MPG
and don't have access to non ethanol 92, then u should be techron-ing monthly. good popcorn although makes for great farts, is not a viable solution for powering high performance engines... sorry for the rant. In summary, m271 230s should see 30+mpg NO PROBLEM on the freeway, and if your not, u gotta problem somewhere. Barring obvious tire issues, I would start with your fuel, then techron, then change your air filter, then plugs, then if your not running in the 30s I'd sell that **** before your stuck holding the lemon. Take the $ and buy another benz and rest easy.
btw it seems like you might be confused about taking your mileage properly so - if your not understanding how to take your mileage this is how: if you want to find out freeway mileage, get up to your desired cruising speed(65mph-75mph), set the CC, then reset your mileage, it will start up around 28mpg and climb or drop from there. City mileage is shotty at best and is not a good indicator of how your engine is doing because unless its below 15mpg, it could totally depend on driving style, how many hills/stopsigns/school busses/u name it happens to be in your city.
and don't have access to non ethanol 92, then u should be techron-ing monthly. good popcorn although makes for great farts, is not a viable solution for powering high performance engines... sorry for the rant. In summary, m271 230s should see 30+mpg NO PROBLEM on the freeway, and if your not, u gotta problem somewhere. Barring obvious tire issues, I would start with your fuel, then techron, then change your air filter, then plugs, then if your not running in the 30s I'd sell that **** before your stuck holding the lemon. Take the $ and buy another benz and rest easy.
btw it seems like you might be confused about taking your mileage properly so - if your not understanding how to take your mileage this is how: if you want to find out freeway mileage, get up to your desired cruising speed(65mph-75mph), set the CC, then reset your mileage, it will start up around 28mpg and climb or drop from there. City mileage is shotty at best and is not a good indicator of how your engine is doing because unless its below 15mpg, it could totally depend on driving style, how many hills/stopsigns/school busses/u name it happens to be in your city.
I would also recommend the $12 hose replacement, which requires a little more effort, might be a good idea just to have MB run your VIN to see if it has already been done, cuz if it hasnt they will do it for free (which is always the best price). If it has been done, there is some evidence from forum members that after 25-50k miles it needed to be done again, which was done on their dime... which is literally $12 and 2 hours of time (granted you have girl like or "Asain-like" hands - not my quote) - with this problem usually you would notice that your car is running rougher than normal, especially at idle, but since you bought it this way, it would likely seem "normal" to you.
Doing all of the above will cost you in the neighborhood of $150ish. I stand by my previous statement though, IMHO if you do the above and don't get above 30mpg reliably on the highway, sell that **** cuz something is going on that is gonna cost you alot of time and/or money to figure out and square away.
I would say that you will find on here that although these are MB's, they are quite easy for the at home pseudo-mechanic to do most routine maintenence on. This forum provides good knowledge base to do even harder items such as AC compressor/pulley replacement and more complex suspension tweaking. Most of the time all you need is some decent metric socket set, torx set, tweakers, elbow grease, and a fridge stocked with the beer of your choosing
Last edited by pwcummings; Mar 9, 2011 at 03:00 PM. Reason: because i wasn't long-winded enough the first time around...
My 16-gallon tank barely goes 250 miles with the Mrs. lollygagging around town. Almost certain she seldom goes past half throttle. [=quote]
Good job M271 guys for not biting on this attack and ruining the legitimacy of this thread...lol
Last edited by pwcummings; Mar 9, 2011 at 03:01 PM.
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
1) engine displacement
2) Manual vs Auto transmission
3) use of air conditioning
4) driving style.
5) trip computer reset habits
6) tire choice
and that comparisons should take all these into account.
I notice those of you getting 31-35 mpg mostly have manual transmissions. Higher mileage with a manual is to be expected.
Resetting your trip computer when you are up to highway speeds is a mild form of cheating, IMO. I measure mileage from tank start to tank end, and let the chips fall where they may. My average speed per tank is usually 38mph (includes city and hwy driving).
You will find that using the climate control system full time lessens your gas mileage. I run my C320 3.2L V6 auto in the "Rest" a/c setting on all but the hottest days. It's just that pleasant in Dallas year-round... open the RR window 3 inches and tip up the sunroof and you have nice air circulation at any speed. From experience over 10-years, I can tell you that using the A/C fulltime depletes at least 2 mpg (32-50 miles) from any tank avg.
Finally, I changed from the standard 205 width tires to 225s, and noticed mileage drop over 30K miles. The fatter tires look cooler, but that extra 1/2" of rubber contact created more rolling resistance for me. Once I went back to 205s, the mileage returned.
YMMV.
Last edited by MB-BOB; Mar 9, 2011 at 05:19 PM.
Here's some proof... C320, 3.2L V6, automatic. A/C at "rest."
Left picture is normal, 10-11 hours of driving over a typical 2 weeks here in Dallas. Tank full to almost empty, 12 starts from cold, stops, idling at lights, everything in between. The higher your average speed (LL) the better the overall mileage = 26.2mpg. 424 miles on the 16.4gal tank (it actually holds 16.8)
Right picture is a 3 hour Interstate commute from my home in Dallas area to my job in Round Rock, TX in 2007. Notice the ambient temperature. 32.1mpg
Last edited by MB-BOB; Mar 9, 2011 at 05:47 PM.
After buying this car I have made mpg calculation into a fine science, mostly because my brother is the GM of the local Honda/Toyota dealer and is pissed at me for buy a MB (even though i let him do the financing on it...). So when he says "dude, why didn't u buy that Accord?" I can say "dude, i get better gas mileage in the MB, and its waaaaaay more fun to drive!" - then I show him one of the 20 pictures I have of my dash showing 33-36mpg at 65-75mph on a trip to the city.
Last edited by pwcummings; Mar 9, 2011 at 06:15 PM. Reason: "the duck flies at midnight" - google it
If you reset the trip computer once up to speed on the highway, you are cheating the computer into delivering "instantaneous" mileage, instead... an average mpg since the reset, only. You are instructing the computer to ignore warm-up from cold, any stops for lights, or acceleration to hwy speed. IMO, your claims of 34-35mpg are quite misleading, when compared to others who use the trip computer as intended.
Ocassionally, I have done this myself, just to see what the computer does, and indeed it gives very inflated mpg calculations. (Reset while coasting down a hill to see 45-50mpg, no problem.) However, you're just teasing yourselves. Manually calculating miles driven / gallons used on fill-up will bring you back to reality that can't be fudged.
I use the "Since Reset" page to compute tank average from fillup to fillup, and I use the "Since Start" page to compute daily commutes. I believe all c-class models have similar pages, although they may be named differently.
Last edited by MB-BOB; Mar 9, 2011 at 08:05 PM.
You should be filling up to about the same level every time, because if you just let the pump go until it cuts off(which you should because you shouldn't overfill the tank) it'll cut off at the same level each time.
This will be the most accurate way to determine your mileage average.

