transmission flush fluid choice
05-13-2011, 09:51 AM
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You can safely mix these products. Miscibility with other approved products is part of the MB approval system.
These products are all fungible.
These products are all fungible.
07-19-2011, 02:38 PM
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I had my fluid changed with Fuchs 4134 at 100k miles. Used 4 quarts. I'm at 115 now and am thinking of having it done again because it's so cheap at my indy mechanic ($50 labor) and the Shell fluid is reasonable. If I had it changed say 2x in the next 5,000 miles would that be as good as a single flush? Or do I just need to have that done at once?
07-19-2011, 03:41 PM
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LILBENZ,
a complete drain and fill say ~ 3-4 times would replace all the old fluid with new one(Dont just adds 4 quarts or 5 quarts) Complete drain/measure what came out and replace the same qty. So yea go ahead and do this. But then look to do the complete drop pan-replace filter at 150-175k miles......You need that old filter and gasket out to keep everything sane in there.......
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a complete drain and fill say ~ 3-4 times would replace all the old fluid with new one(Dont just adds 4 quarts or 5 quarts) Complete drain/measure what came out and replace the same qty. So yea go ahead and do this. But then look to do the complete drop pan-replace filter at 150-175k miles......You need that old filter and gasket out to keep everything sane in there.......
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07-19-2011, 05:14 PM
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I had my fluid changed with Fuchs 4134 at 100k miles. Used 4 quarts. I'm at 115 now and am thinking of having it done again because it's so cheap at my indy mechanic ($50 labor) and the Shell fluid is reasonable. If I had it changed say 2x in the next 5,000 miles would that be as good as a single flush? Or do I just need to have that done at once?
The fluid + filter change is 80% of the work.
After that you only need to
1. pull out the hose from the radiator
2. drain into a container (turning the car on forces the fluid out) (I used a 3 liter container when it was full I turned the car off)
3. replace what you take out
4. Repeat until you've gone though 12 liters.
07-19-2011, 07:02 PM
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I had my fluid changed with Fuchs 4134 at 100k miles. Used 4 quarts. I'm at 115 now and am thinking of having it done again because it's so cheap at my indy mechanic ($50 labor) and the Shell fluid is reasonable. If I had it changed say 2x in the next 5,000 miles would that be as good as a single flush? Or do I just need to have that done at once?
07-19-2011, 09:38 PM
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hey zero, i have done that method on my other car's, can you post a picture of which hose of the 2 did you pull, the one going from the engine to the radiator or the one coming from the radiator to the engine......you know what I mean............
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07-20-2011, 09:33 AM
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Glyn - Yep, transmission fluid wasn't that bad.. fluid/filter/gasket/electrohydraulic bushing replaced all at 100k. Went ahead and bought another bushing.. will have that checked at next change probably ~120k.
07-20-2011, 03:03 PM
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http://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/ry...#ProdReviewTab
It was like $70 shipped ground. I ordered 14quarts on Thursday and they were at my house on Monday but they did ship from the east coast.
And like others have said ignore the Pennzoil part is comes in a shell bottle and box
It was like $70 shipped ground. I ordered 14quarts on Thursday and they were at my house on Monday but they did ship from the east coast.
And like others have said ignore the Pennzoil part is comes in a shell bottle and box
07-20-2011, 05:21 PM
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Great minds...I ordered mine on Monday from Ryder fleet. 12 quarts for 59.07 including shipping. That's under $5 a quart! I expect to be getting it in time to do the flush & fill this weekend.
12 PNZ 5080660 Auto Transmission Fluid Shell 134 for Sprinter
In Stock 51.12
================================================== =========================
Order Subtotal 51.12
Promotional Discounts 0.00
Shipping Charges 7.95
Estimated Taxes 0.0
Order Total 59.07
12 PNZ 5080660 Auto Transmission Fluid Shell 134 for Sprinter
In Stock 51.12
================================================== =========================
Order Subtotal 51.12
Promotional Discounts 0.00
Shipping Charges 7.95
Estimated Taxes 0.0
Order Total 59.07
07-20-2011, 05:27 PM
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The only bad thing I can say about Ryder is that they don't email you a tracking number. The day I was going to ask them about what was going on with my order it was waiting for me after work.
