Door Pin and Surround Thread - All You Want To Know
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'06 Lexus GS300 RWD, '07 Camry SE V6 auto, '91 190E 2.6 auto
This is one of my favorite mods! It's been a while since I changed mine. I picked some straight, black knobs from an auto parts place. I think they were made for Ford. My dealer was either out of stock, or wanted too much for them. I can't remember. I just know I can now rest my arm on the window sill without being poked in the arm by the stock knobs!
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WAIT. THINK ABOUT AND RESPOND TO BELOW.
My BMW that has straight lock pins standard also has safeguard programming and secondary power to unlock the doors automatically in a bad accident where the airbags deploy.
Do the C-Class sedans have this safeguard programming as well or are these retrofitted straight pins possibly dangerous in an bad accident where you lose power to the locks? You could be locked in without a way to manually pull the pins up.
My BMW that has straight lock pins standard also has safeguard programming and secondary power to unlock the doors automatically in a bad accident where the airbags deploy.
Do the C-Class sedans have this safeguard programming as well or are these retrofitted straight pins possibly dangerous in an bad accident where you lose power to the locks? You could be locked in without a way to manually pull the pins up.
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'06 Lexus GS300 RWD, '07 Camry SE V6 auto, '91 190E 2.6 auto
The doors unlock when you pull the interior door handle. I think it is a mechanical connection. If not, I suppose someone could go out and pull the connection on the battery and see what they're able to do with the locks.
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Originally posted by SOC320
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Do the C-Class sedans have this safeguard programming as well or are these retrofitted straight pins possibly dangerous in an bad accident where you lose power to the locks? You could be locked in without a way to manually pull the pins up.
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Do the C-Class sedans have this safeguard programming as well or are these retrofitted straight pins possibly dangerous in an bad accident where you lose power to the locks? You could be locked in without a way to manually pull the pins up.
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This is good confirmation to have for all of us considering this.
So everyone should be in good shape based on the previous confirmation from Jim and avlis that if after an bad accident disabling power:
1. The doors can be opened by pulling on the door handle.
and
2. The doors will be unlocked automatically.
Okay... let the discussion of door pins proceed. Thanks all.
So everyone should be in good shape based on the previous confirmation from Jim and avlis that if after an bad accident disabling power:
1. The doors can be opened by pulling on the door handle.
and
2. The doors will be unlocked automatically.
Okay... let the discussion of door pins proceed. Thanks all.
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Originally posted by FrankW
just what antonio said. I just changed mine not long ago. It's a dollar each. Just go in and ask for the C-coupe door pin or the CLK door pin. They are the same. The short door pin however are not screwed on. It's pushed-on and once you push it down there's no way you can get it off. I pushed the one on my driverside door down too far and it sinks in (doesn't sit flat) when I lock the door. I'm still trying to figure out how do I pull it up with out destroying it and spend another dollar...
just what antonio said. I just changed mine not long ago. It's a dollar each. Just go in and ask for the C-coupe door pin or the CLK door pin. They are the same. The short door pin however are not screwed on. It's pushed-on and once you push it down there's no way you can get it off. I pushed the one on my driverside door down too far and it sinks in (doesn't sit flat) when I lock the door. I'm still trying to figure out how do I pull it up with out destroying it and spend another dollar...
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Originally posted by avlis
Yes, they do. The computer will unlock the doors for you if it thinks it was in an accident.
Yes, they do. The computer will unlock the doors for you if it thinks it was in an accident.
Ok, back to doorpins.
Any chrome ones out there beside the Brabus ones?
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Re: Rollover Mode
Originally posted by KOMPRESSORnSC
Yep, and it turns on the dome light, too! I kicked mine into rollover mode one day on a hard right-hander and didn't know what happened, so I stopped at the dealer and asked. They were like "Damn...you musta been cornering hard for that to happen". A few days later I talked to one of the engineers who designed the ESP at BOSCH and he confirmed that the yaw control from ESP is part of the trigger for Rollover Mode (other parts being speed sensor and steering input sensor).
Ok, back to doorpins.
Any chrome ones out there beside the Brabus ones?
Yep, and it turns on the dome light, too! I kicked mine into rollover mode one day on a hard right-hander and didn't know what happened, so I stopped at the dealer and asked. They were like "Damn...you musta been cornering hard for that to happen". A few days later I talked to one of the engineers who designed the ESP at BOSCH and he confirmed that the yaw control from ESP is part of the trigger for Rollover Mode (other parts being speed sensor and steering input sensor).
Ok, back to doorpins.
Any chrome ones out there beside the Brabus ones?
SOC320 SOC320 This is good confirmation to have for all of us considering this.
So everyone should be in good shape based on the previous confirmation from Jim and avlis that if after an bad accident disabling power:
1. The doors can be opened by pulling on the door handle.
and
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So everyone should be in good shape based on the previous confirmation from Jim and avlis that if after an bad accident disabling power:
1. The doors can be opened by pulling on the door handle.
and
/snip/
I should ask my brothers sometime :p
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Sedan Owners beware, the above story is half-true for you.