in the C230 (which is getting REALLY close to 100k miles), with only Chevron 91 in it with Techron Concentrate Plus added to it about twice a year, a fuel filter that was replaced at about 70k miles, 19" wheels with 235's up front and 265's in the rear, I generally get 16mpg in pure city driving. Combined city and highway, with me trying to get good gas mileage, I get about 25-27mpg (both statistics were from the on screen display).
During long trips, I can get about 400 miles on one tank.
The M5 on the other hand:

The entry with 13.76 mpg is with my wife warming up the car in the morning for 15 minutes and driving very very short trips (1 mile each trip).
This is my mileage for '07 C280 4-matic with ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with the car, tires properly inflated, no jack-rabbit driving. Mixed city/highway driving.
I get very similar (slightly lower) mileage on my '04 C320 4-matic as well.
Last edited by pcy; Mar 10, 2011 at 08:57 AM.

The W203 achieved it's .27 cd with 195/60/15 tyres fitted.
My regular city driving is 12.2L/100km, and on trips from Vancouver to Seattle I can get into the ~7.5L/100km.
Thus I agree with others, if you're getting good mileage on the highway then your bad mileage is just cause of the type of city driving you do. I have a very bad commute of start-stops, and a lead foot, so my mileage sucks.
I have a lead foot and even if I gun it all day, I can't get lower than 20-21 mpg with the 2.5L V6. Unless of course I'm sitting on the beltway for hours in traffic, which is why I'm glad I take the metro to work!



