002 C 230K
New tires??!!!@#%#@!
I just picked up the car after its "A" service and on the receipt it says "tires almost down to bar, replace all 4 tires." The car has less than 12,000 miles on it. I have those Pilot Sports, not all weather. Is this normal wear for those tires, and if so, what tires do I get next. I already replaced one tire because of an unrepairable flat at $400, now to replace ALL four!!?? It's too much!!! Help, please...
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2010 C300 4matic
Yes, this is normal wear. This is what you get by using low profile performance tires. They have lots of grip because they are soft, but they wear out fast. So, while they might not need to be replaced immediately, the dealer's advice is probably right. But you don't need to buy the Pilot Sports and you don't need to buy them from the dealer. Tire Rack sells these for less than $200 and you can get other good tires for even cheaper.
So my advice is to get 4 tires on your own, from Tirerack if you choose, and get them installed either at the dealer or another tire shop. But the MB parts dept. will rip you off on tires.
So my advice is to get 4 tires on your own, from Tirerack if you choose, and get them installed either at the dealer or another tire shop. But the MB parts dept. will rip you off on tires.
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2010 C300 4matic
Try looking for Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 or Yokohama AVS ES100. These are my best recommendations and also two of the cheapest. But they are also good tires. You might like them better than Michelins. A lot of people seem to be brainwashed into thinking that Michelins are always the best. Not true, in my opinion.
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I concur. The dealer will rip you off. If you are not a very aggresive driver the Kumhos are a great set of tires. I had them on my car, then switched it to my girlfriends Audi. They run great. Feel a lot better than the Pirelli P7000 Supersport. I run BFGoodrich KDW2 which are really great tires that can handle my abuse. All these can be found at www.tirerack.com 
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From: Scottsdale, AZ
2002 C 230K
Thanks for your quick responses... No, I would NOT buy any tires from the dealer; I just wanted recommendations for new tires. I am an agressive driver..speed, stop, etc. I know it's not great for the car/tires, but I am impatient, especially with the drivers here. So any other recommendations for an aggressive driver? Thanks!
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GL450, Sienna SE
Originally posted by Margo
Thanks for your quick responses... No, I would NOT buy any tires from the dealer; I just wanted recommendations for new tires. I am an agressive driver..speed, stop, etc. I know it's not great for the car/tires, but I am impatient, especially with the drivers here. So any other recommendations for an aggressive driver? Thanks!
Thanks for your quick responses... No, I would NOT buy any tires from the dealer; I just wanted recommendations for new tires. I am an agressive driver..speed, stop, etc. I know it's not great for the car/tires, but I am impatient, especially with the drivers here. So any other recommendations for an aggressive driver? Thanks!
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2010 C300 4matic
Originally posted by nov0798
hmmm, i have almost 20000 on my tires and they are no where near the wear bar. i would never, never buy another set of kumhos, i had nothing but problems with those damm tires. you get what you pay 4.
hmmm, i have almost 20000 on my tires and they are no where near the wear bar. i would never, never buy another set of kumhos, i had nothing but problems with those damm tires. you get what you pay 4.
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If you can reasonably afford them, the Pilot Sport A/S tires are wonderful. They have excellent traction (especially in the wet), are very smooth and quiet, and also have a 400 treadwear rating! To the contrary, we have Bridgeston RE950s on our 2000 C-Class and they are AWFUL. Grip is decent, but they are loud and extremely rough. The Pilot Sport A/S tires on 18s ride better and are quieter than RE950s on 16s.
BTW Frank, I think we have had this discussion before!
BTW Frank, I think we have had this discussion before!
Last edited by AndrewK; Jan 4, 2003 at 12:47 AM.
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W206 PHEV AMG
Originally posted by AndrewK
If you can reasonably afford them, the Pilot Sport A/S tires are wonderful. They have excellent traction (especially in the wet), are very smooth and quiet, and also have a 400 treadwear rating! To the contrary, we have Bridgeston RE950s on our 2000 C-Class and they are AWFUL. Grip is decent, but they are loud and extremely rough. The Pilot Sport A/S tires on 18s ride better and are quieter than RE950s on 16s.
BTW Frank, I think we have had this discussion before!
If you can reasonably afford them, the Pilot Sport A/S tires are wonderful. They have excellent traction (especially in the wet), are very smooth and quiet, and also have a 400 treadwear rating! To the contrary, we have Bridgeston RE950s on our 2000 C-Class and they are AWFUL. Grip is decent, but they are loud and extremely rough. The Pilot Sport A/S tires on 18s ride better and are quieter than RE950s on 16s.
BTW Frank, I think we have had this discussion before!
RE950's probably best for the 17 inch set up. check out tirerack.com's rating for those tires.
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2002 C 230K
So I assume the Pilot Sports AS wear better... I don't really need an all season tire because we have only two seasons here: summer and summer, and no rain to speak of. I may try the other ones mentioned, though.
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2010 C300 4matic
Originally posted by Margo
So I assume the Pilot Sports AS wear better... I don't really need an all season tire because we have only two seasons here: summer and summer, and no rain to speak of. I may try the other ones mentioned, though.
So I assume the Pilot Sports AS wear better... I don't really need an all season tire because we have only two seasons here: summer and summer, and no rain to speak of. I may try the other ones mentioned, though.
I still recommend the Yokohama AVS ES100 or even better the AVS Sport.
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Originally posted by Matt230K
As nice as the Pilot Sport A/S might be, you don't need it.
As nice as the Pilot Sport A/S might be, you don't need it.
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2010 C300 4matic
Originally posted by AndrewK
Yeah, you dont need it. But the ride and noise control is better than any other performance tire I've ever had. It just depends on whether thats worth the extra $50/ tire.
Yeah, you dont need it. But the ride and noise control is better than any other performance tire I've ever had. It just depends on whether thats worth the extra $50/ tire.
I don't know how partial you are to Michelins, but I have had mixed results with all kinds of them. A lot of people believe they are superior to all other tires, just because of the name. But I have been very impressed with Yokohama and they will be my next tire. My current Pilot Sports are not bad, but I hated them for the first few thousand miles until they really got broken in.
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'23 EQE 350 4MATIC
Which tires are the best?
Have a look at this thread from Luke at Tirerack.com. These are his impressions of the best tires for each type of performance you want.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...&threadid=5877
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...&threadid=5877
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i wish my pilot sport tires would last me 12,000 miles. I brought my car in for my service A at 5,000 miles and they said need new rear tires immediately.
Right now i have 5,500 miles and they are almost bald.
Right now i have 5,500 miles and they are almost bald.
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2010 C300 4matic
Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
i wish my pilot sport tires would last me 12,000 miles. I brought my car in for my service A at 5,000 miles and they said need new rear tires immediately. Right now i have 5,500 miles and they are almost bald.
i wish my pilot sport tires would last me 12,000 miles. I brought my car in for my service A at 5,000 miles and they said need new rear tires immediately.
Right now i have 5,500 miles and they are almost bald.
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From: Vienna, Austria
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Originally posted by Matt230K
I don't know how partial you are to Michelins
I don't know how partial you are to Michelins
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