03-08-2012, 02:57 PM
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Funny how people are reluctant to do the full flush.
As pointed out the hard part is being under the car.
The rest is a piece of cake.
As pointed out the hard part is being under the car.
The rest is a piece of cake.
It's very easy to do a flush.
The fluid + filter change is 80% of the work.
After that you only need to
1. pull out the hose from the radiator
2. drain into a container (turning the car on forces the fluid out) (I used a 3 liter container when it was full I turned the car off)
3. replace what you take out
4. Repeat until you've gone though 12 liters.
The fluid + filter change is 80% of the work.
After that you only need to
1. pull out the hose from the radiator
2. drain into a container (turning the car on forces the fluid out) (I used a 3 liter container when it was full I turned the car off)
3. replace what you take out
4. Repeat until you've gone though 12 liters.
03-08-2012, 04:21 PM
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Called mb . atf 134 is approved but theres only 5 quarts in the tranny pan , and 4 more quarts in the torque converter . I then preceeded to ask if i could drain the torque converter myself . Mb tech said i would have to seperate the engine from the tranny . **** . Is there a DIY for a full tranny service flush , filter , gasket change ?
03-08-2012, 06:55 PM
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Yeah there is a very good DIY floating around here. And the best way to flush is from the cooler lines it is all explained in the DIY
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03-08-2012, 06:56 PM
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03-08-2012, 07:08 PM
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Called mb . atf 134 is approved but theres only 5 quarts in the tranny pan , and 4 more quarts in the torque converter . I then preceeded to ask if i could drain the torque converter myself . Mb tech said i would have to seperate the engine from the tranny . **** . Is there a DIY for a full tranny service flush , filter , gasket change ?
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...0flush1-1-.pdf
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...0flush2-1-.pdf
03-08-2012, 10:34 PM
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Okay im pretty sure ive got that pdf laying around somewhere . With the collar lines will i be able to drain the torque comverter also ?
03-09-2012, 07:21 PM
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BTW - why are you using pentofrost & not an approved coolant??
Last update: 03/04/2012
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Agip Antifreeze Extra D ENI S.p.A. - Refining & Marketing Division, ROM/ITALY
Agip ANTIFREEZE PLUS ENI S.p.A. - Refining & Marketing Division, ROM/ITALY
Anticongelante GHD Premium Lubricantes de América, S.A. de C.V., SANTA CATARINA/MEXICO
Anticongelante LHD Premium Lubricantes de América, S.A. de C.V., SANTA CATARINA/MEXICO
Anticongelante Voltro® Comercial Roshfrans, S.A. de C.V., MÈXICO, D.F./MEXICO
Antifreeze RL-Plus Raloy Lubricantes, S.A. de C.V., Santiago Tianguistenco/MEXICO
ARAL Antifreeze Extra Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
Avia Antifreeze APN Avia Mineralöl-AG, München/Deutschland
Castrol Antifreeze NF Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Radicool NF Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Concentrate Coolant (G48) China Changchun Delian Chemical Co. Ltd., CHANGCHUN/P. R. of CHINA
Concentrate Coolant G48 Changchun Delian Chemical Co. Ltd., CHANGCHUN/P. R. of CHINA
COOLANT G48 CONCENTRATE Bucher AG Langenthal, LANGENTHAL/Schweiz
Dragon Power Coolant A S-OIL, Seoul/Rep. of KOREA
EuroPeak Coolant/Antifreeze Old World Industries, Inc., Northbrook, IL 60062/USA
