OM646 C220 CDI 2003 engine sound and some photos??
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OM646 C220 CDI 2003 engine sound and some photos??
I am about of buying this C220 CDI 2003 with OM646 engine with 2680000km
I have recorded the engine and attached some photos let me know if it is worth paying 6500euros for it?
Please be patient and listen (MP3) to the sound of the engine, there is a "phiissss" sound at the end of the clip that is kindda getting me worried, is it coming from turbine or it is normal?
If you cannot hear the MP3 file for some reason let me know i will PM you, because i like the car and if it isnt something bad with that engine sound i will buy it on monday.
Please give me an answer because i have put it on hold til Monday!
Best regards,
I have recorded the engine and attached some photos let me know if it is worth paying 6500euros for it?
Please be patient and listen (MP3) to the sound of the engine, there is a "phiissss" sound at the end of the clip that is kindda getting me worried, is it coming from turbine or it is normal?
If you cannot hear the MP3 file for some reason let me know i will PM you, because i like the car and if it isnt something bad with that engine sound i will buy it on monday.
Please give me an answer because i have put it on hold til Monday!
Best regards,
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W204 C220CDI 2011
Sounds ok but it cannot be worth that much.
It is pre-facelift (rust issues) with fabric seats, oh and I think you have an extra zero in the mileage (I hope !)
You must drive it hard and use kickdown to check that there are no turbo issues.
rgds
It is pre-facelift (rust issues) with fabric seats, oh and I think you have an extra zero in the mileage (I hope !)
You must drive it hard and use kickdown to check that there are no turbo issues.
rgds
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I've had CDI mercs all my life and it sounds ok. There are million small things wrong with those 2001-2004 cars however so try to get the price down atleast 500e-1500e.
Without knowing the repair history, I could bet atleast these are broken/going wrong:
-Heater booster for CDI engines (for winters, no idea of your country do you need it)
-Inlet manifold flaps, leaking manifold
-Check main thermostat + small thermostat (does it warm up to 90c at all?)
-Check when injectors have been replaced, they are longlasting but it sucks to pay around 500e / piece to replace
-Engine mounts + transmission mount
-Endless misery with the AC stepper motors/links
alecmascot: Maybe the price sounds high for you, but the same cars can cost much more in some other countries. Pre-facelifted W203's here with similar milage are nearly 8k. And 99% of these have fabric seats even in Germany...
For me, the UK/USA/GER cars are very cheap, but I need to pay taxes if I import them (thanks for nothing EU)
Without knowing the repair history, I could bet atleast these are broken/going wrong:
-Heater booster for CDI engines (for winters, no idea of your country do you need it)
-Inlet manifold flaps, leaking manifold
-Check main thermostat + small thermostat (does it warm up to 90c at all?)
-Check when injectors have been replaced, they are longlasting but it sucks to pay around 500e / piece to replace
-Engine mounts + transmission mount
-Endless misery with the AC stepper motors/links
alecmascot: Maybe the price sounds high for you, but the same cars can cost much more in some other countries. Pre-facelifted W203's here with similar milage are nearly 8k. And 99% of these have fabric seats even in Germany...
For me, the UK/USA/GER cars are very cheap, but I need to pay taxes if I import them (thanks for nothing EU)
Last edited by cvx; Aug 6, 2016 at 05:19 AM.
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You're quite right, it is difficult to value across national boundaries.
I guess we are lucky here in that older cars seem to be relatively cheap.
My late 2004 facelift C180K with 66K miles with fabric trim is worth about £2.2K.
I guess we are lucky here in that older cars seem to be relatively cheap.
My late 2004 facelift C180K with 66K miles with fabric trim is worth about £2.2K.
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Alemascot true i have added another 0, unfortunately theprice is high even for here im in Kosova but it is hard to come by a good c220cdi mercedes for a good price. There are planty c270 2001-2004 but im not sure about c270?!