.... Since this is a c-class discussion, not just coupe, (even started by a sedan owner). BTW I am surprised, didn't you bother to try it in the rear, or is my 2002 sedan that unique?
Front door handles = unlock ALL
Rear door handles = nothing, not even its own door.
Putting pin in the rear would be good if you don't want the rear passengers to ever be able to unlock their own doors. IMHO you are too trusting of the MB accident computer.
.... Since this is a c-class discussion, not just coupe, (even started by a sedan owner). BTW I am surprised, didn't you bother to try it in the rear, or is my 2002 sedan that unique?
Front door handles = unlock ALL
Rear door handles = nothing, not even its own door.
Putting pin in the rear would be good if you don't want the rear passengers to ever be able to unlock their own doors. IMHO you are too trusting of the MB accident computer.
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Originally posted by rrf
Sedan Owners beware, the above story is half-true for you.
Putting pin in the rear would be good if you don't want the rear passengers to ever be able to unlock their own doors. IMHO you are too trusting of the MB accident computer.
Sedan Owners beware, the above story is half-true for you.
Putting pin in the rear would be good if you don't want the rear passengers to ever be able to unlock their own doors. IMHO you are too trusting of the MB accident computer.
With the reliability of the W203 series, who knows when will the electronic demons decide to possess the computer?
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that might be true in the states and canada where because of certain rules we need those door lock pins where you can pull it up manually. In Europe, the door lock pin that comes with the car is the one that sinks into the door panel.
there's one thing I definitely trust MB and BMW is that their safety feature.
there's one thing I definitely trust MB and BMW is that their safety feature.
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In fact, that is excatly why I started down this path. i have 3 kids and they play with pins, handles and buttons. Oldest is 7 and they go down from there -- but they still pull up on the pins, and now that door is unlocked... next up handle on the door and well the rest is ugly.
So thanks for the debate folks. I'm off to buy me some $1 coupe pins.
P
So thanks for the debate folks. I'm off to buy me some $1 coupe pins.
P
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Frank,
This is what I used. I think someone mentioned that there's half a turn when you pushed it in, so you have to twist it a little when you are pulling it out.
This is what I used. I think someone mentioned that there's half a turn when you pushed it in, so you have to twist it a little when you are pulling it out.
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Peet, totally agree
Yes in sedan with young kids, they can actually open the door even with the "kid switch" ON. Pins are a very good idea for your situation. Can't beat the price.
Since he saved you mucho dinero, please buy an extra one for FrankW while you are down there
Yes in sedan with young kids, they can actually open the door even with the "kid switch" ON. Pins are a very good idea for your situation. Can't beat the price.
Since he saved you mucho dinero, please buy an extra one for FrankW while you are down there
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Originally posted by mrkrichie
Frank,
This is what I used. I think someone mentioned that there's half a turn when you pushed it in, so you have to twist it a little when you are pulling it out.
Frank,
This is what I used. I think someone mentioned that there's half a turn when you pushed it in, so you have to twist it a little when you are pulling it out.
from the bottom of the pin looking up...seriously don't know how would I explain it. oh well, I'll give it another try tomorrow.
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'06 Lexus GS300 RWD, '07 Camry SE V6 auto, '91 190E 2.6 auto
Most auto parts stores sell chrome door lock knobs. They may say they are for Ford, but buy cutting a little off the length (you'll never see the cut line) you can get them to fit over the rods in the door. Maybe $1/each. I used black Ford knobs in my C240. For $90, those Brabus knobs better come with a BJ or something
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The trick to installing the Coupe pins to the right height:
Unlock doors
Unscrew old pins (throw them in your golf bag for use as tees)
push Coupe pin onto shaft only far enough to see it's secure.
Lock doors
Push pin down until it lays flush, no further
IMO, the black pin surround on the door (regardless of door color) does not go well with any chrome pin. The Coupe pins are about the cheapest thing you can buy for the sedan.
Unlock doors
Unscrew old pins (throw them in your golf bag for use as tees)
push Coupe pin onto shaft only far enough to see it's secure.
Lock doors
Push pin down until it lays flush, no further
IMO, the black pin surround on the door (regardless of door color) does not go well with any chrome pin. The Coupe pins are about the cheapest thing you can buy for the sedan.
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I actually found some generic pins that say fits ford, yada yada yada... and they're actually really nice, cylindrical clean lines, black anodized aluminum. BUT the threaded post they are meant to go on is about 65% of the diameter of what is in the benz so they won't lock in.
Alas, MB-BOB thanks for the tip, I'm off to the stealer on Monday for pins and a potential dipstick - more on that later once i figure it out
Peet
Alas, MB-BOB thanks for the tip, I'm off to the stealer on Monday for pins and a potential dipstick - more on that later once i figure it out
Peet
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BUT the threaded post they are meant to go on is about 65% of the diameter of what is in the benz so they won't lock in.