EVOX Extra G48 Antifreeze concentrate MOL-LUB Ltd., ALMÀSFÜZITÖ/HUNGARY
Fuchs MAINTAIN FRICOFIN Fuchs Petrolub AG, Mannheim/Deutschland
Genantin Super Clariant GmbH, Frankfurt/Main/Deutschland
Glacelf MDX Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Glidex Extra CHEMIA-BOMAR, SKOROGOSZCZ/POLAND
Glysantin G 05 BASF SE, Ludwigshafen/Deutschland
Glysantin G 48 BASF SE, Ludwigshafen/Deutschland
Glysantin Protect BASF SE, Ludwigshafen/Deutschland
Glysantin Protect Plus BASF SE, Ludwigshafen/Deutschland
INA Antifriz Al Super Maziva-Zagreb d.o.o., ZAGREB/CROATIA
Krafft Refrigerant ACU 2300 Krafft S.L., ANDOAIN (Guipuzcoa)/SPAIN
LUBEX ANTIFREEZE TSM Belgin Madeni Yaglar Tic. Ve San. A.S., Gebze Kocaeli/TURKEY
MB 325.0 Korrosion-/Frostschutzmittel A 000 989 08 25 Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
MB 325.0 Korrosion-/Frostschutzmittel A 000 989 21 25 Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
Mobil GS 333 Extra Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Motorex Antifreeze G05 Bucher AG Langenthal, LANGENTHAL/Schweiz
OMV coolant plus OMV Refining & Marketing GmbH, VIENNA/Österreich
OPET ANTIFREEZE SPECIAL Opet Fuchs Madeni Yag San. ve Tic. A.S., Izmir/TURKEY
PANOLIN ANTI-FROST MT-325 PANOLIN AG, MADETSWIL/Schweiz
PO Özel Antifriz Petrol Ofisi Anonim Sirketi, Istanbul/TURKEY
Power Cool Off-Highway Detroit Diesel Corporation, DETROIT, Michigan 48239-4001/USA
PROCAR Kühlerschutz Extra Hunold Schmierstoffe GmbH, Eching/Deutschland
RAVENOL Alu-Kühlerfrostschutz -exclusiv- Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH, Werther/Deutschland
ROWE Hightec Antifreeze AN ROWE Mineralölwerk GmbH, Bubenheim/Deutschland
VOLTRONIC Coolant AN Voltronic & ACT GmbH, Bad Boll/Deutschland
York 716 Ginouves Georges SAS, TOULON /FRANCE
Zerex G 05 The Valvoline Company, LEXINGTON, KY/USA
Last update: 03/04/2012
PRODUCTNAME PRINCIPAL
Agip Antifreeze Extra D ENI S.p.A. - Refining & Marketing Division, ROM/ITALY
Agip ANTIFREEZE PLUS ENI S.p.A. - Refining & Marketing Division, ROM/ITALY
Anticongelante GHD Premium Lubricantes de América, S.A. de C.V., SANTA CATARINA/MEXICO
Anticongelante LHD Premium Lubricantes de América, S.A. de C.V., SANTA CATARINA/MEXICO
Anticongelante Voltro® Comercial Roshfrans, S.A. de C.V., MÈXICO, D.F./MEXICO
Antifreeze RL-Plus Raloy Lubricantes, S.A. de C.V., Santiago Tianguistenco/MEXICO
ARAL Antifreeze Extra Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
Avia Antifreeze APN Avia Mineralöl-AG, München/Deutschland
Castrol Antifreeze NF Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Radicool NF Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Concentrate Coolant (G48) China Changchun Delian Chemical Co. Ltd., CHANGCHUN/P. R. of CHINA
Concentrate Coolant G48 Changchun Delian Chemical Co. Ltd., CHANGCHUN/P. R. of CHINA
COOLANT G48 CONCENTRATE Bucher AG Langenthal, LANGENTHAL/Schweiz
Dragon Power Coolant A S-OIL, Seoul/Rep. of KOREA
EuroPeak Coolant/Antifreeze Old World Industries, Inc., Northbrook, IL 60062/USA
EVOX Extra G48 Antifreeze concentrate MOL-LUB Ltd., ALMÀSFÜZITÖ/HUNGARY
Fuchs MAINTAIN FRICOFIN Fuchs Petrolub AG, Mannheim/Deutschland
Genantin Super Clariant GmbH, Frankfurt/Main/Deutschland
Glacelf MDX Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Glidex Extra CHEMIA-BOMAR, SKOROGOSZCZ/POLAND
Glysantin G 05 BASF SE, Ludwigshafen/Deutschland
Glysantin G 48 BASF SE, Ludwigshafen/Deutschland
Glysantin Protect BASF SE, Ludwigshafen/Deutschland
Glysantin Protect Plus BASF SE, Ludwigshafen/Deutschland
INA Antifriz Al Super Maziva-Zagreb d.o.o., ZAGREB/CROATIA
Krafft Refrigerant ACU 2300 Krafft S.L., ANDOAIN (Guipuzcoa)/SPAIN
LUBEX ANTIFREEZE TSM Belgin Madeni Yaglar Tic. Ve San. A.S., Gebze Kocaeli/TURKEY