CVX according to the owner and a local mechanic the benz is alright for the year it has. But that phissss sound by the end of the video gets me worried. I dont know if you mangwd to hear it. Other than that it looks ok for 13year old. I dont know if this chassie is galvinazed or not production year 08/2003
I came a cross of another one today 2006 c200 SportEditon with 180.000k for 7600euros. I heard thst c200 are as mot reliable as 220. The owner has added a chip of 30ps morebl but i cannot decided which one i should go for
CVX according to the owner and a local mechanic the benz is alright for the year it has. But that phissss sound by the end of the video gets me worried. I dont know if you mangwd to hear it. Other than that it looks ok for 13year old. I dont know if this chassie is galvinazed or not production year 08/2003
I came a cross of another one today 2006 c200 SportEditon with 180.000k for 7600euros. I heard thst c200 are as mot reliable as 220. The owner has added a chip of 30ps morebl but i cannot decided which one i should go for
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I listened to your recording again.
The ZZZZ sound as the engine revs fall is probably the alternator over-run clutch.
Mine was seized solid when I bought the car and it made nasty mechanical noises when the engine revs slowed suddenly. About £40 for the part and 1/2 labour.
Reading the forums the C270 5 cylinder engine is one of the best. No timing chain or balancer-shaft issues.
rgds
The ZZZZ sound as the engine revs fall is probably the alternator over-run clutch.
Mine was seized solid when I bought the car and it made nasty mechanical noises when the engine revs slowed suddenly. About £40 for the part and 1/2 labour.
Reading the forums the C270 5 cylinder engine is one of the best. No timing chain or balancer-shaft issues.
rgds
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I listened to your recording again.
The ZZZZ sound as the engine revs fall is probably the alternator over-run clutch.
Mine was seized solid when I bought the car and it made nasty mechanical noises when the engine revs slowed suddenly. About £40 for the part and 1/2 labour.
Reading the forums the C270 5 cylinder engine is one of the best. No timing chain or balancer-shaft issues.
rgds
The ZZZZ sound as the engine revs fall is probably the alternator over-run clutch.
Mine was seized solid when I bought the car and it made nasty mechanical noises when the engine revs slowed suddenly. About £40 for the part and 1/2 labour.
Reading the forums the C270 5 cylinder engine is one of the best. No timing chain or balancer-shaft issues.
rgds
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It's just what I pickup reading the forums.
If I could have bought a post-facelift (2004.5) C270 I would have, but ended up with the C180K. The C270 was discontinued in early 2004.
If I could have bought a post-facelift (2004.5) C270 I would have, but ended up with the C180K. The C270 was discontinued in early 2004.
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Maybe a small leak after the turbo? Not to worry much about, I guess.
And cvx is right:
-Heater booster with Pcode showing on my car
-Inlet manifold flaps - removed them already (i highly advice checking after buying a used car).
-Check main thermostat - changed it recently
-Check when injectors have been replaced - just repaired a leaking one
-Engine mounts + transmission mount - about to change them
Cheers
And cvx is right:
-Heater booster with Pcode showing on my car
-Inlet manifold flaps - removed them already (i highly advice checking after buying a used car).
-Check main thermostat - changed it recently
-Check when injectors have been replaced - just repaired a leaking one
-Engine mounts + transmission mount - about to change them
Cheers
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W203 220 cdi
Maybe a small leak after the turbo? Not to worry much about, I guess.
And cvx is right:
-Heater booster with Pcode showing on my car
-Inlet manifold flaps - removed them already (i highly advice checking after buying a used car).
-Check main thermostat - changed it recently
-Check when injectors have been replaced - just repaired a leaking one
-Engine mounts + transmission mount - about to change them
Cheers
And cvx is right:
-Heater booster with Pcode showing on my car
-Inlet manifold flaps - removed them already (i highly advice checking after buying a used car).
-Check main thermostat - changed it recently
-Check when injectors have been replaced - just repaired a leaking one
-Engine mounts + transmission mount - about to change them
Cheers
Thanks guys