MB 325.0 Korrosion-/Frostschutzmittel A 000 989 08 25 Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
MB 325.0 Korrosion-/Frostschutzmittel A 000 989 21 25 Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
Mobil GS 333 Extra Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Motorex Antifreeze G05 Bucher AG Langenthal, LANGENTHAL/Schweiz
OMV coolant plus OMV Refining & Marketing GmbH, VIENNA/Österreich
OPET ANTIFREEZE SPECIAL Opet Fuchs Madeni Yag San. ve Tic. A.S., Izmir/TURKEY
PANOLIN ANTI-FROST MT-325 PANOLIN AG, MADETSWIL/Schweiz
PO Özel Antifriz Petrol Ofisi Anonim Sirketi, Istanbul/TURKEY
Power Cool Off-Highway Detroit Diesel Corporation, DETROIT, Michigan 48239-4001/USA
PROCAR Kühlerschutz Extra Hunold Schmierstoffe GmbH, Eching/Deutschland
RAVENOL Alu-Kühlerfrostschutz -exclusiv- Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH, Werther/Deutschland
ROWE Hightec Antifreeze AN ROWE Mineralölwerk GmbH, Bubenheim/Deutschland
VOLTRONIC Coolant AN Voltronic & ACT GmbH, Bad Boll/Deutschland
York 716 Ginouves Georges SAS, TOULON /FRANCE
Zerex G 05 The Valvoline Company, LEXINGTON, KY/USA
03-09-2012, 08:41 PM
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Those guys are high!!! Seperate the engine from the tranny?
LOL??!!!
Fuking nuts!
Yes, it can be easily done.
I find there is usually only 4 quarts in the pan, and 5 still in the system.
Read this thread, and you will know all there is to know.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...n-related.html
Whats a collar line?
You pump the fluid out from the trans cooling hose at the top of the radiator vs. from the connection at the bottom of the car (as shown in the mercedes docs) which require some special fittings and it's not the way to go unless you have a lift.
All is explained.
You'll need 10-14 quarts of fluid, a filter, gasket, copper washer for drain plug, and
replace the orings while you're at it. A plastic cement mixing pan from home depot is big enough to accommodate the whole pan, and you'll need some plastic hose and a hose clamp, and some
empty plastic gallon jugs.
Mercedes calls it a Pilot bushing, ie the plastic piece with the orings.
A torque wrench is also handy, since the torque specs for the pan bolts is pretty light.
You'll also need the oring used on the radiator to cooling hose connection.
LOL??!!!
Fuking nuts!
Yes, it can be easily done.
I find there is usually only 4 quarts in the pan, and 5 still in the system.
Read this thread, and you will know all there is to know.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...n-related.html
Whats a collar line?
You pump the fluid out from the trans cooling hose at the top of the radiator vs. from the connection at the bottom of the car (as shown in the mercedes docs) which require some special fittings and it's not the way to go unless you have a lift.
All is explained.
You'll need 10-14 quarts of fluid, a filter, gasket, copper washer for drain plug, and
replace the orings while you're at it. A plastic cement mixing pan from home depot is big enough to accommodate the whole pan, and you'll need some plastic hose and a hose clamp, and some
empty plastic gallon jugs.
Mercedes calls it a Pilot bushing, ie the plastic piece with the orings.
A torque wrench is also handy, since the torque specs for the pan bolts is pretty light.
You'll also need the oring used on the radiator to cooling hose connection.
Called mb . atf 134 is approved but theres only 5 quarts in the tranny pan , and 4 more quarts in the torque converter . I then preceeded to ask if i could drain the torque converter myself . Mb tech said i would have to seperate the engine from the tranny . **** . Is there a DIY for a full tranny service flush , filter , gasket change ?
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